This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarilynFerguson42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a Geo Mathews buried at Leavenworth National Cemetery but the site only lists his name and burial plot. Section 2 Row 17 site 9. There are no dates. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rjhudsonmoyer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hmmm...that is something i can check out. 1905 census shows him living same home he had been living in since 1890, argentine area 636 s 3rd street argentine, none of his children were living with him, but...had a boarder, and the boarders wife and child. I wonder if i tried tracing the boarders, I would be able to find someone who might remember them living there, and might have heard anything about him. thank you for the info you sent. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rjhudsonmoyer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We know that his sons did not leave the argentine area of kc until around 1915 for one son, and the other son after that. They both ended up moving to texas then california. I am thinking maybe one of those parks you mentioned. The only daughter was my grandmother who in 1907 moved down to Independence with my great grandfather's sister etta. Grandma's mom died in 1898, when grandma was a little girl not quite 5. And there were the two sons who I have mentioned then the brother and some nephews. I do have their marriage license for my great grandparents, they were married in Independence Kansas, (south east corner of Kansas near the oklahoma border). I will check to see if maybe he did get remarried. Thank you for the idea!!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is a Mathews, the right year but no first name: No Headline (Mortuary Notice) Date: 1907-10-15; Paper: The Kansas City Star "The funeral of Mr Mathews who died at _21 Ann Ave, Kansas City, KS, will take place today at 2pm at the Soldiers Home, Leavenworth, Kansas" Ann Avenue runs right behind the Wyandotte County Library. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GenealogistGirl Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It would be really unusual for someone to buy 4 burial plots, bury the wife in one, and then not be buried there himself. It usually means one of several things: he re-married and was buried with the second wife; he left the area to live with a grown child and they bury him near them; there's some sort of weird family feud among children about the burial place; or he's in one of these older now-park-managed cemeteries, he just didn't get marked and there are poor records. It doesn't sound like the last option, since there is not record at the funeral home. If you are a distance, it's a problem, but the KCK courthouse does have marriage books and so does the Wyandotte County Museum so you could look for a marriage for him or get the married names of the daughters so you can see if there were any children living elsewhere or if he could have married. I suggest that you also consult the Wyandotte County Museum for suggestions. http://www.wycokck.org/gen/wyco_generated_pages/Trowbridge_Research_Library_m1019.html info@wycokck.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rjhudsonmoyer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wish it were, because I have hit a dead end. My great grandfather, George Mathews, was at least at the time of my grandma's birth, a night watchman for standard oil. I know in 1905 he was alive, because I traveled from the east coast to kc and went to the library, and found that census, also have him in a directory in 1907, after that nothing, so I believe he died between 1907 and 1910. I went to the cemetery where my great grandma is buried, he bought for plots only hers is used. And I visited a funeral home, and they could not find a record of him, but did find her. I am a lost. But thank you for asking, if you were to come across anything I would be grateful if you would pass any Mathews things along to me, i could weed them out. Also the two sons were still leaving in kc until about 1920 as well as his brother Marion Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JanetPorter31 Surnames: Rich, Bradish, Grigsby Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1450.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be interested in seeing that obituary, if you would also send it to me. My Granmother was born in Chetopa, Labette County, in 1887. It would be interesting to see if much is said about Chetopa, KS. Her father worked for a railroad, don't know which one, at that time. I wasn't able to get on the website to read it. My email address is jporter85@msn.com. Thank you. Janet Bradish Porter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1422.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No Headline (Mortuary Notice) Date: 1895-07-03; Paper: The Kansas City Star Forsberg - Mrs Augusta Forsberg, July 2, at her late home, 815 W 12th street; wife of John Forsberg. Funeral Thursday at 2 pm from residence, Interment, Elmwood Cemetery. Friends invited. Hope this helps Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1427.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gas from Cider Exploded. A Kansas, While Painting a Task, Was Severely Burned (News Article) Date: 1909-09-21; Paper: The Kansas City Times http://infoweb.newsbank.com.proxy.mcpl.lib.mo.us/gbnl/doc.hml?p_docnum=1&p_docref=v1:116FB0F3360A55D8/idb00.116FB0F04548A170-116FB0F3360A55D8&p_multi=GBLNEWS&p_queryname=1 Let me know if you can't access this link, I'll download and email to you. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1432.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Was your George Mathews an architect? There are several articles about his death, but in 1903, killed in a street car accident. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wyandotte/1450.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Date: 1910-01-15; Paper: The Kansas City Times I found an obit for a John W Breidenthal, on the above date. Very long article about his life, names a son, Willard J. Perhaps you can click on this link. http://infoweb.newsbank.com.proxy.mcpl.lib.mo.us/gbnl/doc.html?p_docnum=7&p_docref=v1:11662CE26F3EAA60/idb00.11662CDC50C526E0-11662CE26F3EAA60&p_multi=GBLNEWS&p_queryname=2 It's a member site, so let me know if you can't access it, I'll download it and email it to you. Seems there are hundreds of articles with the Breidenthal surname in the KC Star in the early 1900's. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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P.S. I will send you the two articles that I downloaded off-list. Pat On 5/19/07, Pat Williams <genealogistgrrl@gmail.com> wrote: > > That is INTERESTING. Whether or not he is actually "your guy". I assume > that you saw his listing in the IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0258134/ > I guess I'm not too surprised that a film "star" would not want to go by > Grover Cleveland Ensminger, : ) > Some of these old film people changed their names when talkies hit. They > also changed their names when they had to join the union. Or they just lost > their jobs because they could not adjust to talkies. > > I have the LA Times Historical Edition through my library. I got 167 hits > on the proper spelling of the name and so didn't go through all the > articles. One 1922 article on a radio play he was directing. A Louise filed > for divorce against a Robert on 041725. Checked out the only obit that I > found for a Robert in 1943, but according to the CA death index, he was born > in 1901 in TX. I did NOT do a search using alternate spellings. Bert the > director did seem to disappear. I would think that if he died, there should > be an obit for him, which might turn up with a good comb of a limited years > span in the Times. > > The only suggestion that I have is that to eliminate him, you might see if > you can find a Robert or Bert in earlier KS census. Technically, if it is a > different guy, he should also show up in the 1885 listing. > > More good luck, > Pat > > > On 5/19/07, Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > > > Patricia, > > I see what you mean about the commas. I've never seen that > > before. The > > REALLY interesting thing is that the Bert Ensininger you found in the > > WWI > > registrations - and it was written as Ensminger on the actual card - > > turns > > out to have been a movie director whose real name was Robert. He acted > > in > > and directed some b-grade movies in the teens and 20s. I can't find a > > bio > > of him nor any reference after about 1923 (there are other Robert > > Ensmingers, but not him). So maybe he died out in CA. I notice the > > draft > > card says his wife lived in Washington state and then in 1920 he said he > > was > > divorced. Again, thanks for your help. Two sets of eyes are ALWAYS > > better > > than one! Joanne > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

That is INTERESTING. Whether or not he is actually "your guy". I assume that you saw his listing in the IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0258134/ I guess I'm not too surprised that a film "star" would not want to go by Grover Cleveland Ensminger, : ) Some of these old film people changed their names when talkies hit. They also changed their names when they had to join the union. Or they just lost their jobs because they could not adjust to talkies. I have the LA Times Historical Edition through my library. I got 167 hits on the proper spelling of the name and so didn't go through all the articles. One 1922 article on a radio play he was directing. A Louise filed for divorce against a Robert on 041725. Checked out the only obit that I found for a Robert in 1943, but according to the CA death index, he was born in 1901 in TX. I did NOT do a search using alternate spellings. Bert the director did seem to disappear. I would think that if he died, there should be an obit for him, which might turn up with a good comb of a limited years span in the Times. The only suggestion that I have is that to eliminate him, you might see if you can find a Robert or Bert in earlier KS census. Technically, if it is a different guy, he should also show up in the 1885 listing. More good luck, Pat On 5/19/07, Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > > Patricia, > I see what you mean about the commas. I've never seen that > before. The > REALLY interesting thing is that the Bert Ensininger you found in the WWI > registrations - and it was written as Ensminger on the actual card - turns > out to have been a movie director whose real name was Robert. He acted in > and directed some b-grade movies in the teens and 20s. I can't find a bio > of him nor any reference after about 1923 (there are other Robert > Ensmingers, but not him). So maybe he died out in CA. I notice the draft > card says his wife lived in Washington state and then in 1920 he said he > was > divorced. Again, thanks for your help. Two sets of eyes are ALWAYS > better > than one! Joanne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Patricia, I see what you mean about the commas. I've never seen that before. The REALLY interesting thing is that the Bert Ensininger you found in the WWI registrations - and it was written as Ensminger on the actual card - turns out to have been a movie director whose real name was Robert. He acted in and directed some b-grade movies in the teens and 20s. I can't find a bio of him nor any reference after about 1923 (there are other Robert Ensmingers, but not him). So maybe he died out in CA. I notice the draft card says his wife lived in Washington state and then in 1920 he said he was divorced. Again, thanks for your help. Two sets of eyes are ALWAYS better than one! Joanne

In a message dated 5/19/2007 1:29:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jgaudio@charter.net writes:I WROTE TO SOME ONE?MY COUSIN WAS MARRIED IN50S TO A WM. ENSMINGER, FATHER WAS GEORGE, WHOS FAMILY WERE ORIG. FROM KANSAS. THATS ALL SHE KNOWS, ALL DEAD NOW AND THEYWERE DIVORCED.JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THAT IN...I GUESS NO HELP.K. Patricia, I see what you mean about the commas. I've never seen that before. The REALLY interesting thing is that the Bert Ensininger you found in the WWI registrations - and it was written as Ensminger on the actual card - turns out to have been a movie director whose real name was Robert. He acted in and directed some b-grade movies in the teens and 20s. I can't find a bio of him nor any reference after about 1923 (there are other Robert Ensmingers, but not him). So maybe he died out in CA. I notice the draft card says his wife lived in Washington state and then in 1920 he said he was divorced. Again, thanks for your help. Two sets of eyes are ALWAYS better than one! Joanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks for all the tips, Pat. They're good ones, and I'll get on it. I have a feeling people died, too. But Bert in CA? I hadn't noticed him and I'll check into it. About the Cleveland - I hadn't noticed the quotation marks, but my guess was that the name was really Grover Cleveland - very popular at the time. But you never know! Joanne

In a message dated 5/19/2007 11:18:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, VivianJ8169@aol.com writes:My cousin was married in 50s to a William Ensminger, his father was George from Kansas ago. Wm and parents are dead, so she really dosnt know anything about their background. Just thought I would throw that info to you.Kathy Since Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri are only separated by a river it occurred to me maybe there was an error back in the 1800 which state a person was really born in or died in. If they have always use he "river as the border" the earthquake in 1811 did change the river. I know this was before Kansas was a state; however, we have had floods and this could possibly have changed it. Also the Corp of Engineers (whenever they started) made changes to the rivers and its tributaries. I think the corps started in 1775. This is all just crazy possibilities I know....but I have been told we people who like genealogy are a bit this way. Vivian ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

That Wm lists his father as being born in France in a census and does give the father as George. I got the impression it was an unrelated family. But.......... I don't know about the river theory, but people who lived in KCK - the city itself - often moved back and forth to MO. So yours is a great point to bring up. It's worth checking KCMO. There are marriage records online. Didn't see your people. http://records.co.jackson.mo.us/search.asp?cabinet=marriage here are also city directories that go way back. And the state death records are also online. The site seems to be down right now. http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ The thing to know when searching is that pre-1910 records haven't all been scanned into the database yet. Patricia On 5/19/07, KBabin1070@aol.com <KBabin1070@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/19/2007 11:18:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > VivianJ8169@aol.com writes:My cousin was married in 50s to a > William Ensminger, his father was George from Kansas ago. Wm and > parents are dead, so she really dosnt know anything about their > background. Just thought I would throw that info to you.Kathy > > Since Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri are only separated > by a > > river > it occurred to me maybe there was an error back in the 1800 which state > a > person was really born in or died in. > > If they have always use he "river as the border" the earthquake in 1811 > did > > change the river. I know this was before Kansas was a state; however, > we > have had floods > and this could possibly have changed it. Also the Corp of Engineers > (whenever they started) made changes to the rivers and > its tributaries. I > think the > corps started in 1775. > > This is all just crazy possibilities I know....but I have been told we > people who like > genealogy are a bit this way. > > Vivian > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSWYANDO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >