Yes. Your logic is good. Grover Cleveland was the first thing that I thought of, too. Especially since he was elected in 1884. But when I saw the quotations, it spoke to me of being a nickname. When you can't find males born in 1881 and 1885 in the WWI database, it may mean that they did not survive. It is fairly complete and many fewer misspelled names. Have you looked for graves in Wyandotte? What area of Wyandotte were they living? My sense, from the census, was that it was the city. Good luck, again, Patricia On 5/19/07, Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > Thanks for all the tips, Pat. They're good ones, and I'll get on it. I > have a feeling people died, too. But Bert in CA? I hadn't noticed him > and > I'll check into it. About the Cleveland - I hadn't noticed the quotation > marks, but my guess was that the name was really Grover Cleveland - very > popular at the time. But you never know! Joanne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Patricia, I see what you mean about the commas. I've never seen that before. The REALLY interesting thing is that the Bert Ensininger you found in the WWI registrations - and it was written as Ensminger on the actual card - turns out to have been a movie director whose real name was Robert. He acted in and directed some b-grade movies in the teens and 20s. I can't find a bio of him nor any reference after about 1923 (there are other Robert Ensmingers, but not him). So maybe he died out in CA. I notice the draft card says his wife lived in Washington state and then in 1920 he said he was divorced. Again, thanks for your help. Two sets of eyes are ALWAYS better than one! Joanne