Hello, and Merry Christmas! Here is a message sent by German-American-L that I thought would be helpful to our own list. Please forgive the repetition if you are also a member of that list. If anyone gets time to look at these and finds anything of interest, do pass it on! Thanks everyone for your patience. Janet >Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:08:20 -0500 >Subject: [GERMAN-AMERICAN-L] Understanding the Franco-Prussian War and Prussia >To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/2878 > >Hi! > >Genealogy in Germany, Austria, Poland, etc. is not just locating >surnames. It is also understanding, to some extent, the history of the >countries, the wars, conflicts, and the numerous border changes >throughout Europe. Without some understanding of the history, it "may" >be difficult, or impossible to find your ancestors. An example; one of >my ancestors listed three different countries on his vital documents. >And the reason is most probably because the borders changed in his >homeland, and he actually did live in all of these countries without >moving an inch. Therefore, as your listowner I will periodically offer >links to various times in history for your browsing pleasure. Below are >sites about the Franco-Prussian War and Prussia. Please enjoy at your >leisure, and possibly save this email for future ref: > >The Causes of and build-up to the Franco-Prussian War: >http://www.hogarth.demon.co.uk/Euro/Germany9.html > >German Unification: a guide to the areas of debate: >http://www.hogarth.demon.co.uk/Euro/Germany4.html > >"Most of us know this as the Franco-Prussian War but it may more >accurately be called the Franco-German War as it was more than just the >Prussians against the French, the other German states weighed in as >well." http://www.hat.com/FPWar.html > >French History 19th Century: >"In 1870, the Franco-Prussian war erupted, Paris fell to the >Germans and France lost the Alsace and Lorraine regions." >http://www.france.com/culture/history/19thcent.html > >The Civil War In France: >"On Tuesday July 19 1870, the Franco-Prussian War erupted -- an event >predicted by Engels in a previous geopolitical news article." >http://www.marx.org/Archive/1864-IWMA/1871-CWF/ > >The Battle of Worth-Frederick III: >http://www.hillsdale.edu/dept/History/courses/469/IndWar/1870-Worth.htm > >Administration of the Prussian Army: >http://www.hillsdale.edu/dept/History/courses/469/IndWar/1872-Prussia.htm > >Images of the Siege and Commune of Paris, 1870-1871: >http://www.library.nwu.edu/spec/siege/index.html > >The Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871) provided the first major test for >the European Red Cross. >http://www.redcross.org/hec/pre1900/fpwardet.html > >Solidarity - Past >http://members.iquest.net/~gschick/zach/c6pa.htm > >Map of German Unification: Germany 1871 >http://members.iquest.net/~gschick/zach/f-pwar1.jpg > >The German Collections at the Library of Congress: >http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/european/nuweb/collgerm.html > >Mary appears to numerous villagers in Pontmain, France, 1871: >http://web.frontier.net/Apparitions/pontmain.html > >A brief history of Poland in the last 200 years: >Includes a map of Central Europe in 1872. >http://members.aol.com/genpoland/polhistory.htm > > >Q1: What and where was Prussia? >Q2: What about the kings in Germany? >Q3: Who were the Prussian kings? >Q4: Where does the name Prussia come from? >Q5: What were the administrative areas of Prussia in 1895? >Q6: Where do I write for a birth certificate for someone born in >Prussia? >Q7: How do I find locations and maps for Prussia? >Q8: When were civil registers introduced? >Q9: Where can I get more information on the Prussian provinces? >Q10: Are there emigration records available for Prussian emigrants? >Q11: Is there a listserv for Prussia? >http://homes.rhein-zeitung.de/~alipskey/goertzprussia.htm > >Prussian Timeline: >http://kanga.pvhs.chico.k12.ca.us/~bsilva/projects/prussia/prustime.html > >Prussia Personalities: >http://kanga.pvhs.chico.k12.ca.us/~bsilva/projects/prussia/pruspers.html > >West Prussia: includes a map >http://www.man.poznan.pl/~bielecki/westpr.htm > >East Prussia: includes a map >http://www.man.poznan.pl/~bielecki/eastpr.htm > >Preussen / Prussia / Kingdom of Prussia / Königreich Preussen: >http://www.genealogy.net/gene/www/preussen/prussia.html > >Nancy Ring Kendrick >Listowner German-American >Kendrick Kreations <[email protected]>

janet still no book

janet still watching for book did you find my check

Hello Mary, and all. Yes, actually the publisher is me so I make that final decision. All Rootswebbers & active members & contributors get the $23 price. This is the book that was $18 before it was published. I prefer to invoice you, since it's easier to keep track of, but will certainly accept a check. Also, it's easier to keep track of the Spindle money if you make it directly out to me. I will try harder to cash these things in a prompter manner. I'm doing the next newsletter now & hope to get that out in a couple weeks (just before Xmas, surely :)...) If there's any trustworthy retired folks out there who don't live too far from CA, won't you consider volunteering to be "Membership Chairman" and keep track of the money and subs? I have been getting into trouble because I forget things, and so people could send you checks, etc., and you could send me what they want. The trouble is, we're not an official association (unless Wallace K. had set that up years ago, I don't know) so I don't know how to go about doing it differently. Comments, suggestions? Do you all think we should set up an association? Thanks for your patience! Oh, and by the way, think twice about hitting the return button on this list, as some things that should go directly to me are being distributed to folks who don't really care about it (and then maybe it reminds folks to bug me, so maybe that's good). Anyway, you have to think about it. Anyone know of a good library in GERMANY, Poland, other Europe, CANADA, Australia, etc. that would reach folks in those countries? I could send a few books to them, too. Janet Reinhold, PO Box 4001, Covina CA 91723-0401

Janet, I'm a descendant of Johannes Jurg Kunkel. How do I get a copy? Joan Syens 117 Randolph Street Randolph, WI 53956

count me in for kunkle book too- will you post info to list tks

Janet, I would like a copy of The Kunkle Book. I am decended from Hans Kunkle. Also please send a copy to the Kokomo, Library Kokomo, Ind Thanks Nancy Where do I send the money for this?

Hi, Janet. I would like to have the book, but would like to know what price I should pay. We have corresponded before - re Family #2 - Gottlieb Kunkel of York Co, PA and his daughter Maria Elisabetha who mar. John Weltner and went to Monongalia Co., WV. Are they included in this book? Joan Ruse [email protected]

Janet, I would like a copy of the book. I descend from John Gunkel (Kunkle) and Catherine Spangler. Please let me know how I might obtain a copy. Thanks for your help. Justin

In a message dated 98-11-28 00:44:27 EST, you write: << The name of the book is officially "The Kunkel-Kunkle Family in America Before 1800," the author James E. Kunkle, and editor Janet Reinhold. Published by Future Packaging, PO Box 4001, Covina CA 91723. (c) 1998 James E Kunkle. Its ISBN is 1-891406-19-1, for comb binding, and 232 pages total. List price is $30.00. Also available in Looseleaf binding, same list price. PLEASE NOTE: Members of the family have a special price of $23 for this book. >> Janet, it sounds as if you are very busy. I would like to order the book, in loose leaf binding. I am a descendent of a Kunkle (Hans from Neuhutten) . Does this qualify for the $23.00 price? Do I send the check to the address of "Future Packaging"? You asked for suggestions of libraries to send the book. I live in south- central Pennsylvania, where the Kunkle name has a long history. May I suggest two in this area: York County Historicial Society, 250 E. Market St, York PA 17404 (They have previous work by James E. Kunkle) Pennsylvania State Library, Genealogy Room, Forum Bldg, Harrisburg, PA 17120 Thank you for all your hard work on the Kunkle family history. It has been invaluable to me. Angela Smith 2425 Logan St Harrisburg, Pa

Hooray, Janet. This is the info I have been waiting for. If we order directly from the publisher will we get the family price for $23.00? I would like to see a copy go to the Dallas Public Library Genealogy Section. It is one of the largest in the Southwest. What info do you need to send a copy there? The supervisor is Lloyd Bockstruck who also writes a column in the Dallas Morning News every Saturday on genealogy and reviews books he receives. I also heard him speak one time. He is very interesting. Thanks much to you and James Kunkle. Happy Hunting. Mary (Brown) Kunkle ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Have just got done with the third batch of this book being sent out to some very patient folks who've been waiting for it for months. Here is the rest of the Table of Contents: *Family File No 1, Hans Kunkel, Glassmaker, Catholic, b 1636 Neuhutten, Spessart, d 7 Apr 1735, Breitenborn GER, m Margarethe N., p 25 *Family File No 2, Gottlieb Kunckel Jr. (son of Gottlieb Kunckel Sr. and Margaretha __) m Christina Barbara __; ch all b York co PA: Maria Magdalena b 1738; John Balthasar b 1742; Maria Catharine b 1744; Gottlieb b 1746; Maria Elizabeth b 1749, p 36 *Family File No 3, Balthasser Gunkel b 1713, son of Joh Christoffel and Anna Maria MOLLER; wife, __; son John Gunkel b abt 1736 Lancaster Co PA, p 60 *Family File No 4, Johannes (Hans) Kunkel, b abt 1709 Floersbach, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia (son of Joh Sebastian and Anna Catharina SAMER Kunkel) m Anna Magdalena KAISER, 9 ch, p 67 *Family File No 5, Johann (John) Gunckel Sr. b abt 1772 Prussia, will 1796 Berks Co PA, m Anna Margaret LORENTZ, 10 ch., p 74 * Family File No 6, Joh Georg Kunkel/Kunckel, bapt. 1702 Floersbach, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia, d abt 1764-67 Berks Co PA, m (2) Anna Margaretha SCHUSTER, dau of Eberhard Schuster, 6 ch., p 95 * Family File no 7, Johannes Gunkel (John Conkle) b abt 1730 Wickenrode, Hessen, GER, and his assumed brother, Henry Conkle, b abt 1732. Both men resided in Washington Co PA, and Henry moved on to Ohio Co VA, now Marshall Co WV., p 123 * Family File no 8, Joh Adam Kunckel b 1721 Hesse GER, d 1804 Stillwater, Sussex Co NJ, m Anna Catharina ENGLEHART, and their 4 children, p 139 * Family File no 9, Peter Konkle b abt 1760's, res Bucks Co PA, d 1814 Lycoming Co PA, m Catherine __; 8 children, p 159 * Family File no 10, Joh Jacob Gunckel/Kunkle b abt 1769, d 1848 Greensburg, Westmoreland Co PA, m Elizabeth __; 10 ch., p 161 * Family File no 11, John Kunckle b abt 1750 Unter Schonmattenwag, Hesse GER, d abt 1843 Bedford Co PA, m (1) Susanna__, 9 ch; m (2) Sharlot, 1 ch., p 166 * Family File No 12, Joh Hynurich (Henry) Kunkel b 1751 Floersbach, Prussia, d 1827 York Co PA, m Elizabeth Christina KLEINFELTER, 8 ch., p 180 * Family File No 13, John Kunkel b 1776 York co PA, m Margaret __; 3 ch, p 195 * Family File No 14, George Konkel b 1736, d 1830 possibly Philadelphia PA, m Mary __; 5 ch., p 196 * Family File no 15, Johannes (John) Gunckel/Kunkel d 1782 Lancaster Co PA, m Christina __; 11 ch., p 197 * Family File no 16, Henry Kunkle/Konkle/Conkle b abt 1765 Heslint GER, d 1859 Henry co GA, m Catherine AULL, 10 ch., p 202 * Family File no 17, Jacob Konkle/Conkle Sr. b abt 1790 PA, d bet 1850-60 Allen Co OH, m Elizabeth (Betsey) WEAVER, 5 ch, p 211 * Family File no 18, Joh Michael Kunkel b bef 1745 Floersbach, d bef Apr 1788 York Co PA, m Justina Maria (ADAMS?), 4 ch., p 213 * York County PA Churches for which records of baptism, marriage, and funerals exist for the 1700's, p 219 * Index, p 220 The name of the book is officially "The Kunkel-Kunkle Family in America Before 1800," the author James E. Kunkle, and editor Janet Reinhold. Published by Future Packaging, PO Box 4001, Covina CA 91723. (c) 1998 James E Kunkle. Its ISBN is 1-891406-19-1, for comb binding, and 232 pages total. List price is $30.00. Also available in Looseleaf binding, same list price. PLEASE NOTE: Members of the family have a special price of $23 for this book. Some members are getting a review copy of the book because they have been contributors to it. If you have not gotten a copy, and think you should have, either by having sent in money or by contributing a great deal to it, please let me know next week. Many copies have been sent already, but some haven't, since I was binding them myself and that, too, is a slow process. Thankfully, this "Thanksgiving" weekend I have done some catching up.... When you all do get your copies, you are granted permission to answer queries and can quote the book all you like. I would do it, but am having a difficult enough time downloading email properly (in a timely fashion) lately. I'm hoping we can get some good discussions going! I am sending this book to H. Goebel in GER, and to several libraries in the US. If you have a particular library you feel should have it, please let me know. Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving holiday! Janet

