I recently visited my home town of Kansas City and did research at libraries (K.C., MO.Public and Mid-Continent in Independence), museums (Jackson Co. Genealogical society in Independence) and Jackson Co. Historical Society (courthouse in Independence), graveyards and etc. I was also in MO. for 3 weeks in April, doing research in Columbia, Jefferson City, Macon, Moberly and Maryville. I found a lot of information on my ancestors in all of these places and had a lot of help from people in all of the places. Now I am at home in Scottsdale, AZ., trying to get the information that I did not have time to get, from here. It is relatively easy to get the marriage records and death records from MO. - and I have a myriad of records to find. Many people in the past, including me, moved back and forth across the state line throughout their life so records are in both states. In Kansas, it is not nearly as easy to get access to the records, it seems to me. Any help that anyone on this list can give, as to where to write for marriage records and obituaries from the Kansas City, KS. papers will be appreciated - addresses and phone #'s. What is the address of the City Hall of Kansas City, KS. please. Someone mentioned that it was easier to get information from there than the courthouse. I went to the courthouse and got a bit of information but they were not very helpful I thought. MO. has the great new death record project and I have gotten so much information from there online, as well as ! in person when I was there - same with the marriage records - easy to get online. I regularly visit Topeka, KS. about twice a year so I do go to the terrific historical library and family research facility there when I can. Any more advice? Judy Bates

Thank you for this suggestion. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Ckbgen@aol.com [mailto:Ckbgen@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:43 PM To: KSWYANDO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KSWYANDO] Trying to locate a marriage certificate I got my grandparents marriage license and certificate from the Kansas City, Kansas City Hall. I tried the courthouse with no luck. So try City Hall. Kay in Michigan ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== KSWYANDO-L Discussion List List Administrator John O'Brien JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I got my grandparents marriage license and certificate from the Kansas City, Kansas City Hall. I tried the courthouse with no luck. So try City Hall. Kay in Michigan

*Below is from KC Star. Since it is so spare, in terms of details, perhaps someone will see if there is another notice in the Kansas City, KS, paper. If not, you will need to call or e-mail the KCK Public library to see if they will do a look-up. If they will not, try the Wyandotte County Museum. If they will not, ask your local library if they can order film for that date for the Kansas City KS newspaper. You should also be able to get some info from the cemetery and funeral home. Good luck, Patricia Kansas City Star, The (MO)* - March 4, 2001 Deceased Name: HARRISON D. BAILEY Harrison D. Bailey, 91, Kansas City, MO, died Saturday, March 3, 2001, at the Indian Creek Nursing Center, Overland Park, KS. Funeral services will be 10 a.m. Wednesday, March 7, at Highland Park Funeral Home; burial in Highland Park Cemetery. Friends may call 6-8 p.m. Tuesday at the funeral home. The family suggests contributions to Compassionate Ministries of the Church of the Nazarene. (Arrangements: Highland Park Funeral Home) *Kansas City Star, The (MO)* Date: March 4, 2001 Edition: METROPOLITAN Page: B4 Record Number: 10100654 Copyright (c) 2001 The Kansas City Star On 19 Jul 2006 14:42:02 -0600, RickyNJ58@msn.com <RickyNJ58@msn.com> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Lookup > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/854 > > Message Board Post: > > Harrison Dale Bailey > July 24, 1909 Langdon, Mo > March 03, 2001 Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., KS > > Wife Francis ? > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The marriage took place on March 12, 1937 in Kansas City. Not in Missouri records so I guess it was in Kansas City, Kan. The couple was Mildred Cregan and Samuel Brodsky. He later changed his name to Samuel Brady. He was a doctor and Mildred was a nurse. I am in hopes that someone might be able to tell me how I could get a copy of license. Thanks, Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/854 Message Board Post: Harrison Dale Bailey July 24, 1909 Langdon, Mo March 03, 2001 Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., KS Wife Francis ?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MATHIS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/853 Message Board Post: Does anyone konw if the Library in Wyandotte has copies of newspapers from 1998? I need an obit for DAVID RAY MATHIS, Oct. 18, 1998, page 259. If someone is going to the library soon, I'd really appreciate a copy of the obit. I tried the newspaper, they don't have an archives online, and I live in S.D. I'd be willing to pay copy & or postage for it. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ZAHL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/852 Message Board Post: On the 1930 census for Wyandotte Co. there are five ZAHL's listed: Cleone 1885, Ethel 1893, Henry 1885, Ethel 1893, und Albert 1875. Does anyone know where they came from and what happened to them? Thanks, Chuck

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Armstrong Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/851 Message Board Post: I am looking for my birthmother. Her name is Blanche Eleanor Armstrong. Back in June of 1957 she gave me up for adoption, she was 26 yrs old at the time. She lived at 2030 West 39th St. Kansas City, Kansas in Wyandotte County. She had me at the U of Ks. Med Center. Please if anyone knows of any info email me at matshop@ruraltel.net Thanks, Rick

Hi Diane, I have been singing to the choir. I should probably be asking you for research advice. : ) My research in Wyandotte was not an incredibly happy experience when I was in the thick of it about three to four years back. The downtown library genealogy room was in disarray because part of it was being lost to a new Bill Gates funded computer center. The Wyandotte County Museum seemed to be undergoing changes in archivist or lack of archivist. You would travel a good distance away from the city and the research room would not be open or you would be allowed in with no librarian and told not to touch most of the stacks and research materials. The last time that I went two years ago, there was a new archivist but I was told that the research room had been reserved for some sort of group meeting. I had just called ahead and then traveled 50 miles to be told that since I had traveled so far, I could use the room for 1/2 hour. There still seemed to be no system and no one to help. I wished that they would have just let me at the stacks to see what was there. It was a useless exercise to visit. Perhaps things have changed with an archivist in place for a couple of years. However, I just checked out the site that this list administrator recommended for online cemetery listings. Of the three cemeteries on line, one with 2 pages of listings works, 1 cemetery has a broken link, and the Woodlawn Cemetery listings - which would be most apt to serve your purposes - have first names with no way that I can see to cross reference with last names. The best news about Wyandotte was that the court house people were quite helpful and open to having genealogists rumaging through records. And even though I wasn't allowed to actually use the original newspaper books that I needed at the Wyandotte County Museum room, they were on film and at the Bonner Spring Library. Those people were great too. Perhaps the Museum archivist will be helpful for you. I hope so. Hope you caught the PBS series on the African American research. Thought it was so interesting. Afraid that my only contact with TN was coming and going from Knoxville. In a relationship with a physicist at Oak Ridge. Take care, Pat On 7/7/06, DianePay@aol.com <DianePay@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat, > Thanks for all your advice. I mostly search in TN, MS, WA, and IL. I have > researched in Lyon Co., KS. Very helpful folks at the genealogical > society. But > Wyandotte I am new too. So was not real sure where to start. > > It is very hard searching African American lines (my husbands). When I > search > mine (white) I can find so much information. With his line I am lucky to > find > anything. > > So when you responded with your helpful advice, I really appreciated it. > > If you ever research in TN let me know. I host the Sumner Co. site. > Diane Payne > Sumner Co. TNGenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Pat, Thanks for all your advice. I mostly search in TN, MS, WA, and IL. I have researched in Lyon Co., KS. Very helpful folks at the genealogical society. But Wyandotte I am new too. So was not real sure where to start. It is very hard searching African American lines (my husbands). When I search mine (white) I can find so much information. With his line I am lucky to find anything. So when you responded with your helpful advice, I really appreciated it. If you ever research in TN let me know. I host the Sumner Co. site. Diane Payne Sumner Co. TNGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner

Carolyn, You can contact Highland Pard Cemetery. They have most of the obits and other information in their files. For just a few dollars they will send you copies of everything they have in their file. Good Luck, Sandra > That is a WOW! > > Wonder if Glenn WITHERSPOON knew when he became chaplain at the prison of > Leavenworth in 1934, > that is where his biological grandfather William DUDREY died when it was > the OLD SOLDIERS HOME IN 1890? > > Dudrey was a Civil War Vet. I have his records from the Leavenworth home, > and info on his burial place there. HE served in Co M, 5th Rgt, Ill Cav > Vol. with his brother in law, Marilla's brother Levi BRANCH. > > Now I wonder if anyone on this list might do a lookup for an obit for: > > Lu Witherspoon > Born ca 1876 Kansas > died between 27 to 30 Dec 1963 in downtown KS City, Wyandotte Co KS > buried Highland park Cem, Kansas City > > > Hugs, > Carolyn > Remember, you have a friend in Oklahoma -- forever sorting out dead > relatives! > Researching BRANCH, SMITH, STEDMAN, in New England; CUSHMAN, EATON, > COOMBS, ALLERTON, DEPRIEST in Plymouth. > > > On Jul 6, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Pat Williams wrote: > > > <GlennWitherspoonKCStarTue02131934B.jpg> > 2/13/1934 KC Star: New Chaplain at Leavenworth - The Rev. Glenn > witherspoon of Sabetha, KS will be the new chaplain at the federal prison > annex, succeeding the Rev. A. Frank Johnson who recently resigned to > accept the pastorate of the First Presbyterian church here. > > ______________________________

You're welcome! Kathleen A. Gregory -----Original Message----- From: Pat Williams [mailto:genealogistgrrl@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:51 AM To: KSWYANDO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KSWYANDO] Library access from home in Kansas Thank you, Kathleen. Your tips have just been invaluable to my research. Pat On 7/7/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > The Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps are plat maps cities. If you have an > address from an old census you can go the SFI map and find the location. > The map collection is for various years. I found my husband's great > grandfather's home from 1900 on the map in Kansas City, MO. I also found > maps for my hometown showing all the old water wells (before city water), > gasoline storage facilities, old businesses, etc. Very interesting. > > Kathleen A. Gregory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Williams [mailto:genealogistgrrl@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:02 AM > To: KSWYANDO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KSWYANDO] Library access from home in Kansas > > Hi Kathleen, > > I have a card for the KCMO library although I don't access much there > besides their postcard collection and books and DVDs. > What are the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? > Pat > > On 7/6/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > > > I have two library cards that allow remote access. One is through the > > Kansas State Library. To get a card you visit your local library and > the > > librarian will sign you up and give you a temporary card. You will then > > receive a library card in the mail. It must be renewed > annually. Through > > it I have access to Heritage Quest. The other one is for the Kansas City > > Public Library www.kclibrary.org This is the Kansas City, MO library and > > you > > can apply for a library card on their website. They have the Sanborn > Fire > > Insurance Maps available for Kansas and Missouri, which can be accessed > > from > > your home computer. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > > List Administrator > > John O'Brien > > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== KSWYANDO-L Discussion List List Administrator John O'Brien JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/849.1 Message Board Post: Diane, All the things you are looking for can be found at the Wyandotte County Museum. They do have some cemetery records on-line. The website is: http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1194.html You may also contact the archivist at jthornton@wycokck.org

Thank you, Kathleen. Your tips have just been invaluable to my research. Pat On 7/7/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > The Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps are plat maps cities. If you have an > address from an old census you can go the SFI map and find the location. > The map collection is for various years. I found my husband's great > grandfather's home from 1900 on the map in Kansas City, MO. I also found > maps for my hometown showing all the old water wells (before city water), > gasoline storage facilities, old businesses, etc. Very interesting. > > Kathleen A. Gregory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Williams [mailto:genealogistgrrl@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:02 AM > To: KSWYANDO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KSWYANDO] Library access from home in Kansas > > Hi Kathleen, > > I have a card for the KCMO library although I don't access much there > besides their postcard collection and books and DVDs. > What are the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? > Pat > > On 7/6/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > > > I have two library cards that allow remote access. One is through the > > Kansas State Library. To get a card you visit your local library and > the > > librarian will sign you up and give you a temporary card. You will then > > receive a library card in the mail. It must be renewed > annually. Through > > it I have access to Heritage Quest. The other one is for the Kansas City > > Public Library www.kclibrary.org This is the Kansas City, MO library and > > you > > can apply for a library card on their website. They have the Sanborn > Fire > > Insurance Maps available for Kansas and Missouri, which can be accessed > > from > > your home computer. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > > List Administrator > > John O'Brien > > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Diane, I have a couple of thoughts on this couple. Since county recorded marriages won't help you, you might ask a research librarian if there were any area newspapers that might have covered a marriage. It seems to me that you need to know exactly where they lived - to identify churches - and if the 1870 census has the ward where Emma lived, there should be ward maps available either through the library or county courthouse that will help you pinpoint her neighborhood. I know that Quindaro, which is at about 27th St in KCK had a large African American population because it was an important stop on the underground railroad. It is supposed to have it's own set of important records for the community. I don't know when KCK city directories began; other KS and IA towns seemed to publish as early as 1860-70. I know that by the turn of the century, there were KCK directories. These listed people every year. You might get a general year of marriage if Lewis turned up in one with Emma because the old directories often listed all the members of a household. Do make sure that you check out what newspapers were publishing for your area of Lyon county. They are my best source of info for the years when counties didn't keep records and the last place that people seek info. The smaller papers are actually best, they tended more toward local gossip. Most are copied onto microfilm and you can request, through your library or family center, that they be sent and then look through the rolls yourself. Lastly, I am probably not a great person to be trying to help you. I can't begin to know the lay of the land for African American research. In reading through the little old newspapers, I've often clipped articles, planning on writing how horrible and extreme the prejudice was in the late 1800s and well into the 20th century. The Ku Klux Klan was still going strong in the 20s/30s and I am sure there was a good deal of segregation. I urge you to find a someone or a group whose expertise is in the area. The downtown KCK librarian should be a great source for that. There are also some links through the KU historical site. http://www.ku.edu/heritage/towns/kansascity.html You're welcome to the help and, again, good luck, Pat On 5 Jul 2006 18:06:42 -0600, dianepay@aol.com <dianepay@aol.com> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Harris Patterson > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HAB.2ACI/850 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > I found my Emeline "Emma" Patterson in the 1870 Wyandotte Co., KS census. > She is a cook in a family. > > Emma married a Hugh "Louis/Lewis" Harris. I have never been able to find > Hugh "Louis/Lewis" Harris in the 1870 census. However, I believe they > married between 1870 and 1880, probably in Wyandotte Co., KS. > > They moved to Lyon Co., KS, where they lived most of their lives. No > marriage record for them in Lyon Co., KS. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a marriage record? > > This family is African American. > > Thanks! > Diane Payne in Seattle, WA > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

The Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps are plat maps cities. If you have an address from an old census you can go the SFI map and find the location. The map collection is for various years. I found my husband's great grandfather's home from 1900 on the map in Kansas City, MO. I also found maps for my hometown showing all the old water wells (before city water), gasoline storage facilities, old businesses, etc. Very interesting. Kathleen A. Gregory -----Original Message----- From: Pat Williams [mailto:genealogistgrrl@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:02 AM To: KSWYANDO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KSWYANDO] Library access from home in Kansas Hi Kathleen, I have a card for the KCMO library although I don't access much there besides their postcard collection and books and DVDs. What are the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? Pat On 7/6/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > I have two library cards that allow remote access. One is through the > Kansas State Library. To get a card you visit your local library and the > librarian will sign you up and give you a temporary card. You will then > receive a library card in the mail. It must be renewed annually. Through > it I have access to Heritage Quest. The other one is for the Kansas City > Public Library www.kclibrary.org This is the Kansas City, MO library and > you > can apply for a library card on their website. They have the Sanborn Fire > Insurance Maps available for Kansas and Missouri, which can be accessed > from > your home computer. > > Kathy > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== KSWYANDO-L Discussion List List Administrator John O'Brien JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Kathleen, I have a card for the KCMO library although I don't access much there besides their postcard collection and books and DVDs. What are the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? Pat On 7/6/06, Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: > > I have two library cards that allow remote access. One is through the > Kansas State Library. To get a card you visit your local library and the > librarian will sign you up and give you a temporary card. You will then > receive a library card in the mail. It must be renewed annually. Through > it I have access to Heritage Quest. The other one is for the Kansas City > Public Library www.kclibrary.org This is the Kansas City, MO library and > you > can apply for a library card on their website. They have the Sanborn Fire > Insurance Maps available for Kansas and Missouri, which can be accessed > from > your home computer. > > Kathy > > > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

I have two library cards that allow remote access. One is through the Kansas State Library. To get a card you visit your local library and the librarian will sign you up and give you a temporary card. You will then receive a library card in the mail. It must be renewed annually. Through it I have access to Heritage Quest. The other one is for the Kansas City Public Library www.kclibrary.org This is the Kansas City, MO library and you can apply for a library card on their website. They have the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps available for Kansas and Missouri, which can be accessed from your home computer. Kathy

Hi Kathy, The way that I access this database is through the Mid-Continent Library system in MO. It is basically a "country" consortium created for the areas outside of Kansas City, MO, and you must have a library card and live in the areas. I can access all kinds of newspaper databases: Historic Chicago Trib, Hist NY Times, etc......from home. I cannot access the archival KC STar/Times without going to the library if I go in through the front door, however, this service called Elite Archival Newspapers is an umbrella service that searches archival KC Star/Times, as well as many other national papers. And I can search it from my home computer, once logged in with my library card number. It also offers HeritageQuest genealogy services from the home: census, Rev War records, digitized genealogy library. I have no idea what the state of Kansas libraries offer. You might check with your local library and local family centers to see if they subscribe to some of these newspaper services. The library system that I am in is a part of a bi-state consortium that casts a wide net. Most college libraries simply must offer these newspaper services and I have walked in off the street in other towns and accessed their online resources. A word of caution. These search engines leave a lot to be desired. I have minimal luck with names that are common. I have a one-of-a-kind maiden name and although I have gotten a fair number of hits for the KC, MO, papers, there are lots more articles on the family that don't show up in searches. And the searches vary. Seems to me that during busy times of the day you get fewer hits and more hits in the wee hours when the service is apt to be underused and you get more hits. This is true of all the newspaper services. So if you get access and come up with nothing, my advice is to try several times at different times of the day/night. I just did a search for Seip and came up with a thousand hits. Send me some first names and I will see if I can find anything close to an obit on the first few pages of hits. Here's a John Seip who is advertising for a store called "The Bee Hive" in 1903. Pat On 7/6/06, Kathy918@aol.com <Kathy918@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi Patricia > You mentioned in your email that there is a searchable database dating > back > to the 1890's. > Do you need a Kansas library card to access this? If not, could you send > the web-site address? > I have one family (SEIP) who moved to Kansas City by 1885. At least two > members died between 1900-1910 and I'd like to be able to find > their obituaries. > Thank you for your help. > Kathy Karn > > > ==== KSWYANDO Mailing List ==== > KSWYANDO-L Discussion List > List Administrator > John O'Brien > JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >