Great! Yes, it's good news that NARA has entered the 21st c., better that you receive materials really quite quickly....in a matter of a week or so. I can remember when you wrote for the proper forms, waited weeks and then wrote for the material, waited more weeks. Good luck with Trowbridge and the people there. I have no idea how helpful they end up being. More sources you may or may not be aware of.......The downtown Kansas City KS library used to have a really nice and helpful librarian too. I believe they have what cemetery files have been transcribed http://www.kckpl.lib.ks.us/ http://www.kckpl.lib.ks.us/kscoll/Kscoll2.htm AND the KS Historical society is highly lauded, however, I have been told that they are not as friendly to researching for people. http://www.kshs.org/ More good luck, Pat On 5/6/07, Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > Thanks, Pat. I thought that likely. I had a terrible time figuring out > the > death date of an Ohio ancestor because his name was on the tax list for so > long - finally I found the date his wife was appointed administratrix of > his > estate - about 5 years before her name appeared! I also followed your > excellent suggestion and ordered the Civil War pension file from > NARA. They > have a whole new setup since the last time I tried to order anything from > them - very easy. Joanne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So pleased that you found the roles. I have no idea how helpful the people at the Library are, but they should also help you look for a grave. I don't know about the practice in KS, but I can tell you that own property in MO that has shown my deceased mother's name on the tax roles for all the nine years after her death. When I tried to change, I was told that they do nothing in a joint ownership situation until someone sells the property. I feel quite sure that if they listed MA in 1869, then Henry died in 1868. And, yes, it is my experience that the women were listed on various documents with their husband's initials, long after their death. Pat On 5/6/07, Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > Pat - one more thing - your link to the Trowbridge Research Library was a > great bonus because I could look at the Tax Roll Index for 1869-1905 and > see > that H.T. Hoffman was listed in 1870! Now, he could have died before the > census, in which he did not appear with the family. But oddly, his wife's > name, Mary A. Hoffman, was listed for 1869. I'm not familiar with local > practices because I've done very little research in Kansas records, but in > other states I know that it sometimes took time to get a man's name > removed > and his wife's name substituted. However, this had her name a year before > it had his. Does this suggest anything to you or anyone else familiar > with > this type of Kansas record? Were they likely to list a man's > name/initials > when it was really "Mrs." whoever? Thanks Joanne Gaudio > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pat - one more thing - your link to the Trowbridge Research Library was a great bonus because I could look at the Tax Roll Index for 1869-1905 and see that H.T. Hoffman was listed in 1870! Now, he could have died before the census, in which he did not appear with the family. But oddly, his wife's name, Mary A. Hoffman, was listed for 1869. I'm not familiar with local practices because I've done very little research in Kansas records, but in other states I know that it sometimes took time to get a man's name removed and his wife's name substituted. However, this had her name a year before it had his. Does this suggest anything to you or anyone else familiar with this type of Kansas record? Were they likely to list a man's name/initials when it was really "Mrs." whoever? Thanks Joanne Gaudio

Thanks, Pat. I have the pension info from ancestry.com. I think he survived the war because his civil war record said he was discharged in DC in 1865 - although, of course, he could have died on the way home. I'm afraid this is just one of those things I'll have to accept as "unknowable"! I appreciate your help. Joanne Gaudio

It may be tough to find a grave for that time period, but I did find Mary Ann's Civil War pension application on Ancestry. That means that Henry was definitely in the Civil War. My suggestion is that if, after you search cemetery listings for him,you do not find, you might try getting the pension file or writing to the National Archives. This would tell you whether he died in the war. There "should" be an entire file on him although there isn't always. You can now request records online and the turnaround is speedy. The charge is nominal. http://www.archives.gov/ Old Shawnee Cemetery is listed at the Wyandotte County Historical Musuem but the link doesn't work. You might write or call. http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1019.html If you don't have the pension application, please let me know and I will mail off-list. You cannot attach on list. Good Luck, Patricia On 5/5/07, Joanne Gaudio < jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > I'm looking for information on the family of Henry T. Hoffman, born in MD > (1827), raised in Ohio, and living in Iowa before the Civil War. In 1870 > his wife, Mary Ann Sigler Hoffman (1827-1896, born in OH) and their two > children (born in OH) were living in Shawnee, Wyandotte Co., KS. I'm > especially trying to find out if Henry came to Kansas with them and died > there in Wyandotte Co. Florence (1852-?) married Samuel Beatte (1833-1921) > in Wyandotte Co. in 1875 and remained there. Albert (b. 1854) married Anna > Mary in Wyandotte Co. but ended up in Colorado. If anyone has any > information about this family, especially as to Henry's death and Florence's > death date, I'd really appreciate it. (Henry was the brother of my > great-great grandfather). Thanks. > Joanne Gaudio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm looking for information on the family of Henry T. Hoffman, born in MD (1827), raised in Ohio, and living in Iowa before the Civil War. In 1870 his wife, Mary Ann Sigler Hoffman (1827-1896, born in OH) and their two children (born in OH) were living in Shawnee, Wyandotte Co., KS. I'm especially trying to find out if Henry came to Kansas with them and died there in Wyandotte Co. Florence (1852-?) married Samuel Beatte (1833-1921) in Wyandotte Co. in 1875 and remained there. Albert (b. 1854) married Anna Mary in Wyandotte Co. but ended up in Colorado. If anyone has any information about this family, especially as to Henry's death and Florence's death date, I'd really appreciate it. (Henry was the brother of my great-great grandfather). Thanks. Joanne Gaudio

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Thursday, December 6, 1900 FIFTY DOLLARS FOR A KISS. S. WHEELER a saloon man at Eighteenth and Charlotte streets, complained to Justice WALLS yesterday, alleging that Maude DODGE, a 17-year-old woman of that neighborhood, had stolen $50 from him last Sunday. He said that the defendant had been in his wine room all evening and that he believed she had stolen the money from his trousers as he was giving her a farewell kiss. Maude pleaded not guilty and was sent to jail in default of a $500 bond. Her case will be tried this morning. ====================================================== (I have no connection with these families but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Friday, April 8, 1921 F. G. ALTMAN LOSES $1,000 RING. F. G. ATLMAN, 2114 Benton boulevard, reported to the police that as he was putting his car into his garage in the back of his home about 1 o'clock this morning, he was held up by two men wearing white masks and robbed of a watch and chain and a diamond ring, which he said is worth $1,000. The thieves escaped. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: KAPKA, REAM Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1469/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Monday, July 3, 1922 KANSAS N. G. GIVES A FLAG. Flags are to be placed in every church in Kansas City, Kas. The first was presented last night by officers of the Kansas National Guard under the direction of Maj. Karl KAPKA to the Washington Avenue Methodist Episcopal church. The Grand Army of the Republic, Veterans of Foreign Wars, relief corps and American Legion attended. The Rev. G. Franklin REAM, pastor of the church, delivered a patriotic sermon. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: MASON Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1468/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Monday, July 3, 1922 KU KLUX DIDN'T APPEAR. The Rev. J. M. MASON, pastor of the Quindaro Methodist Episcopal church, Kansas City, Kas., told his congregation yesterday morning the Ku Klux Klan would visit his church last night. At the close of his sermon on patriotism he said if any persons connected with the klan were present, they might come forward and speak a few words. No one responded. The service was dismissed. "I am certain there were many klansmen present," the minister said. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: BURR Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1467/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Monday, January 4, 1909 A MERCANTILE CLUB MEETING TONIGHT. H. W. BURR will address the Mercantile club in Kansas City, Kas., to-night on the need of a juvenile detention home in Kansas City, Kas. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: GARVIN Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1466/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Monday, January 4, 1909 HE HELD CHURCH ON CRUTCHES. The Rev. Samuel GARVIN, pastor of the First Presbyterian church in Kansas City, Kas., was forced to use crutches while conducting services yesterday. Mr. GARVIN fell while alighting from a street car last Wednesday, injuring his right knee. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CathyH909 Surnames: Andereck, Barnett, Gilbert Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1465/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for the obituary for Florence Andereck - Barnett nee Gilbert. I believe she died in Kansas City 1967 - 1970. I don't know for sure. I know she died after her mother. In her mom's obituary she was listed as living in Kansas City, Kansas. Florence was my great Aunt. Thank You, Cathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LGerhart_2000 Surnames: Bridges Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1464/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI All I am looking for a creamery that was in Wyandotte Co., KS. It was probably in business from the years of 1915-1930. Maybe longer. It could have been named Bridges Creamery. Address was N. 3rd Street. Any info would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks~~Lesley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

An important thing to know about this area and your Winters, is that it was well documented by the Bonner Springs Chieftain. There will be obits in the paper that began around the turn of the last century. There is microfilm in the Bonner Springs library and in the Wyandotte County Museum. It is available through family centers. Patricia On 4/16/07, The Williams' <williams21@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Researching WINTER family who settled in Prairie Twp, Wyandotte Co. > Is the "Douglas/Pleasant Ridge/Winters cemetery on Leavenworth Rd between > 99th & Hutton Rd On north side" in Prairie Twp? and has it been > transcribed? > Carole Williams > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carole, The Pleasant Ridge/DouglasWinter cemetery has been transcribed and is on the net at the Wyandotte County Museum site: http://www.wycokck.org/static/historical_museum/Prairie%20Township%20Cemetery%20Index.pdf It can also be found in book form at the Wyandotte County Museum, KCK library, and KCMO Central Library genealogy room. The Trowbridge Library: http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1019.html Good luck, Patricia On 4/16/07, The Williams' <williams21@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Researching WINTER family who settled in Prairie Twp, Wyandotte Co. > Is the "Douglas/Pleasant Ridge/Winters cemetery on Leavenworth Rd between > 99th & Hutton Rd On north side" in Prairie Twp? and has it been > transcribed? > Carole Williams > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Tuesday, July 18, 1905 WHEN THE WOMEN BALKED. An excursion to Leavenworth over the electric line last Saturday evening was under the auspices of the women of the Y.W.C.A. But the chances are there will not be another under the same management very soon. The women had sold about 100 tickets at 50 cents each, and the car which was to take them was packed when it left the Junction. The trouble commenced as they were starting down into the tunnel, when the conductor for the Metropolitan came around to collect fares. He asked 5 cents from each of the excursionists, saying their tickets were good only from Kansas City, Kas., to Leavenworth and return. The 5 cents was for the fare to Kansas City, Kas. (from Kansas City, MO). Nearly all of the passengers were women, and a large part of them balked. They had paid their 50 cents for the trip and they didn't intend to pay any more. The arguments waxed warm, and as a result the car was run into the depot terminals and held there for forty minutes, while the women were deciding on their course of action. All this time it was of course swelteringly hot. Stiffly starched shirtwaists were melting, and some of those who had been standing up ever since the car started were about ready to give it up as a bad job. Some of the women were in favor of giving up the whole proposition and coming back to town. Others wanted to pay the fare and go on. Finally they paid and the excursion proceeded. When the party started on the return trip, the people who were left out in the rush for seats decided that they did not want to stand up all the way back. Some of them accordingly secured fragments of boards of various sorts and sizes, and laid them across the aisle, from seat to seat. This made it more comfortable for the people in the aisles, but the ends of the boards were often rough and sharp, and their presence did not increase the comfort of the people in the seats. Neither did it lessen the heat in the crowded car. ======================================================

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Thursday, December 6, 1900 WERE FINED $10 EACH. A Mrs. CARPENTER, living at 504 Tracy avenue, and Billy ADDINGTON, her neighbor, were each fined $10 in police court yesterday morning. Mrs. CARPENTER had ADDINGTON arrested Tuesday on a charge of throwing a stick of cordwood at her little boy. After the evidence was all in, Judge McAULEY decided that both were to blame, fining them $10 each and giving them a stay during good behavior. ====================================================== (I have no connection with these families but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================