In a message dated 11/26/98 2:21:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Yes I did get your check, so do you need all 3 so far? (Fall's not out yet) >> Yes, Janet - It would be nice to receive all three. Thanks. Richard

If anyone has any info on the parents of Lydia Ann Kunkle, William J. Kunkle b 1848 (where?) and Elizabeth Mitzell b 1844 who lived in Peachbotton Twp, York Co, PA in the 1880 census please contact Joe Pulle at: "[email protected]" as he is looking for help. Bob Troup [email protected]

If anyone has any info on Lina KUNKLE who m William Young, from either Wilkes- Barre, PA or Westmoreland Co, PA, please contact Candice Mert at: "[email protected]" as she is requesting more info on them. Bob Troup [email protected]

Yes I did get your check, so do you need all 3 so far? (Fall's not out yet) J. At 05:35 PM 11/18/1998 EST, you wrote: >Hello Janet, I mailed you a check for $14.00 on September 10, 1998 (check # >5373) to subscribe to your wonderful 1998 Newsletter. To date I have not >received any newsletters in the mail. Sorry I was late, its time again for >(1999) renewal, just inquiring as the check has not been cashed as of this >date. Please advice to let me know the status of my subscription. Thanks. >Richard Jackson. > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >See our archives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/KUNKEL-L/ > > > >

Hello Janet, I mailed you a check for $14.00 on September 10, 1998 (check # 5373) to subscribe to your wonderful 1998 Newsletter. To date I have not received any newsletters in the mail. Sorry I was late, its time again for (1999) renewal, just inquiring as the check has not been cashed as of this date. Please advice to let me know the status of my subscription. Thanks. Richard Jackson.

