I have never seen an enlarged old map of KCK that divided the city into precincts. It's the sort of thing that the Wyandotte County Museum Trowbridge research room ought to have access to. Or the Family History room of the downtown KCK library. I did take a look at the 1900 US Census, where the 5th Ward is described as being all south of Central Ave and east of 10th Street. That means that it is pretty much in the heart of Kansas City, Kansas. If you simply type "10th at Central Avenue" into any online mapping program,(I tried randmcnally) you will be able to get an idea of the area. You can compare with cemetery addresses unless someone else knows of a cemeteries map, however, I have no listing of the cemeteries with addresses to offer. For a listing of the cemeteries without addresses see: http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1019.html Perhaps someone else knows KCK well enough to suggest what cemeteries she's most likely to be buried in. Good Luck! Patricia Williams On 5/18/07, LHawthorne@aol.com <LHawthorne@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello... > I've recently joined the List and am researching the family of Amos > JENKINS > (1861-1942). About 1897 he married Alice F. Robb Fergison. They had one > child, Gladys. > Alice had a daughter, Ethel Fergison. > > In 1905, they were living in Pct. 27 of the 5th Ward where Alice ran a > market. The Post Office is listed as Kansas City (KS). > Could someone on the List please tell me where this is. I would really > appreciate the help. I think Alice may have died between 1905-1910 and > need to > know what cemeteries would be in that area. > > Thanks for any help. > Louise > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks so much for your interest, Pat. And, yes, this is frustrating. We have more than forty members of our family buried at St. John's Cemetery. We are losing headstones and the cemetery has no records...It is awful. I thank you for you contact information. I will be in touch with them. I found several books they have published on local cemeteries this week. At least they are trying...Unlike those businesses that get paid to care for our cemeteries. What a paradox! Thanks so much, Pamela Tate Pat Williams <genealogistgrrl@gmail.com> wrote: I completely understand your frustration, however, my understanding is that this message board is exactly that. There is no guarantee that members of the Wyandotte County Genealogical Society will see your post. Many of the people who belong and post are from other states and outlying areas. The address of the Wyandotte County Genealogical Society is: Wyandotte County Genealogy Society PO BOX 4228 Kansas City, KS 66104-0228 You might also let the Wyandotte County Museum and genealogical center with the Trowbridge Library know about your problems. They have a county historian employed. http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Historical_Museum_m386.html info@wycokck.org Unfortunately, your findings at the Catholic Cemetery are not unusual. I have the same issues in dealing with parishes in Iowa. There are also many old cemeteries in Wyandotte County that are maintained by the Parks Department and are being lost to vandalism and neglect. Good luck! Patricia Williams On 5/15/07, Tate wrote: > > For more than a year now my efforts to identify a grave with a missing > headstone in our family plot has proven unproductive. > > I have found that the miserable state of cemetery records are common place > even in the Catholic Church. At St. John's Cemetery, Catholic Cemeteries > has no idea who is buried where...and the agency Director, Robert Chenoweth, > discourages the research efforts of his staff and deliberately roadblocks > our family efforts. > > The Archdiocese office has little time to attend such matters. Father > Horvat of the parish office at St. Anthony's and St. Mary's parish records > has no burial records from St. Marys...though he has been most kind. So, > Church records have not proven helpful either. > > I had all but given up hope when on a whim I decided to give the Kansas > City Kansas Public Library a try. I found the most delightful book on St. > John's Cemetery written by Wyandotte County Genealogy Society...Wow. > > I wish to thank the incredible people of the Wyandotte County Genealogy > Society for their generous work in helping to preserve our rapidly aging > cemeteries. What irony to find the book was written with cooperation of the > former staff at Catholic Cemeteries. We certainly could use their help now, > believe me. > > With the stone missing and all evidence of records missing, too...our > family member may not be found now that Catholic Cemeteries has lost the > stone. > > I am anxious to see if the evidence from the book will prove beneficial. > At least we have a chance now thanks to your organization! > > I have a question: > Has any work been completed indexing St. John's burial plot/grave > maps? And if so, do they index individual grave records? > > In closing, I have a wish for your website. Wyandotte County has many > exciting historical cemeteries. It would be wonderful if your organization > could present your incredible volume of work online. In this way the scope > of your hard work could make far more impact on human lives. > > Please do relay my deepest thanks to the hard working members of the > Wyandotte County Genealogy Society. As someone who has been a genealogist > for more than thirty years myself, my appreciation is as real as it gets. > > Sincerely, > > Pamela Tate > > > > > Tate Dunham Design Studios > > 9257 Lowell Ave. > Overland Park, KS 66212 > 913.642.6935 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello... I've recently joined the List and am researching the family of Amos JENKINS (1861-1942). About 1897 he married Alice F. Robb Fergison. They had one child, Gladys. Alice had a daughter, Ethel Fergison. In 1905, they were living in Pct. 27 of the 5th Ward where Alice ran a market. The Post Office is listed as Kansas City (KS). Could someone on the List please tell me where this is. I would really appreciate the help. I think Alice may have died between 1905-1910 and need to know what cemeteries would be in that area. Thanks for any help. Louise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks Gary, I haven't tried Tombstone Project. I will give it a try. Tate Gary Barnes <familyresearcher77@yahoo.com> wrote: I have 2 ancestors buried in St Johns and I have seen a list online somewhere however i dont remember where, either Rootsweb or Tombstone Porject or somethin like that. Hav you tried the Family Search site ? Gary Barnes Tate wrote: For more than a year now my efforts to identify a grave with a missing headstone in our family plot has proven unproductive. I have found that the miserable state of cemetery records are common place even in the Catholic Church. At St. John's Cemetery, Catholic Cemeteries has no idea who is buried where...and the agency Director, Robert Chenoweth, discourages the research efforts of his staff and deliberately roadblocks our family efforts. The Archdiocese office has little time to attend such matters. Father Horvat of the parish office at St. Anthony's and St. Mary's parish records has no burial records from St. Marys...though he has been most kind. So, Church records have not proven helpful either. I had all but given up hope when on a whim I decided to give the Kansas City Kansas Public Library a try. I found the most delightful book on St. John's Cemetery written by Wyandotte County Genealogy Society...Wow. I wish to thank the incredible people of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society for their generous work in helping to preserve our rapidly aging cemeteries. What irony to find the book was written with cooperation of the former staff at Catholic Cemeteries. We certainly could use their help now, believe me. With the stone missing and all evidence of records missing, too...our family member may not be found now that Catholic Cemeteries has lost the stone. I am anxious to see if the evidence from the book will prove beneficial. At least we have a chance now thanks to your organization! I have a question: Has any work been completed indexing St. John's burial plot/grave maps? And if so, do they index individual grave records? In closing, I have a wish for your website. Wyandotte County has many exciting historical cemeteries. It would be wonderful if your organization could present your incredible volume of work online. In this way the scope of your hard work could make far more impact on human lives. Please do relay my deepest thanks to the hard working members of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society. As someone who has been a genealogist for more than thirty years myself, my appreciation is as real as it gets. Sincerely, Pamela Tate Tate Dunham Design Studios 9257 Lowell Ave. Overland Park, KS 66212 913.642.6935 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't have a direct relative for you...but I can help you with a couple of helpful Wyandotte County Links. This is the County you need to research for Kansas City, Kansas. http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/wyandott/wy-browse.html#places The Wyandotte County Genealogical Society is very well organized, too. http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/wyandott/ Kansas City, Kansas Cemeteries don't have much online as yet. I know, I am having a lot of trouble finding information myself. Good luck..... Pamela Tate LHawthorne@aol.com wrote: Hello... I've recently joined the List and am researching the family of Amos JENKINS (1861-1942). About 1897 he married Alice F. Robb Fergison. They had one child, Gladys. Alice had a daughter, Ethel Fergison. In 1905, they were living in Pct. 27 of the 5th Ward where Alice ran a market. The Post Office is listed as Kansas City (KS). Could someone on the List please tell me where this is. I would really appreciate the help. I think Alice may have died between 1905-1910 and need to know what cemeteries would be in that area. Thanks for any help. Louise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I completely understand your frustration, however, my understanding is that this message board is exactly that. There is no guarantee that members of the Wyandotte County Genealogical Society will see your post. Many of the people who belong and post are from other states and outlying areas. The address of the Wyandotte County Genealogical Society is: Wyandotte County Genealogy Society PO BOX 4228 Kansas City, KS 66104-0228 You might also let the Wyandotte County Museum and genealogical center with the Trowbridge Library know about your problems. They have a county historian employed. http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Historical_Museum_m386.html info@wycokck.org Unfortunately, your findings at the Catholic Cemetery are not unusual. I have the same issues in dealing with parishes in Iowa. There are also many old cemeteries in Wyandotte County that are maintained by the Parks Department and are being lost to vandalism and neglect. Good luck! Patricia Williams On 5/15/07, Tate <ptated1@yahoo.com> wrote: > > For more than a year now my efforts to identify a grave with a missing > headstone in our family plot has proven unproductive. > > I have found that the miserable state of cemetery records are common place > even in the Catholic Church. At St. John's Cemetery, Catholic Cemeteries > has no idea who is buried where...and the agency Director, Robert Chenoweth, > discourages the research efforts of his staff and deliberately roadblocks > our family efforts. > > The Archdiocese office has little time to attend such matters. Father > Horvat of the parish office at St. Anthony's and St. Mary's parish records > has no burial records from St. Marys...though he has been most kind. So, > Church records have not proven helpful either. > > I had all but given up hope when on a whim I decided to give the Kansas > City Kansas Public Library a try. I found the most delightful book on St. > John's Cemetery written by Wyandotte County Genealogy Society...Wow. > > I wish to thank the incredible people of the Wyandotte County Genealogy > Society for their generous work in helping to preserve our rapidly aging > cemeteries. What irony to find the book was written with cooperation of the > former staff at Catholic Cemeteries. We certainly could use their help now, > believe me. > > With the stone missing and all evidence of records missing, too...our > family member may not be found now that Catholic Cemeteries has lost the > stone. > > I am anxious to see if the evidence from the book will prove beneficial. > At least we have a chance now thanks to your organization! > > I have a question: > Has any work been completed indexing St. John's burial plot/grave > maps? And if so, do they index individual grave records? > > In closing, I have a wish for your website. Wyandotte County has many > exciting historical cemeteries. It would be wonderful if your organization > could present your incredible volume of work online. In this way the scope > of your hard work could make far more impact on human lives. > > Please do relay my deepest thanks to the hard working members of the > Wyandotte County Genealogy Society. As someone who has been a genealogist > for more than thirty years myself, my appreciation is as real as it gets. > > Sincerely, > > Pamela Tate > > > > > Tate Dunham Design Studios > > 9257 Lowell Ave. > Overland Park, KS 66212 > 913.642.6935 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have 2 ancestors buried in St Johns and I have seen a list online somewhere however i dont remember where, either Rootsweb or Tombstone Porject or somethin like that. Hav you tried the Family Search site ? Gary Barnes Tate <ptated1@yahoo.com> wrote: For more than a year now my efforts to identify a grave with a missing headstone in our family plot has proven unproductive. I have found that the miserable state of cemetery records are common place even in the Catholic Church. At St. John's Cemetery, Catholic Cemeteries has no idea who is buried where...and the agency Director, Robert Chenoweth, discourages the research efforts of his staff and deliberately roadblocks our family efforts. The Archdiocese office has little time to attend such matters. Father Horvat of the parish office at St. Anthony's and St. Mary's parish records has no burial records from St. Marys...though he has been most kind. So, Church records have not proven helpful either. I had all but given up hope when on a whim I decided to give the Kansas City Kansas Public Library a try. I found the most delightful book on St. John's Cemetery written by Wyandotte County Genealogy Society...Wow. I wish to thank the incredible people of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society for their generous work in helping to preserve our rapidly aging cemeteries. What irony to find the book was written with cooperation of the former staff at Catholic Cemeteries. We certainly could use their help now, believe me. With the stone missing and all evidence of records missing, too...our family member may not be found now that Catholic Cemeteries has lost the stone. I am anxious to see if the evidence from the book will prove beneficial. At least we have a chance now thanks to your organization! I have a question: Has any work been completed indexing St. John's burial plot/grave maps? And if so, do they index individual grave records? In closing, I have a wish for your website. Wyandotte County has many exciting historical cemeteries. It would be wonderful if your organization could present your incredible volume of work online. In this way the scope of your hard work could make far more impact on human lives. Please do relay my deepest thanks to the hard working members of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society. As someone who has been a genealogist for more than thirty years myself, my appreciation is as real as it gets. Sincerely, Pamela Tate Tate Dunham Design Studios 9257 Lowell Ave. Overland Park, KS 66212 913.642.6935 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

For more than a year now my efforts to identify a grave with a missing headstone in our family plot has proven unproductive. I have found that the miserable state of cemetery records are common place even in the Catholic Church. At St. John's Cemetery, Catholic Cemeteries has no idea who is buried where...and the agency Director, Robert Chenoweth, discourages the research efforts of his staff and deliberately roadblocks our family efforts. The Archdiocese office has little time to attend such matters. Father Horvat of the parish office at St. Anthony's and St. Mary's parish records has no burial records from St. Marys...though he has been most kind. So, Church records have not proven helpful either. I had all but given up hope when on a whim I decided to give the Kansas City Kansas Public Library a try. I found the most delightful book on St. John's Cemetery written by Wyandotte County Genealogy Society...Wow. I wish to thank the incredible people of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society for their generous work in helping to preserve our rapidly aging cemeteries. What irony to find the book was written with cooperation of the former staff at Catholic Cemeteries. We certainly could use their help now, believe me. With the stone missing and all evidence of records missing, too...our family member may not be found now that Catholic Cemeteries has lost the stone. I am anxious to see if the evidence from the book will prove beneficial. At least we have a chance now thanks to your organization! I have a question: Has any work been completed indexing St. John's burial plot/grave maps? And if so, do they index individual grave records? In closing, I have a wish for your website. Wyandotte County has many exciting historical cemeteries. It would be wonderful if your organization could present your incredible volume of work online. In this way the scope of your hard work could make far more impact on human lives. Please do relay my deepest thanks to the hard working members of the Wyandotte County Genealogy Society. As someone who has been a genealogist for more than thirty years myself, my appreciation is as real as it gets. Sincerely, Pamela Tate Tate Dunham Design Studios 9257 Lowell Ave. Overland Park, KS 66212 913.642.6935

Again, Melissa, thank you SO much! Yes, Evelyn is one of the group, but she, at least, lived long enough to be in the SSDI! I really, really appreciate your help. Joanne

Melissa, Since you seem to have access to Mt. Hope Cemetery info, can you tell me if Dyssie Margaret Beattie and William Albert Beattie are also buried there? They're children of Samuel and Margaret and might be in the same plot. Thank you so much. Joanne Gaudio

Melissa, Thank you very much. Pictures won't be necessary. Samuel Beattie's date sounds perfect, based on what I have, but Florence's doesn't seem right. Are you sure it said 1916 and not, maybe 1936? She was alive in 1930 and living in Kansas City, KS, with several of her adult children. She didn't have a daughter named Florence, either. Could it be a typo in whatever book or record you consulted? I don't mean to sound unappreciative, because I appreciate your help very much! It's just that she can't have died in 1916! Joanne

Dysair M. Beattie, January 24, 1953, Section 113, Lot 23, grave 4 William A. Beattie, December 16, 1938, Section 113, Lot 6, grave 5 Evelyn M. Beattie, December 14, 1972, Section 113, lot 23, grave 5 Wasn't sure if Evelyn was one of yours or not, but it was the same section, so I thought I'd list her too. Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: Melissa, Since you seem to have access to Mt. Hope Cemetery info, can you tell me if Dyssie Margaret Beattie and William Albert Beattie are also buried there? They're children of Samuel and Margaret and might be in the same plot. Thank you so much. Joanne Gaudio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's possible that it's a typo in the book. I was told the book was compiled from the cemetery records, and then they indicated which ones had markers but a typo is a possibility. Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: Melissa, Thank you very much. Pictures won't be necessary. Samuel Beattie's date sounds perfect, based on what I have, but Florence's doesn't seem right. Are you sure it said 1916 and not, maybe 1936? She was alive in 1930 and living in Kansas City, KS, with several of her adult children. She didn't have a daughter named Florence, either. Could it be a typo in whatever book or record you consulted? I don't mean to sound unappreciative, because I appreciate your help very much! It's just that she can't have died in 1916! Joanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joanne, Samuel and Florence Beattie are buried in Mt. Hope Cemetery in Kansas City, Wyandotte County, Kansas. Samuel died January 27, 1920 and is buried in Section 113, lot 6, grave 3. Florence died July 16, 1916, buried in Section 113, lot 6, grave 4. Both have gravestones. There is no Mary Ann or Henry Hoffman buried at Mt. Hope. Hope this helps you. I can go to the cemetery and try to locate their markers for you and take digital photos over Memorial Day weekend if you like. Melissa Kansas City, KS Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: I'm trying to find the burials (and death dates) of members of two related families who lived in Shawnee and then Kansas City, Wyandotte Co. I've found nothing helpful on the web, and I was wondering if someone has access to any cemetery books that might give the info. These are the people for whom I'm searching - Beattie, Samuel (b. 1833, d. around 1921) and his wife, Beattie, Florence (nee Hoffman (b. 1852, still living in 1930), and her mother Hoffman, Mary Ann (b. 1827, still living in the 1895 Kansas census but not in 1900), and possibly her husband, Hoffman, Henry T. (b. 1827 - ?came to Kansas and died before 1870) If anyone can help out, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks. Joanne Gaudio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Johnna. I emailed them - we'll see what they say. Joanne G.

Your best bet is to contact the Historical Museum for Wyandotte County, they have all of the cemetery records. Their site is http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1019.html They have contact info on there as well as a few of the transcriptions for cemeteries online. There really aren't cemetery books for most Wyandotte County cemeteries in the regular libraries, you pretty much have to go through the Historical Museum. Johnna Quick > I'm trying to find the burials (and death dates) of members of two related > families who lived in Shawnee and then Kansas City, Wyandotte Co. I've > found nothing helpful on the web, and I was wondering if someone has > access to any cemetery books that might give the info. These are the > people for whom I'm searching - > Beattie, Samuel (b. 1833, d. around 1921) and his wife, > Beattie, Florence (nee Hoffman (b. 1852, still living in 1930), and her > mother > Hoffman, Mary Ann (b. 1827, still living in the 1895 Kansas census but not > in 1900), and possibly her husband, > Hoffman, Henry T. (b. 1827 - ?came to Kansas and died before 1870) > If anyone can help out, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks. Joanne > Gaudio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm trying to find the burials (and death dates) of members of two related families who lived in Shawnee and then Kansas City, Wyandotte Co. I've found nothing helpful on the web, and I was wondering if someone has access to any cemetery books that might give the info. These are the people for whom I'm searching - Beattie, Samuel (b. 1833, d. around 1921) and his wife, Beattie, Florence (nee Hoffman (b. 1852, still living in 1930), and her mother Hoffman, Mary Ann (b. 1827, still living in the 1895 Kansas census but not in 1900), and possibly her husband, Hoffman, Henry T. (b. 1827 - ?came to Kansas and died before 1870) If anyone can help out, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks. Joanne Gaudio

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Thanks, Pat. I thought that likely. I had a terrible time figuring out the death date of an Ohio ancestor because his name was on the tax list for so long - finally I found the date his wife was appointed administratrix of his estate - about 5 years before her name appeared! I also followed your excellent suggestion and ordered the Civil War pension file from NARA. They have a whole new setup since the last time I tried to order anything from them - very easy. Joanne