Janet, I mailed you a check for $14.00 on September 1, 1998 to subscribe to the Kunkel Newsletter. To date I have not received a newsletter in the mail. Please advice to let me know the status of my subscription. Sincerely, David Lee Kunkel New updated Kunkel Family Web Page with family tree and photos: http://www.casarubarentals.com/Kunkel/

Janet, is it safe to assume that James Kunkle's book has his family line included? I didn't recognize anything in the "snapshot" you gave us. Jim's family and my husband's converge way back. I am hoping to add some stoppers to the holes we have back at the beginning of the Alexander Johnson Kunkle family history. Happy hunting, [email protected] ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Someone posted lengthy material from the James Kunkel Book and I received it in this morning's E-mail. When attempting to move it into my Kunkel folder, the message completely disappeared. Would it be too much of an imposition to request that someone repost that message? Sorry to use this method to try to recover the message, but it looked to me as if the message contained a lot of material on very early Kunkels in Germany and a number of generations following, including immigrants. It looked too valuable to lose. Would someone kindly resend that message? Thank you. Nelson R. Sulouff

Janet -- What is the cost of James Kunkle's book? When will it be available? -----Marilyn Bridge Brown, 627 Polk 412, Mena, Arkansas 71953 -----e-mail: [email protected] -----researching: BRIDGE, HARRINGTON, ETTER, FLETCHER, KUNKEL -----editor/publisher: Fletcher Family Research Bulletin -- http://www.cswnet.com/~fletcher/ -----president and editor: Polk County Genealogical Society

Just wanted to thank you Dick for sending me your family info, and letting you & everyone know it will start to be printed up in the next Spindle! Janet At 08:36 PM 11/08/1998 EST, you wrote: >Hi, All! > Here are my lines of Kunkels back as far as I have them, in this country >and in Flörsbach, bei Kempfenbrunn, Landkreis Geldhausen, Regierungsbezirk >Wiesbaden(Nassau), Statt Hesse, Germany. >1st Gen. 16191-2321. Dick D. Heller, Jr. born May 2, 1929 Decatur, Adams Co., >IN.

Great, Janet Believe you already have my check for Jim's book, sent when you first notified of publication and taking orders. Will try to wait patiently Jo Wilkes

I would like to apologize for stirring everyone up. I should have said Milton Twp as Joe Konkle wrote. I had no idea I would create such a stir. And all of you that think the KUNKLE, KONKLE, KONKEL, KONKLIN, or KUNKLIN ancestors are not related, better check again, or dig a little further back into history. KUNKLE and KONKLE ARE definitely related. That has been proven by MANY people. Thank you all for responding and THANK YOU Joe for defining what I was trying to ask for. Tracy KONKLE Miller

Dick, I should have written in Milton Township, not Milton,IN. Not being from Indiana, I was not aware there was a town named Milton. I was referring to a cemetery further south in Jefferson/Switzerland county border. I think you should check back further in your history. KUNKLE was my branches original family spelling. So far I have never run into any ancestor spelled KONKEL, but if I look hard enough I am sure I will. The KUNKLE brothers came from PA about 4 generations ago and spread themselves through out Indiana. I wouldn't be so quick to think there is NO connect. And the cemetery I was looking for was spelled. KONKLE, KONKEL. Sorry if I misspelled it. I have found the the Indiana churches are not always correct in their records. I found several ancestors in very nicely kept grave that the church denied having in their grave yard. No one bothered to look in the cemetery, they went by books they could or could not find and by memory. Tracy KONKLE Miller Kasilof, Alaska -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Konkel--Kunkel cemeteries >The Konkel cemetery in Milton, Wayne Co., IN and the Kunkel Cemetery near >Monmouth, Adams Co., 80 miles north of Milton, are two very different >cemeteries. My relatives are buried in the Kunkel cemetery, and they have >spelled their name Kunkle, but NEVER Konkel. There is no apparent relation to >the different families at the different church locations. >Dick D. Heller, Jr. >formerly of Adams Co., IN >now in sunny Mission, TX >today's our coldest day--not even 70 degrees! > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >ADMINISTRIVIA: To unsubscribe from single message mode, send a message to [email protected], with the word "unsubscribe" in the message and nothing else. >To unsubscribe from digest mode, send a message to [email protected], with the same message. > > > > > > >

Rich and Kay, Did you determine from James Kunkle whether you were related to him? If you are, you are also related to my husband. His family is from the Armstrong County area of Pennsylvania. The family sent our Kunkle family history to James Kunkle when he sent us a request several years ago. Best wishes, [email protected] --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Rich & Kay Livermore" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Konkel--Kunkel cemeteries Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:02:08 -0800 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Adding my two cents to this. A number of years ago I contacted James Kunkel and sent him my 'Gunkel' information. He was kind enough to put me in contact with some Gunkel cousins. Anyhow, James told me that as far as he knew Gunkel & Kunkel were variations of the same surname. I was skeptical. Several years later I found the place in Germany where my Gunkel family was from and ordered the church records through the FHL. Well the name went from Gunkel to Gunckel to...you guessed it... Kunkel / Kunckel. I have also found it as Gunkle here in America. Don't ignore a name just because it isn't spelled exactly the same as you spell it -- county clerks and census takers do strange things with German surnames! Kay Livermore -----Original Message----- From: Mary A. Kunkle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Konkel--Kunkel cemeteries >Hi, Fellow Texan, >Dick, my husband's family spells their surname Kunkle and for many years >thought there was no relationship to Kunkel. However, a document was >found where an ancestor gave his two sons some property and each signed >their name at the bottom. One signed his name Kunkle and the other, >Kunkel. > >There is evidence that Kunkle originated from the German Gunkel and >somewhere among the Kunkle family history, I noticed it spelled with an >"o". > >Sometimes these little surprises pop up. I guess what I'm trying to say >is don't close your mind to the possibilities of a different spelling. My >husband's family sure was surprised at their discovery. > >Happy Hunting, >Mary K > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected] > > > > > > ==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== See our archives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/KUNKEL-L/ --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Would appreciate any information on Michael KUNKEL, b1784, York County, PA, wife Anna Catherine Sence, had a son, Michael KUNKEL, b.9/21/1816 York Co., PA, d.5/7/1886 Wells County, IN. Mark Mann [email protected] or [email protected]

Hi, All! Here are my lines of Kunkels back as far as I have them, in this country and in Flörsbach, bei Kempfenbrunn, Landkreis Geldhausen, Regierungsbezirk Wiesbaden(Nassau), Statt Hesse, Germany. 1st Gen. 16191-2321. Dick D. Heller, Jr. born May 2, 1929 Decatur, Adams Co., IN. 2nd Gen. 16191-232. Dick D. Heller, born Sept. 22, 1902 Decatur, Adams Co., IN. 16191-23. Martha_Alice_Peterson, "Alle", born October 7, 1872 in Root Twp., Adams Co., IN; married November 29, 1899 to John H. Heller. 3rd gen. 16191-2. Fannie Catherine Kunkel, born June 3, 1849 in Root Twp., Adams Co., married September 25th 1868(C207 gives 27th, but may be return date) at the Concord English Lutheran Church, Root Twp., to Robert Smith Peterson, son of John Wesley and Hannah Smith Peterson. 4tn Gen. 16191. Samuel Daugherty Kunkel (Michael Sr., ) Farmed 80 acres in Root Township, Adams Co., IN. Born 25 Aug 1820, in York Co., PA. Died, I May 1915, in Adams Co., IN (Snow's History, p378). Occupation: Farmer. Michael Kunkel, born 12 Feb 1784, York Co., PA; died, Jackson Twp., Crawford Co., OH, 1850 before 7 August 1850. Married, 1 Elizabeth Meyer (2) Catherine Sentz Davis. He had three children by his first wife, the names of two of them unknown, and nine by his second wife. 5th Gen. 1619. Johann Heinrich Kunkel, in high German, or Johan Hynurich Kunchel as he spelled it in low German. He was born February 15, 1751 in Flörsbach, bei Kempfenbrunn, Landkreis Gelnhausen, Regierungsbezirk Wiesbaden (Nassau) Statt Hesse, Germany as it is known today. It was in the Kingdom of Hesse in the 1700's. The small, old community is about 30 miles due east of Frankfurt, 21 miles east by north of Aschaffenberg, between Frankfurt am Main and Würzburg, and close to the Bavarian state line, just to the east. 6th Gen. 161. Johannes Martin Kunkel B 8/15/1700. D 11/15/1771, age 71 m (1)Magdalene Lindenberg, (B.abt. 1700 7th Gen. 16. Hans2 Nicolaus Kunkel (B 1677 D 5/14/1723. age 46 ) m (1700) Elizabeth Steigerwald (B 1681, D. 3/20/1732, age 51 )dau.of Eberhard Steigerwald, Flörsbach, Ger. 8th Gen. 1. Hans1 Jacob Kunkel b. 1620? m. Elizabeth Ickus in Flörsbach, Germany

Mary A. Kunkle wrote: > > Hi, Fellow Texan, > Dick, my husband's family spells their surname Kunkle and for many years > thought there was no relationship to Kunkel. However, a document was > found where an ancestor gave his two sons some property and each signed > their name at the bottom. One signed his name Kunkle and the other, > Kunkel. //////////////////////////////////////////////// I have a similar 1841 court document signed in Port Royal, Juniata Co. PA wherein the father appears to sign his name John C. Kunkle and his son appears to sign the same document John C. Kunkel, Jr. Precision in spelling names was not as important in those days as it is now, and variant spellings within families and within clans is not at all uncommon. A fact not well known is that English law permitted a person to change their name legally without recourse to court action, and the new name became established by "custom and usage." English law applied in the Colonies and many English practices, including those for names, continued to be legal in the United States for decades after the end of the Revolution in 1783. For example, my 4th great-grandfather purchased a farm in Juniata Co. in 1802 for "pounds sterling," and at the same time he changed his surname from ZULAUF to SULOUFF simply by "custom and usage." It was his daughter, Mary Zulauf>Sulouff, who wed John C. Kunkle and who was the mother of John C. Kunkel, Jr. Nelson R. Sulouff

In a message dated 11/8/98 1:12:25 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << And all of you that think the KUNKLE, KONKLE, KONKEL, KONKLIN, or KUNKLIN ancestors are not related, better check again, or dig a little further back into history. >> Add another one to the list. Anyone know anything about KONKOL? Shirley Patoka Allen

Adding my two cents to this. A number of years ago I contacted James Kunkel and sent him my 'Gunkel' information. He was kind enough to put me in contact with some Gunkel cousins. Anyhow, James told me that as far as he knew Gunkel & Kunkel were variations of the same surname. I was skeptical. Several years later I found the place in Germany where my Gunkel family was from and ordered the church records through the FHL. Well the name went from Gunkel to Gunckel to...you guessed it... Kunkel / Kunckel. I have also found it as Gunkle here in America. Don't ignore a name just because it isn't spelled exactly the same as you spell it -- county clerks and census takers do strange things with German surnames! Kay Livermore -----Original Message----- From: Mary A. Kunkle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Konkel--Kunkel cemeteries >Hi, Fellow Texan, >Dick, my husband's family spells their surname Kunkle and for many years >thought there was no relationship to Kunkel. However, a document was >found where an ancestor gave his two sons some property and each signed >their name at the bottom. One signed his name Kunkle and the other, >Kunkel. > >There is evidence that Kunkle originated from the German Gunkel and >somewhere among the Kunkle family history, I noticed it spelled with an >"o". > >Sometimes these little surprises pop up. I guess what I'm trying to say >is don't close your mind to the possibilities of a different spelling. My >husband's family sure was surprised at their discovery. > >Happy Hunting, >Mary K > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >To send a message to everyone, send it directly to: [email protected] > > > > > >

Janet, do you know how many copies will be available? Do we need to let you know now if we want a copy? Where do we send the money? Much thanks to James Kunkle for all his hard work. Mary (Brown) Kunkle ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, Fellow Texan, Dick, my husband's family spells their surname Kunkle and for many years thought there was no relationship to Kunkel. However, a document was found where an ancestor gave his two sons some property and each signed their name at the bottom. One signed his name Kunkle and the other, Kunkel. There is evidence that Kunkle originated from the German Gunkel and somewhere among the Kunkle family history, I noticed it spelled with an "o". Sometimes these little surprises pop up. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't close your mind to the possibilities of a different spelling. My husband's family sure was surprised at their discovery. Happy Hunting, Mary K ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Janet Thank you for the information on Jim's book. Kay -----Original Message----- From: Janet Reinhold <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 3:00 PM Subject: Re: James Kunkle book >Well, this is Jim's "snapshot" of the family, as of January this year. >It's been me who's been dragging her feet on it! I have indexed this work, >and it looks to be about 220 pages or so. Covers Jim's work and >compilation of others' work, with family group sheets and supporting data, >including will transcriptions and maps. Cost is $23, and whatever is left >over from the copying costs will go to Jim (who certainly knows how to >spend it on genealogy). > >This is all ready to go to the printers' this weekend...those of you who've >been really patient these past months... >Janet > > > >At 11:19 PM 10/24/1998 -0700, you wrote: >>Would you please post the information about the James Kunkle book to the >>mail list? Guess I missed hearing about the book. >> >>Kay Livermore >>Roseburg, OR >>[email protected] > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >See our archives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/KUNKEL-L/ > > >

Can you provide those of us who aren't up to speed on the Kunkel list with a brief description of what's in the James Kunkel Book. Which of the early families are covered, earliest dates, location, etc. John Kruse

At 08:36 PM 11/6/98 EST, you wrote: >The Konkel cemetery in Milton, Wayne Co., IN and the Kunkel Cemetery near >Monmouth, Adams Co., 80 miles north of Milton, are two very different >cemeteries. My relatives are buried in the Kunkel cemetery, and they have >spelled their name Kunkle, but NEVER Konkel. There is no apparent relation to >the different families at the different church locations. >Dick D. Heller, Jr. >formerly of Adams Co., IN >now in sunny Mission, TX >today's our coldest day--not even 70 degrees! > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >ADMINISTRIVIA: To unsubscribe from single message mode, send a message to [email protected], with the word "unsubscribe" in the message and nothing else. >To unsubscribe from digest mode, send a message to [email protected], with the same message. Milton,Indiana, the location of a cemetery that Tracy Miller was inquiring about is located a mile or so south of Cambridge City on SR-1. This hamlet is located in Washington Twp., Wayne Co., Indiana. I doubt very much that this is the "Milton" that Tracy was refering to. I think she was inquiring about a cemetery in Milton Twp., Jefferson Co., Indiana. This township does have a Dry Fork Road in its southeast corner > > > > > > >

Janet, I don't know if I'm down to receive a copy of the book or not, but I definitely do want one. Let me know how much money to send and where to send it. Thanks, Howard Groff ([email protected])