BOTH CONKLE and KUNKEL? The following obit is of interest to me mainly because a "Leman McCarrell" married Margaret Jeannette "Jenny" CONKLE (b 25 July 1878, d 23 Jan 1914, is buried at Mt Prospect Cemetery in Hickory, Washington Co PA), who was a sister to my great grandfather, William Conkle (also spelled Concle), and to David Shannon's grandmother, Rachel Francina ("Ina") Conkle--our Conkles also from Washington Co PA. I have no idea if Leman was related to this man.... If you read closely, you'll also see a reference to a "President Judge George Kunkel" of Harrisburg. I also do not see a likely connection between him and my Conkles. However, I'm always fascinated by seeming coincidences like this, and always on the lookout for that "missing link" to our Conkle/Kunkel etc families. Besides, of course, DNA testing. Jim Kunkle looks so much like my Uncle Bill Conkle, well, I just know we're all connected, even if you have to go back to Germany (or do a DNA genealogy!)... The following was submitted to the Washington County, PA listserv: >Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:08:25 -0800 >From: "Charles T. DeFrance" <[email protected]> >Subject: Judge S. J. M. McCARRELL - Obit >To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3889 > >Obituary of Judge S. J. M. McCarrell From Unknown Newspaper - 1920 > >JUDGE M'CARRELL DEAD AT HARRISBURG HOME; NATIVE OF CLAYSVILLE > >Harrisburg, June 25, Judge S.J.M. McCarrell, of the Dauphin county >courts, died at his home here early today, aged 77 years, after a long >illness. This is the second vacancy caused by death on the Dauphin >county bench in the past month, President Judge George Kunkel having >preceded his colleague of many years by less than three weeks. > >Judge McCarrell was born in Buffalo township, Washington county, Pa., >October 19, 1842. His father was Rev. Dr. Alexander McCarrell, mother >Martha McClain McCarrell. His father was a Presbyterian minister and >pastor of the Presbyterian church at Claysville, Pa., for 35 years, >until death called him from his pulpit in April, 1881. He had three >sons, who followed in his footsteps, also became Presbyterian ministers, >the Rev. Dr. William A. McCarrell, who died April, 1906; the Rev. Dr. >James J. McCarrell, who died December, 1903, and the Rev. Thomas C. >McCarrell, now pastor of the Presbyterian church at Mechanicsburg, Pa. >The family ancestors were Scotch-Irish, on fathers' side, from Ayrshire, >Scotland; on mother's side from Island of Mull, Scotland. Both families >went to the north of Ireland and then came to America. >Greatgrandfathers on both sides were in the War of the Revolution. > >Judge McCarrell received his early teachings in the common schools and >was prepared for college by his father. He graduated from Washington >(now Washington and Jefferson) college at Washington, PA in 1864. His >first occupation in life was on a farm then as a clerk in a Claysville >store, and later he assisted the principal in the Linsley Institute, >Wheeling, W. Va. > >Mr. McCarrell was admitted to the bar in 1867, and practiced his >profession till October 7, 1907, when he became judge of the Twelfth >judicial district of Pennsylvania. He was district attorney of Dauphin >county, Pa., from 1881 to 1887; was senator of the Fifteenth district, >Pa., 1892 to 1900; president pro-tem of the senate, 1895 to 1897; United >States attorney for middle district of Pennsylvania March 29, 1901, to >October 5, 1907; judge of the Twelfth judicial district, Pennsylvania, >October 7, 1907, with commission expiring first Monday in January, 1918. > >He was a member of the Union League, Philadelphia; of the Scranton club, >of Scranton, Pa.; the Harrisburg club, of Harrisburg, Pa.; also of >Harrisburg lodge No. 68, I.O.O.F., and of Robert Burns lodge F.& A.M. > >Judge McCarrell was married December 21, 1871, to Rebecca A. Wallace >(daughter of Robert Wallace, of Claysville, Pa.), and had two children, >Wallace Alezander, born November 26, 1876, died November 16, 1880, and >Samuel J., Jr., born December 7, 1881, died January 29, 1901. Judge >McCarrell was a ruling elder of Market Square Presbyterian church, of >Harrisburg, since March, 1877; was superintendent of the Market Square >Presbyterian Sunday schools since May, 1878, and was teacher of men's >Bible class since November, 1888, and was also a fife member of >Harrisburg Y.M.C.A.

David, Sorry, I will check on this and send them. Janet At 10:33 PM 11/12/1998 EST, you wrote: >Janet, I mailed you a check for $14.00 on September 1, 1998 to subscribe to >the Kunkel Newsletter. To date I have not received a newsletter in the mail. >Please advice to let me know the status of my subscription. Sincerely, David >Lee Kunkel > >New updated Kunkel Family Web Page with family tree and photos: > >http://www.casarubarentals.com/Kunkel/ > > >==== KUNKEL Mailing List ==== >See our archives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/KUNKEL-L/ > > > >

I have been getting messages from the list and thought I was subscribed. But when I tried to send a message I did not see mine come through. I unsubscribe and was told I was not a member--strange--. I have now resubscribed and am sending my message again. I hope all is straightened out and that I am not bothering people. thanks all, Leslie -----Original Message----- From: Michael Bishop <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 9:13 PM Subject: Fw: Weilman Lawrence Kunkel from Waterbury, Ct. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Bishop <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 8:04 PM >Subject: Fw: Weilman Lawrence Kunkel from Waterbury, Ct. > > >>This was sent on the 12th. I have not seen it on the kunkel list, >nor >>have I heard from anyone. did it get through? would someone please >>let me know. I ask because I have been on another list where I was >>receiving the mail, but none of my posts were going through and I had >>to re sub to it. I am wondering if I am having the same situation >>here. Thanks LB >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Michael Bishop <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:00 PM >>Subject: Weilman Lawrence Kunkel from Waterbury, Ct. >> >> >>>Does anyone recognize this family? I would love to share. Leslie >>> >>>Weilman Lawrence Kunkel >>>Generation No. 1 >>> >>> 1. Weilman Lawrence1 Kunkel was born August 16, 1864 in Neuhutten, >>>Germany, and died September 01, 1946 in Waterbury, Conn. Riverside >>>Cem.. He married (1) Unknown. He married (2) Emma Schaffrath >>>September 08, 1888, daughter of Wilhelm Schaffrath and Maria >>>Schneider. >>>: >>>Immigrated to USA in 1878, became a naturalized citizen, served >>>apprenticeship as a tailor and worked as a tailor for over 40 years >>at >>>Jones Morgan Co, Waterbury Conn. On some legal papers his name is >>>written Kunkel. He signed these same papers Kunkle. On 1990 census >>>he spells it Kunkel. >>> >>>He was called, Lorenz or Lory, Must have lived in Naugatuck Ct. for >>a >>>short time because his first child Frank (also from a first >marriage) >>>was born there. >>>1900 federal Cencus for Waterbury conn. finds family living on >Cherry >>>Street. His occupation is listed as Tailor. >>> >>>Child of Weilman Kunkel and Unknown is: >>> 2 i. Frank2 Kunkel. >>> >>>Children of Weilman Kunkel and Emma Schaffrath are: >>> 3 i. Frank2 Kunkel, born December 17, 1887 in Union City, Conn; >died >>>March 14, 1941. >>>+ 4 ii. William Kunkel, born July 05, 1889 in Union City, Ct.; died >>>March 08, 1982 in Ridgewood Cem, Desplaines, Ill. >>> 5 iii. Paul Kunkel, born August 28, 1890; died August 17, 1972 in >>>Calvary Cem, Waterbury, CT.. He married Bertha Gervais Abt. 1915. >>>+ 6 iv. Susan Emma Kunkel, born September 17, 1892; >>>+ 7 v. Max Kunkel, born February 11, 1894; died June 27, 1934 in >>>Riverside Cem. Waterbury, CT.. >>>+ 8 vi. Carl Frederick Kunkel, born February 27, 1897 in Waterbury, >>>Conn.; died June 01, 1926 in Waterbury, Conn.. >>>+ 9 vii. Lawrence Kunkel, born May 05, 1899 in Waterbury, Conn.; >died >>>November 18, 1976 in Middlebury, CT.. >>> 10 viii. Marie Kunkel, --Living >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >