Born and raised in Wyandotte County Kansas. Resided in the Bethel-Pomeroy area before moving to Piper in 1968. Married another Wyandotte Countian. His family migrated to Wyandotte and Leavenworth Counties in the 1850's. Surnames include but are not limited to: Duffy, Treff, Millsap, Moody, Gray, McMahan, Witt, Litchen, Storm, Einhellig. Anything about western Wyandotte County and Piper that I can get my hands on. Willing to share and do any lookups in the data base I have. Happy New Year Happy Hunting and THANKS to John for his continued efforts and contributions. I read the entiries like it was the daily newspaper. Thanks Diana Millsap Treff -----Original Message----- From: kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:06 AM To: KS-Wyandotte Subject: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Hello, You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to know a little something about us members, and maybe even help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this note with the following: Your location - city and state .......... or just state How you are connected to Wyandotte County What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List =================================================== Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with information. This will be more probably if you include dates and names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS in the 1950s" would be acceptable. Thank you for your consideration. John Wyandotte County List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lara: Not sure if we corresponded before or not. I do know a little about your family. Primarily the Brown's as Wash Brown and my husband's grandparents were very good friends. They all attened Piper High School and graduated in the 1920's. I believe there was a nancy and a Susie Brown as well. Yes the house still stands. I have been told it is listed with Kansas as a Historical landmark. I wish the current owners would do more to restore its beauty. In the 1970's I worked for a very short time as a secretary for Blake, Uhlig & Funk in Kansas City, Ks. My girlfriend got me on and I truly wasn't ready for the job. However, they were fun to work for and at that time Wash Brown still had his office at the Brotherhood building in KCK as well. As I research I will send to you any and all I find. Iwill be away from genealogy for a couple of weeks, but when I get back to it I will check my PIPEr and WYCO files. I know that I kept some tidbits that may be of interest to you. Diane Treff -----Original Message----- From: kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ca07@finneycounty.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:24 AM To: kswyando@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Hello! I'm currently living in Garden City, Finney County, Kansas -- our most notorious claim to fame are the Clutter murders (Capote's In Cold Blood), and some beef packing plants. My family since my maternal great great great grandfather, Washington Brown, has lived in Wyandotte County. He homesteaded in Piper after the civil war and the home is still standing. Both maternal and paternal sides lived in Wyandotte County until my parents moved to Johnson County in 1960, but my father, John Blake, Jr., and grandfathers, John Blake and Wash Brown, practiced law in Wyandotte County. My dad graduated from Argentine High School and my mom (Denise Brown) and maternal aunt graduated from Wyandotte. I'm hoping to get tidbits about the Blakes, Hankins (paternal grandmother), Tolers (maternal grandmother), and Browns. I don't know much about the Blakes or the Hankinses. It's been wonderful connecting with a few people on the list and getting information about the old homestead and hearing from people who knew my family. It's also great to read some of the news articles that you put on, John. Thank you so much for that! Have a wonderful day!! Lara (Blake) Bors "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> Sent by: kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com 01/06/2009 11:05 AM Please respond to kswyando@rootsweb.com To "KS-Wyandotte" <KSWyando-L@rootsweb.com> cc Subject [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Hello, You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to know a little something about us members, and maybe even help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this note with the following: Your location - city and state .......... or just state How you are connected to Wyandotte County What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List =================================================== Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with information. This will be more probably if you include dates and names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS in the 1950s" would be acceptable. Thank you for your consideration. John Wyandotte County List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello! I'm currently living in Garden City, Finney County, Kansas -- our most notorious claim to fame are the Clutter murders (Capote's In Cold Blood), and some beef packing plants. My family since my maternal great great great grandfather, Washington Brown, has lived in Wyandotte County. He homesteaded in Piper after the civil war and the home is still standing. Both maternal and paternal sides lived in Wyandotte County until my parents moved to Johnson County in 1960, but my father, John Blake, Jr., and grandfathers, John Blake and Wash Brown, practiced law in Wyandotte County. My dad graduated from Argentine High School and my mom (Denise Brown) and maternal aunt graduated from Wyandotte. I'm hoping to get tidbits about the Blakes, Hankins (paternal grandmother), Tolers (maternal grandmother), and Browns. I don't know much about the Blakes or the Hankinses. It's been wonderful connecting with a few people on the list and getting information about the old homestead and hearing from people who knew my family. It's also great to read some of the news articles that you put on, John. Thank you so much for that! Have a wonderful day!! Lara (Blake) Bors "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> Sent by: kswyando-bounces@rootsweb.com 01/06/2009 11:05 AM Please respond to kswyando@rootsweb.com To "KS-Wyandotte" <KSWyando-L@rootsweb.com> cc Subject [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Hello, You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to know a little something about us members, and maybe even help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this note with the following: Your location - city and state .......... or just state How you are connected to Wyandotte County What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List =================================================== Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with information. This will be more probably if you include dates and names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS in the 1950s" would be acceptable. Thank you for your consideration. John Wyandotte County List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes she is still living here in the KC area along with three sisters.  One additional lives in CA.  The other three Carothers siblings have died.  She has helped me out considerably with my family research and has many old letters of her fathers that relate to Wyandotte County and the KC area in general written in the early 1900's.     Responding to John's questions:   I live in Leawood, KS.  My Wyandotte County connections go back to 1862 when my gg grandparents, John B. Herbold and Mary Louise Vaughn were married there.  Then the Herbold line married into the Carothers line and were there up until just recently.  I am still searching for Mary Vaughn's parents names by the way if anyone can help.   I enjoy reading all postings of this site and hope connect with more people with similar family connections or family acquaintances such as Marian.   Jeff Day Leawood, KS --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> wrote: From: Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List To: jeffrey-day@sbcglobal.net, kswyando@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:57 PM Indeed I do remember her -- more specifically, the name, since our class was quite large for its time. Would she also have attended Northwest Junior High? My yearbook along with other personal items were burned (deliberately) in a bon fire of personal things from my father's house when he passed away, so I can't look up her photo. I was living in Virginia at the time and made it home for the funeral but alas, not for the burning, which I would not have tolerated. (I happen to be a genealogist, and these bon fire stories are rampant within the national community of family historians.) Have been trying for years to beg, borrow or buy a copy of my class yearbook but none have been available for me. So many memories, so much time lost. Is your mother still living? Our class size has dwindled dramatically and our smallish 60th reunion was held in 2006 at Wyandotte County Lake, along with the decision to make it our last. I'm so glad I was able to attend that one, and still correspond with a few classmates still living. Regards, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Day" <jeffrey-day@sbcglobal.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Marian: You mentioned you graduated from Wyandotte High in '46. I believe that may be the year my mother did also. Do you remember a Leta Jean Carothers? Jeff --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> wrote: From: Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List To: kswyando@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:50 PM Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's terrific mail list. Thank you, John! Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high school years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good teacher, I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a familiar ring. My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in VA, moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and St. Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my gr-gr grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to visit cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming across this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. Marian Sarantha - WY P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main street in that town. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in > Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. > > My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal > lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, > Wyandotte > County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte > County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, who > was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my > grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in > Wyandotte > County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. > > My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to > Wyandotte > County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of > John > Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth > Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in > Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami > County, > KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned > by > a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. > > Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), > were born in Wyandotte County. > > I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my ultimate > goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, > back > to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing > together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social > events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the > postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things > very > things. > > ~kate > > ------------- > >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>> >>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>> note with the following: >>> >>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>> >>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>> >>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>> >>> >>> =================================================== >>> >>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>> >>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>> >>> Thank you for your consideration. >>> >>> John >>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all , Here in North Carolina. My connection is through my Great-Grandparents - Harris and Dora Frankel. I am not sure how they ended up there - but I do know they remained for many years. I believe my great grandfather had a store there - but not sure. My Great - Grandmother, Dora died in 1906 of pu tuberculosis and Daniel Brothers Funeral Home took care of it. It lists her address on this certificate as 401 Kansas Ave - I am sure it is known as a different street name - but have not located it yet. *I had hopes when I had the name of the funeral home - however, the records prior to 1951 were lost in the flood of that year. I also have the graduation certificate from my grandmother when she graduated from Whittier Junior High School in 1919 (I Believe also known as 'the Junior High School'). I hope to one day find out more - about my family and their years lived there. Thank you to all - and to John for all you do to make this information sharing possible. Arlene > From: JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> To: KSWyando-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:05:35 -0600> Subject: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List> > Hello, > > You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List.> > As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to > know a little something about us members, and maybe even > help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this > note with the following: > > Your location - city and state .......... or just state > > How you are connected to Wyandotte County> > What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List> > > ===================================================> > Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with > information. This will be more probably if you include dates and > names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather > lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my > grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might > produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be.> > There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, > simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS > in the 1950s" would be acceptable.> > Thank you for your consideration.> > John> Wyandotte County List Administrator> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/

Unfortunately, they did not copy many court records.    And our County Clerk would not give them permission 15 years ago but they are here copying now.  Hope they do all.   Thanks,   Lavonne --- On Mon, 1/5/09, VivianJ8169@aol.com <VivianJ8169@aol.com> wrote: From: VivianJ8169@aol.com <VivianJ8169@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] COPY OLD RECORDS To: kswyando@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:51 AM I remember reading years ago when the Mormon Church started on the east coast microfilming records from county seats. Each state had to give permission and then could buy a copy for their own use for the cost of the microfilm itself. The article stated every state gave permission and purchased a copy for their own records. There was one exception Missouri did not purchase the copy offered. In a message dated 1/4/2009 9:49:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, lavonnew@flash.net writes: In the 1930s during the depression, the government gave money to the states to copy old records. That has preserved history, helped students, authors, genealogist and many others with research. There are court records in the County Court Clerk's Office of each county, of each state, that give the Partitions for Sale which names all members of families and lots more information. Many of us buy rolls of this microfilm and the states will receive dividends of this for years. The 1930s material is being sold and used today. This is a win-win situation for everyone and returns money to government. It will pay it's own way and can begin immediately. Please apply and let the President's Stimulus Package do this. I recently found a paper record (Partition for Sale) of 1832 in Kershaw County, S. C. that I had looked thirty years for. I saw lots of records that named families. Please email the first paragraph of this email to any government official, historical society, genealogy society you can think of plus the genealogy friends in your address book so they can send it on. There are lots of good records out there that are crumbling and need to be preserved. I found some that were in 1790 naming children and division of property. They must not crumble more. Lavonne Sanders Walker, 19603 13th Street, Shawnee, Ok. 74801 Email:lavonnew@flash.net "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My personal connection to Wyandotte County, Kansas, is minimal. I went to a meeting at the University of Kansas in summer 2000, flew into and out of the airport in Kansas City, Missouri, and so drove through or around Kansas City, Kansas. BUT, I'm the "convener" of the Van Scoy-Knapp reunion of descendants of four related couples who lived in Huron County, Ohio, in the first half of the 1800s. (I was born and grew up there.) Abraham VAN SCOY (1788 NY - 1849 OH) and his wife Mary KNAPP (1795 NY - 1883 OH) (my great(3)-grandparents) had 13 children. Their oldest child, Sally Ann (1812 NY - ?) married James DURY (1799 - 1848 OH) in 1832 in Huron County, Ohio. They had 5 children, one of whom was Ceylon Sherman Dury (b 1842 in Ohio, alive in Arkansas in 1930). Ceylon Sherman Dury married in 1861 in Hillsdale County, Michigan, Matilda Jane MERCER (1845-1930). Ceylon Sherman Dury and his wife Matilda Jane Mercer lived in several states, as recorded in the US census. 1870 Fulton County, Ohio 1880 Huron County, Ohio (with his widowed mother) 1900 ? 1910 Kansas City, Wyandotte County, Kansas 1920 Gentry, Benton County, Arkansas 1930 Gentry, Benton County, Arkansas They had four children: Francis A. (1863-1864) Eva Jane (b 1854) m --- CAMPBELL 1 child, born in Ohio Walter b abt 1887 in Kansas City 1910, 1920 wife Mamie children Walter b abt 1908 and Elizabeth b abt 1915 Ida Mae (b 1866) m Will DIGMAN, lived in Huron County, Ohio Artie Izora (b 1871) m Edward A. BUTCHER 3 children, all born in Kansas Mildred b abt 1900 Fay b abt 1903 Edward b abt 1914 in Kansas City, Wyandotte County, Ohio in 1910, 1920, 1930 My interests are: (1) learning more about the lives of these distant cousins (2) making contact with living descendants of Ceylon Sherman and Matilda Jane (Mercer) Dury Frances Van Scoy, FrancesVanScoy@aol.com Van Scoy-Knapp reunion, vsk03@aol.com ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Marian, the following link has what was published in the book plus more: http://www.kckps.org/DISTHISTORY/dist-history/bios/klamm.htm I think we did purchase our books at the same time. I recall talking about the book on the Mailing List and I remember rushing down to the book store in KCK. I saved the receipt ........ bought it on August 28, 2002. We've been on the List for a long time!! I assume you know about the Missouri death certificate site. (If not, let me know.) I see there are KLAMMs who died in Jackson County, maybe related? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Sarantha" <marians@vcn.com> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > John: > > I dived to recover the book to read about Klamm Park but found it's > barricaded by a stack of genealogy files in racks fronting a wall-to-wall > bookcase, so that will have to wait. I'll google instead, and thanks for > recommending it. > > We must have purchased our books at the same time. At least it's the same > story--few books left for purchase--and now that I think of it, it was > probably on your mail list that I learned of the book. I remember > scrambling to telephone the book's author, and maybe also bought the last > three available. We have enjoyed it so much! > > Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > > >> Marian, it's on page 278 of the book. It's a fantastic book. Too bad >> it's >> out of print. There were only a few left when I bought mine several >> years >> ago. I spoke with the author and he did not think there was enough of a >> demand to justify another printing of the book. >> >> If you Google : Klamm Park, you'll get tons of hits! >> >> John >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marian Sarantha" <marians@vcn.com> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM >> >> >>> Oh, John, thanks for jogging my memory; I own that book and had >>> forgotten >>> about it. Will look up the section on Klamm Park this minute. Also >>> bought >>> copies for each of my two sisters, one now living in Virginia, the other >>> in >>> California. They both treasure the book, and so do I. It's a >>> statistical >>> marvel! >>> >>> Gratefully, >>> >>> Marian Sarantha >>> WY >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> >>> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:55 PM >>> Subject: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM >>> >>> >>>> Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" >>>> by >>>> Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who >>>> married >>>> Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 >>>> children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George >>>> and >>>> Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements >>>> in >>>> the area. >>>> >>>> Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came >>>> about. >>>> >>>> Are you aware of the above? >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> >>>> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>>> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living >>>>> in >>>>> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >>>>> >>>>> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and >>>>> paternal >>>>> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >>>>> Wyandotte >>>>> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to >>>>> Wyandotte >>>>> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >>>>> who >>>>> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >>>>> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >>>>> Wyandotte >>>>> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >>>>> >>>>> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >>>>> Wyandotte >>>>> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son >>>>> of >>>>> John >>>>> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie >>>>> Elizabeth >>>>> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >>>>> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >>>>> County, >>>>> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land >>>>> owned >>>>> by >>>>> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >>>>> >>>>> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm >>>>> (1935), >>>>> were born in Wyandotte County. >>>>> >>>>> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >>>>> ultimate >>>>> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael >>>>> McNamara, >>>>> back >>>>> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >>>>> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >>>>> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >>>>> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >>>>> very >>>>> things. >>>>> >>>>> ~kate >>>>>

My mom and dad graduated from Washington HS in KC...as did some of my aunts and uncles. I think they...or at least Dad...attended Vance Elementary. I believe Grandma Alice attended Everett School. I've been to a handful of reunions and anniversary parties at Wyandotte County Lake. I have photos of some of those too. In fact, I have all sorts of old Wyandotte County photos or photos of family living in Wyandotte County. :) I need to get my husband to put my website live so I can post a bunch of them. ~k ---------------- > Indeed I do remember her -- more specifically, the name, since our class > was > quite large for its time. Would she also have attended Northwest Junior > High? My yearbook along with other personal items were burned > (deliberately) in a bon fire of personal things from my father's house > when > he passed away, so I can't look up her photo. I was living in Virginia at > the time and made it home for the funeral but alas, not for the burning, > which I would not have tolerated. (I happen to be a genealogist, and > these > bon fire stories are rampant within the national community of family > historians.) Have been trying for years to beg, borrow or buy a copy of > my > class yearbook but none have been available for me. So many memories, so > much time lost. > > Is your mother still living? Our class size has dwindled dramatically and > our smallish 60th reunion was held in 2006 at Wyandotte County Lake, along > with the decision to make it our last. I'm so glad I was able to attend > that one, and still correspond with a few classmates still living. > > Regards, > > Marian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Day" <jeffrey-day@sbcglobal.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > > Marian: > > You mentioned you graduated from Wyandotte High in '46. I believe that may > be the year my mother did also. Do you remember a Leta Jean Carothers? > > Jeff > > --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> wrote: > > From: Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > To: kswyando@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:50 PM > > Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's > terrific mail list. Thank you, John! > > Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high > school > years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, > and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good > teacher, > I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or > grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a > familiar > ring. > > My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas > George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in > Princeton > Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and > moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I > was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in > VA, > moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and > St. > Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my > gr-gr > grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. > > Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to > visit > > cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the > Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and > varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming > across > this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. > > Marian Sarantha - WY > > P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. > We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main > street > in that town. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > >> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >> >> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >> Wyandotte >> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >> who >> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >> Wyandotte >> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >> >> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >> Wyandotte >> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >> John >> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >> County, >> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned >> by >> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >> >> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), >> were born in Wyandotte County. >> >> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >> ultimate >> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >> back >> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >> very >> things. >> >> ~kate >> >> ------------- >> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>>> >>>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>>> note with the following: >>>> >>>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>>> >>>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>>> >>>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>> =================================================== >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying > "my >>>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the > 1920s" might >>>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>>> >>>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. > However, >>>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas > City, KS >>>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your consideration. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, Yes, I have a copy of the story that appeared in "The Consolidated...History," though not the book. I did some digging a while back and found some discrepencies in the chronology/genealogy written there. I haven't taken the time to document them as of yet. I've been too busy wrestling with the McNamara/Mack clan. ~k ------------------ > Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" > by > Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who married > Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 > children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George and > Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements in > the area. > > Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came about. > > Are you aware of the above? > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > >> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >> >> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >> Wyandotte >> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >> who >> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >> Wyandotte >> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >> >> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >> Wyandotte >> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >> John >> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >> County, >> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned >> by >> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >> >> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), >> were born in Wyandotte County. >> >> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >> ultimate >> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >> back >> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >> very >> things. >> >> ~kate >> >> ------------- >> >>> >>>> Hello, > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John: I dived to recover the book to read about Klamm Park but found it's barricaded by a stack of genealogy files in racks fronting a wall-to-wall bookcase, so that will have to wait. I'll google instead, and thanks for recommending it. We must have purchased our books at the same time. At least it's the same story--few books left for purchase--and now that I think of it, it was probably on your mail list that I learned of the book. I remember scrambling to telephone the book's author, and maybe also bought the last three available. We have enjoyed it so much! Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > Marian, it's on page 278 of the book. It's a fantastic book. Too bad > it's > out of print. There were only a few left when I bought mine several years > ago. I spoke with the author and he did not think there was enough of a > demand to justify another printing of the book. > > If you Google : Klamm Park, you'll get tons of hits! > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marian Sarantha" <marians@vcn.com> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > > >> Oh, John, thanks for jogging my memory; I own that book and had forgotten >> about it. Will look up the section on Klamm Park this minute. Also >> bought >> copies for each of my two sisters, one now living in Virginia, the other >> in >> California. They both treasure the book, and so do I. It's a >> statistical >> marvel! >> >> Gratefully, >> >> Marian Sarantha >> WY >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:55 PM >> Subject: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM >> >> >>> Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" >>> by >>> Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who >>> married >>> Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 >>> children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George >>> and >>> Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements >>> in >>> the area. >>> >>> Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came >>> about. >>> >>> Are you aware of the above? >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> >>> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >>> >>> >>>> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living >>>> in >>>> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >>>> >>>> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >>>> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >>>> Wyandotte >>>> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to >>>> Wyandotte >>>> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >>>> who >>>> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >>>> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >>>> Wyandotte >>>> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >>>> >>>> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >>>> Wyandotte >>>> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >>>> John >>>> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie >>>> Elizabeth >>>> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >>>> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >>>> County, >>>> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land >>>> owned >>>> by >>>> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >>>> >>>> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm >>>> (1935), >>>> were born in Wyandotte County. >>>> >>>> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >>>> ultimate >>>> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >>>> back >>>> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >>>> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >>>> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >>>> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >>>> very >>>> things. >>>> >>>> ~kate >>>> >>>> ------------- >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marian, it's on page 278 of the book. It's a fantastic book. Too bad it's out of print. There were only a few left when I bought mine several years ago. I spoke with the author and he did not think there was enough of a demand to justify another printing of the book. If you Google : Klamm Park, you'll get tons of hits! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Sarantha" <marians@vcn.com> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > Oh, John, thanks for jogging my memory; I own that book and had forgotten > about it. Will look up the section on Klamm Park this minute. Also > bought > copies for each of my two sisters, one now living in Virginia, the other > in > California. They both treasure the book, and so do I. It's a statistical > marvel! > > Gratefully, > > Marian Sarantha > WY > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:55 PM > Subject: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > > >> Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" >> by >> Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who married >> Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 >> children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George >> and >> Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements in >> the area. >> >> Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came about. >> >> Are you aware of the above? >> >> John >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >> >> >>> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >>> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >>> >>> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >>> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >>> Wyandotte >>> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >>> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >>> who >>> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >>> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >>> Wyandotte >>> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >>> >>> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >>> Wyandotte >>> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >>> John >>> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >>> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >>> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >>> County, >>> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land >>> owned >>> by >>> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >>> >>> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm >>> (1935), >>> were born in Wyandotte County. >>> >>> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >>> ultimate >>> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >>> back >>> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >>> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >>> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >>> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >>> very >>> things. >>> >>> ~kate >>> >>> ------------- >>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kate, let me know when you have posted pictures on your website? Thank you, Marian - WY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > My mom and dad graduated from Washington HS in KC...as did some of my > aunts > and uncles. I think they...or at least Dad...attended Vance Elementary. I > believe Grandma Alice attended Everett School. > > I've been to a handful of reunions and anniversary parties at Wyandotte > County Lake. I have photos of some of those too. In fact, I have all sorts > of old Wyandotte County photos or photos of family living in Wyandotte > County. :) I need to get my husband to put my website live so I can post a > bunch of them. > > ~k > > ---------------- > >> Indeed I do remember her -- more specifically, the name, since our class >> was >> quite large for its time. Would she also have attended Northwest Junior >> High? My yearbook along with other personal items were burned >> (deliberately) in a bon fire of personal things from my father's house >> when >> he passed away, so I can't look up her photo. I was living in Virginia >> at >> the time and made it home for the funeral but alas, not for the burning, >> which I would not have tolerated. (I happen to be a genealogist, and >> these >> bon fire stories are rampant within the national community of family >> historians.) Have been trying for years to beg, borrow or buy a copy of >> my >> class yearbook but none have been available for me. So many memories, so >> much time lost. >> >> Is your mother still living? Our class size has dwindled dramatically >> and >> our smallish 60th reunion was held in 2006 at Wyandotte County Lake, >> along >> with the decision to make it our last. I'm so glad I was able to attend >> that one, and still correspond with a few classmates still living. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Day" <jeffrey-day@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >> >> >> Marian: >> >> You mentioned you graduated from Wyandotte High in '46. I believe that >> may >> be the year my mother did also. Do you remember a Leta Jean Carothers? >> >> Jeff >> >> --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> wrote: >> >> From: Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >> To: kswyando@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:50 PM >> >> Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's >> terrific mail list. Thank you, John! >> >> Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high >> school >> years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, >> and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good >> teacher, >> I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or >> grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a >> familiar >> ring. >> >> My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas >> George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in >> Princeton >> Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa >> and >> moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where >> I >> was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in >> VA, >> moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and >> St. >> Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my >> gr-gr >> grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. >> >> Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to >> visit >> >> cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the >> Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and >> varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming >> across >> this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. >> >> Marian Sarantha - WY >> >> P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in >> Holdrege. >> We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main >> street >> in that town. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >> >> >>> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >>> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >>> >>> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >>> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >>> Wyandotte >>> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >>> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >>> who >>> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >>> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >>> Wyandotte >>> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >>> >>> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >>> Wyandotte >>> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >>> John >>> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >>> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >>> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >>> County, >>> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land >>> owned >>> by >>> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >>> >>> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm >>> (1935), >>> were born in Wyandotte County. >>> >>> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >>> ultimate >>> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >>> back >>> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >>> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >>> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >>> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >>> very >>> things. >>> >>> ~kate >>> >>> ------------- >>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>>>> >>>>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>>>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>>>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>>>> note with the following: >>>>> >>>>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>>>> >>>>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>>>> >>>>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =================================================== >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>>>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>>>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>>>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying >> "my >>>>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the >> 1920s" might >>>>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>>>> >>>>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. >> However, >>>>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas >> City, KS >>>>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your consideration. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marian, I think I may have a photograph of Alma Klamm somewhere. I have no idea how she would be related to us, but I'm sure she is. The Richard Klamm she would have raised would NOT have been my father, but I'll ask him if he knew of another in the family. Dad and Mom moved to Holdrege in about 1958ish. Mom died in 1989, but Dad still lives there. The downtown is really drying up, but they just built a huge YMCA, community theater and veteran's hospital on the north side. Holdrege also has a terrific museum. It is my understanding from my cousins, who all still live in the KC area, that Klamm Park is no longer a "safe" place to visit. ~kate ----------------- > Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's > terrific mail list. Thank you, John! > > Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high > school > years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, > and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good > teacher, > I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or > grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a > familiar > ring. > > My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas > George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton > Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and > moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I > was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in > VA, > moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and > St. > Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my > gr-gr > grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. > > Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to > visit > cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the > Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and > varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming > across > this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. > > Marian Sarantha - WY > > P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. > We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main > street > in that town. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > >> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >> >> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >> Wyandotte >> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >> who >> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >> Wyandotte >> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >> >> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >> Wyandotte >> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >> John >> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >> County, >> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned >> by >> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >> >> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), >> were born in Wyandotte County. >> >> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >> ultimate >> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >> back >> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >> very >> things. >> >> ~kate >> >> ------------- >> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>>> >>>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>>> note with the following: >>>> >>>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>>> >>>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>>> >>>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>> =================================================== >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>>> >>>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your consideration. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" by Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who married Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George and Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements in the area. Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came about. Are you aware of the above? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in > Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. > > My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal > lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, > Wyandotte > County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte > County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, who > was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my > grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in > Wyandotte > County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. > > My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to > Wyandotte > County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of > John > Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth > Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in > Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami > County, > KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned > by > a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. > > Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), > were born in Wyandotte County. > > I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my ultimate > goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, > back > to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing > together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social > events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the > postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things > very > things. > > ~kate > > ------------- > >> >>> Hello,

A nicely written history of Klamm Park has been updated on the Public Schools of Wyandotte County, Kansas 1844- 2009 website. Attached links show photographs of the Klamm family.  I spend hundreds of delightful childhood hours playing at Klamm Park with my cousins and friends.  Great memories.  Here is the link... http://www.kckps.org/DISTHISTORY/dist-history/bios/klamm.htm pamela tate   --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Kate & David Clabough <dv121212@charter.net> wrote: From: Kate & David Clabough <dv121212@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List To: kswyando@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:10 PM Marian, I think I may have a photograph of Alma Klamm somewhere. I have no idea how she would be related to us, but I'm sure she is. The Richard Klamm she would have raised would NOT have been my father, but I'll ask him if he knew of another in the family. Dad and Mom moved to Holdrege in about 1958ish. Mom died in 1989, but Dad still lives there. The downtown is really drying up, but they just built a huge YMCA, community theater and veteran's hospital on the north side. Holdrege also has a terrific museum. It is my understanding from my cousins, who all still live in the KC area, that Klamm Park is no longer a "safe" place to visit. ~kate ----------------- > Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's > terrific mail list. Thank you, John! > > Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high > school > years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, > and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good > teacher, > I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or > grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a > familiar > ring. > > My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas > George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton > Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and > moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I > was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in > VA, > moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and > St. > Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my > gr-gr > grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. > > Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to > visit > cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the > Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and > varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming > across > this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. > > Marian Sarantha - WY > > P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. > We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main > street > in that town. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > >> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >> >> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >> Wyandotte >> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >> who >> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >> Wyandotte >> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >> >> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >> Wyandotte >> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >> John >> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >> County, >> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned >> by >> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >> >> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), >> were born in Wyandotte County. >> >> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >> ultimate >> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >> back >> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >> very >> things. >> >> ~kate >> >> ------------- >> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>>> >>>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>>> note with the following: >>>> >>>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>>> >>>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>>> >>>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>> =================================================== >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>>> >>>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your consideration. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, John, thanks for jogging my memory; I own that book and had forgotten about it. Will look up the section on Klamm Park this minute. Also bought copies for each of my two sisters, one now living in Virginia, the other in California. They both treasure the book, and so do I. It's a statistical marvel! Gratefully, Marian Sarantha WY ----- Original Message ----- From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: [Wyandotte County] KLAMM > Kate, in the book "The Consolidated Ethnic History of Wyandotte County" > by > Loren L. Taylor, there is a write up about Christopher KLAMM who married > Maria Katherine BRENNER. They were born in Mannheim Germany and had 10 > children: Peter, Eva, Henry, Martin, Caroline, Charles, Susan, George and > Benjamin. There is information of Christopher's and Maria's movements in > the area. > > Also in the book is info about Peter KLAMM and how Klamm Park came about. > > Are you aware of the above? > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> > To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > > >> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >> >> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >> Wyandotte >> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >> who >> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >> Wyandotte >> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >> >> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >> Wyandotte >> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >> John >> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >> County, >> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned >> by >> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >> >> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), >> were born in Wyandotte County. >> >> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >> ultimate >> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >> back >> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >> very >> things. >> >> ~kate >> >> ------------- >> >>> >>>> Hello, > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Indeed I do remember her -- more specifically, the name, since our class was quite large for its time. Would she also have attended Northwest Junior High? My yearbook along with other personal items were burned (deliberately) in a bon fire of personal things from my father's house when he passed away, so I can't look up her photo. I was living in Virginia at the time and made it home for the funeral but alas, not for the burning, which I would not have tolerated. (I happen to be a genealogist, and these bon fire stories are rampant within the national community of family historians.) Have been trying for years to beg, borrow or buy a copy of my class yearbook but none have been available for me. So many memories, so much time lost. Is your mother still living? Our class size has dwindled dramatically and our smallish 60th reunion was held in 2006 at Wyandotte County Lake, along with the decision to make it our last. I'm so glad I was able to attend that one, and still correspond with a few classmates still living. Regards, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Day" <jeffrey-day@sbcglobal.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List Marian: You mentioned you graduated from Wyandotte High in '46. I believe that may be the year my mother did also. Do you remember a Leta Jean Carothers? Jeff --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> wrote: From: Marian Sarantha <marians@vcn.com> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List To: kswyando@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:50 PM Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's terrific mail list. Thank you, John! Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high school years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good teacher, I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a familiar ring. My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in VA, moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and St. Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my gr-gr grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to visit cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming across this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. Marian Sarantha - WY P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main street in that town. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in > Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. > > My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal > lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, > Wyandotte > County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte > County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, who > was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my > grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in > Wyandotte > County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. > > My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to > Wyandotte > County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of > John > Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth > Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in > Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami > County, > KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned > by > a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. > > Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), > were born in Wyandotte County. > > I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my ultimate > goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, > back > to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing > together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social > events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the > postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things > very > things. > > ~kate > > ------------- > >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>> >>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>> note with the following: >>> >>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>> >>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>> >>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>> >>> >>> =================================================== >>> >>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>> >>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>> >>> Thank you for your consideration. >>> >>> John >>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Kate, I can well believe the warning about Klamm Park. Haven't been back to that scene in well over 50 years. And I never go into the area of KCK where I grew up, which was quite respectable in its heyday. Would love to see a picture of Alma Klamm if you can produce one. She was small in stature, usually wore silk or rayon dresses with tiny prints, and always practical black shoes with stacked heels (ultra conservative, as teachers were expected to be in that era.) She wore pince nez glasses and it always amazed me how people could maintain them on their nose. (My father wore them for a time, too.) I can visualize Miss Klamm so clearly. Good to hear from you, and thanks for writing. Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > Marian, > > I think I may have a photograph of Alma Klamm somewhere. I have no idea > how > she would be related to us, but I'm sure she is. The Richard Klamm she > would > have raised would NOT have been my father, but I'll ask him if he knew of > another in the family. > > Dad and Mom moved to Holdrege in about 1958ish. Mom died in 1989, but Dad > still lives there. The downtown is really drying up, but they just built a > huge YMCA, community theater and veteran's hospital on the north side. > Holdrege also has a terrific museum. > > It is my understanding from my cousins, who all still live in the KC area, > that Klamm Park is no longer a "safe" place to visit. > > ~kate > > ----------------- > > >> Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's >> terrific mail list. Thank you, John! >> >> Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high >> school >> years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, >> and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good >> teacher, >> I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or >> grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a >> familiar >> ring. >> >> My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas >> George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton >> Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa >> and >> moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where >> I >> was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in >> VA, >> moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and >> St. >> Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my >> gr-gr >> grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. >> >> Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to >> visit >> cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the >> Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and >> varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming >> across >> this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. >> >> Marian Sarantha - WY >> >> P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in >> Holdrege. >> We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main >> street >> in that town. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> >> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List >> >> >>> My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in >>> Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. >>> >>> My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal >>> lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, >>> Wyandotte >>> County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte >>> County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, >>> who >>> was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my >>> grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in >>> Wyandotte >>> County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. >>> >>> My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to >>> Wyandotte >>> County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of >>> John >>> Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth >>> Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in >>> Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami >>> County, >>> KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land >>> owned >>> by >>> a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. >>> >>> Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm >>> (1935), >>> were born in Wyandotte County. >>> >>> I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my >>> ultimate >>> goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, >>> back >>> to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing >>> together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social >>> events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the >>> postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things >>> very >>> things. >>> >>> ~kate >>> >>> ------------- >>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>>>> >>>>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>>>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>>>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>>>> note with the following: >>>>> >>>>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>>>> >>>>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>>>> >>>>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =================================================== >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>>>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>>>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>>>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>>>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>>>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>>>> >>>>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>>>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>>>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your consideration. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marian Sarantha nee Stewart here in snowy WY, grateful member of John's terrific mail list. Thank you, John! Kate: I know Klamm Park well. Used to play tennis there during high school years at Wyandotte (graduated '46). Alma Klamm was my 4th grade teacher, and was she ever a stickler for correctness! (Hallmark of a good teacher, I presume.) She was a spinster but believe she was raising a nephew or grandson at the time who might have been Richard? That name has a familiar ring. My Stewart line came to Kansas before statehood, gr-grandfather Thomas George Stewart an official "pioneer" who established a farm in Princeton Twp, Franklin Co. His grandson, my father Walter L., was b. in Ottawa and moved first to Argentine (worked at Sinclair Refinery) then to KCK where I was born. My mother was a Fry from Argentine. That line originated in VA, moving first to KY then into MO, settling for a while around Weston and St. Joseph before moving to a farm in old Wyandott Twp. Henry W. Fry, my gr-gr grandfather, married Frances A. Young from Andrew Co, MO. Since moving from CA to WY 16-17 years ago I've made a real effort to visit cousins and other family members both in Lenexa, KS and in the Ottawa-Princeton area, always researching in court houses, libraries and varous other repositories. I read every line of every posting coming across this mail list, and thoroughly enjoy hearing everyone's stories. Marian Sarantha - WY P. S.: A friend in our town is a retired dentist who grew up in Holdrege. We drove through there once on a trip to KC and recall a lovely main street in that town. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate & David Clabough" <dv121212@charter.net> To: <kswyando@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Wyandotte County] Wyandotte County Mailing List > My (childhood) hometown is Holdrege, Nebraska, but I have been living in > Louisville, Tennessee since 1997. > > My Wyandotte County connection is through both my maternal and paternal > lines. My maternal grandmother, Alice Mack Turner, was born in KC, > Wyandotte > County in 1907 to Henry McNamara (later Mack) who emigrated to Wyandotte > County from County Clare, Ireland in the 1870s, and Ida Mae Ryan Mack, who > was born in either Leavenworth or Wyandotte County. Alice and my > grandfather, Jesse Orville Turner (b. 1906, Columbia, MO) lived in > Wyandotte > County until they retired to the Lake of the Ozarks. > > My paternal line, the Klamms, emigrated from Mannheim, Germany to > Wyandotte > County in the 1860s. My granderfather, George Lewis Klamm (1899) son of > John > Christoper Klamm and Annie Heamann, and my grandmother, Bessie Elizabeth > Storey Klamm (1899) daughter of Robert and Ida Odell Story lived in > Wyandotte County until they retired to a farm near Louisville, Miami > County, > KS. There is a Klamm Park in KC, Wyandotte County created from land owned > by > a great something uncle, Peter Klamm. > > Both of my parents, Richard Klamm (1932) and Beverly Turner Klamm (1935), > were born in Wyandotte County. > > I have gained much already by being a member of this list, but my ultimate > goal is to trace my maternal great great grandfather, Michael McNamara, > back > to a township or parish in County Clare, Ireland. I also like piecing > together the day-to-day lives of my ancestors - jobs, churches, social > events, etc. Just how they lived and what they did. I find many of the > postings by John and others to be a terrific insight into those things > very > things. > > ~kate > > ------------- > >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> You are one of 94 members on the Wyandotte County Mailing List. >>> >>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>> know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>> help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>> note with the following: >>> >>> Your location - city and state .......... or just state >>> >>> How you are connected to Wyandotte County >>> >>> What you hope to gain by being a member of the Mailing List >>> >>> >>> =================================================== >>> >>> Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>> information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>> names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>> lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>> grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Argentine in the 1920s" might >>> produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >>> >>> There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>> simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>> in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >>> >>> Thank you for your consideration. >>> >>> John >>> Wyandotte County List Administrator >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >