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    1. [KSWABAUN] new list home is ready
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. The new home for the Wabaunsee county mailing list has been set up. In a few minutes, I'll send out personal invitations to the subscribers of this list who wish to join the new group will be able to do so. I can not add members directly. It should be a link you can click that will let you 'accept' the invitation to join the new group. You may need to check your spam folder as I can't say when such will be delivered. If you don't find an invitation in your email you may also go to this site - https://groups.io/g/KS-WABAUNSEE and select Join Group. Of course, folks may still post to this list through 3/1. Tim Stowell

    02/19/2020 12:06:44
    1. [KSWABAUN] Status of the Wabaunsee county mailing list - 2020
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. As of now, the Wabaunsee county mailing list has 33 subscribers. In light of this list closing on March 2nd, with the full knowledge of the list owner - Susan Penn Groover, I have set up a new home for this list. I've recently set up similar homes for other Rootsweb lists that will be going defunct next month. In my next email, I'll send you further information regarding this and how to join the new home for this list. Tim Stowell Chattanooga

    02/18/2020 09:52:48
    1. [KSWABAUN] Leave a Farewell Message
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/13/2020 12:33:19
    1. [KSWABAUN] Ramblings from the Backseat
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

    01/12/2020 01:18:16
    1. [KSWABAUN] Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

    01/11/2020 09:18:04
    1. [KSWABAUN] Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

    01/10/2020 07:47:39
    1. [KSWABAUN] Update
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Hi everyone! This has been heavy on my heart since Ancestry / Roots Web announcement. I have been admin / moderator for various mailing lists for 25+ years (some lists that predate Roots Web). The options for change do not fit my personal criteria. This is, also, not happening at a time I am able to give personal time for this change. Plus, I think Ancestry is not given an adequate “heads up” for this change. (I personally admin 200+ lists) So I have made the decision to become a subscriber as opposed to an administrator. I will remain admin to the mailing lists I currently admin till Roots Web makes the changes they propose on March 2^nd . I am leaving the decision for change to the list members. I am still gathering options. I will post suggestions in the next few days. The major option I am hearing is Facebook. I suppose this could work. But Facebook, in my humble opinion, would be turning a mailing list into a message board. And various mailing list members have stated they would not Facebook. Personally, I am in this bucket. I have personal issues with Facebook. Open discussion on the list. Voice your opinion. Enough for now. Will post more on other options in the future. Susan Penn Groover, List Administrator --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/09/2020 07:35:52
    1. [KSWABAUN] Roots Web no longer supporting mailing list in March 2020
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. For those that have not heard the news ... Rootsweb will no longer be supporting mailing lists in March 2020.  It will remain read only, so archives will be accessible.  In my mind, I question how long. Please keep in mind that each mailing list archives is the property of RootsWeb and will not be able to moved, removed, etc. Only the mailing list members list will be accessible by the admin for that list. I am looking for alternatives which I have started listing below. Alternatives: Ancestry -- as I understand, this alternative is platform based. Meaning one would have to long into to post a message as opposed to simply sending an e-mail. Groups.io -- would keep mailing, but to get full function a fee would be required. Google Groups -- I have not researched this option.  Personally, I have issues with Google and will not pursue this option as admin. I suppose the major decision is whether to remain an e-mail based Group or platform based? Discussion in open... Susan Groover, List Admin. -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/08/2020 08:05:10
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Death of Eliza Maude Walton and/or Able Carey Walton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeggyGordon88 Surnames: Walton/Beggs/Twitchell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/785.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for all this information. I had wondered if Able Carey Walton had died in 1923. As for Maude Elizabeth, that would be his daughter-in-law. Eliza Maude Walton nee Beggs was his wife, born Mar 1839. Is she in the cemetery? Would be great to know if she was born Ireland (I think so) or in Indiana as per 1900 census. Able must have had a previous wife to Eliza, as on the 1900 census it says they are married 9 years and have 3 children. That puts the marriage abt 1891 but the 2 children on the census were Corena born 1878 and Carl born 1887. Carl married Maude Elizabeth. I don't think Corena ever married. I wonder if Able's first wife was a Twitchell as on the 1880 census, he has a brother-in-law Dave Twitchell. Thanks again Peggy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    06/05/2014 04:58:14
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Death of Eliza Maude Walton and/or Able Carey Walton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: UN6094 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/785.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "New Branches from Old Trees", a New History of Wabaunsee County, published by Wabaunsee County Historical Society, several years ago, shows Harveyville Cemetery, Plumb Township, a Carey W. Walton, 1842-1923, Veteran-Civil War. Also, Maude Elizabeth Walton, 1887-1949 in same cemetery. Both on Page 79 of the book. There are additional Walton's in the cemetery. Page 665 of the book tells about Morris Walton of Columbianna County, Ohio, and his two sons, Eli and Able Carey, came to Kansas in 1858 and settled near Auburn, KS. Morris return to Ohio to get the rest of his family. His wife and three sons, Alonzo, Marcina, and Theodore, and a daughter, Josephine, came to KS in 1959 and settled in Harveyville. The two older boys, Eli and Carey, had joined the Army. While they were serving in the Army the large stone house was built just east of downtown area. This was where Oma Gookins Helnlein, Morris Walton's granddaughter was born. After the war Eli and Carey made their home with their parents until they were married and then lived on farms east of Harveyville. Josephine, the only daughter of the Walton's, was married to Asa Gookins, who came here from Indiana. They had three childre: Oma, Orind and Theodore. Oma married Charles Heinlein and lived in Harveyville where she celebrated her 191st birthday July 16, 1975. She passed away in December of 1975. She had one daughter, Pearl Newell, who is married to Owen Newell, who also live in Harveyville. The Walton families were among the very earliest settlers in the Harveyville community. There is additional information about the Walton family in the book, but I think you should try to get in contact with Pearl Newell. Whoops, that won't work either, but there are other Newell's still in Harveyville. Pearl Newell Born: Jun 30, 1901 Deceased: Sep, 1986 Location: Harveyville, KS Pearl was born June 30th, 1901. September, 1986 Pearl Newell passed away in Harveyville, Kansas at the age of 85. Carol (Songs) Hansing, born and raised in Wabaunsee County, Kansas living in California now. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    06/05/2014 03:50:42
    1. [KSWABAUN] Death of Eliza Maude Walton and/or Able Carey Walton
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeggyGordon88 Surnames: Walton/Beggs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/785/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eliza and Carey Walton were on the 1920 census in Harveyville, Plumb Township, Wabaunsee, Kansas. Able was born in Ohio in 1843 and Eliza Maude Walton nee Beggs was born in Ireland (some sources say Indiana) in 1839. Thinking they probably died soon after the 1920 census. I would dearly love some help to find their deaths. Thank you very much. Peggy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    06/05/2014 01:11:36
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Death of Eliza Maude Walton and/or Able Carey Walton
    2. Carol
    3. "New Branches from Old Trees", a New History of Wabaunsee County, published by Wabaunsee County Historical Society, several years ago, shows Harveyville Cemetery, Plumb Township, a Carey W. Walton, 1842-1923, Veteran-Civil War. Also, Maude Elizabeth Walton, 1887-1949 in same cemetery. Both on Page 79 of the book. There are additional Walton's in the cemetery. Page 665 of the book tells about Morris Walton of Columbianna County, Ohio, and his two sons, Eli and Able Carey, came to Kansas in 1858 and settled near Auburn, KS. Morris return to Ohio to get the rest of his family. His wife and three sons, Alonzo, Marcina, and Theodore, and a daughter, Josephine, came to KS in 1959 and settled in Harveyville. The two older boys, Eli and Carey, had joined the Army. While they were serving in the Army the large stone house was built just east of downtown area. This was where Oma Gookins Helnlein, Morris Walton's granddaughter was born. After the war Eli and Carey made their home with their parents until they were married and then lived on farms east of Harveyville. Josephine, the only daughter of the Walton's, was married to Asa Gookins, who came here from Indiana. They had three childre: Oma, Orind and Theodore. Oma married Charles Heinlein and lived in Harveyville where she celebrated her 191st birthday July 16, 1975. She passed away in December of 1975. She had one daughter, Pearl Newell, who is married to Owen Newell, who also live in Harveyville. The Walton families were among the very earliest settlers in the Harveyville community. There is additional information about the Walton family in the book, but I think you should try to get in contact with Pearl Newell. Whoops, that won't work either, but there are other Newell's still in Harveyville. Carol (Songs) Hansing, living in California, but grew up in Wabaunsee County, Kansas. Pearl Newell * Born: Jun 30, 1901 * Deceased: Sep, 1986 * Location: Harveyville, KS Pearl was born June 30th, 1901. September, 1986 Pearl Newell passed away in Harveyville, Kansas at the age of 85. ________________________________ From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: KSWABAUN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:11 PM Subject: [KSWABAUN] Death of Eliza Maude Walton and/or Able Carey Walton This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeggyGordon88 Surnames: Walton/Beggs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/785/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eliza and Carey Walton were on the 1920 census in Harveyville, Plumb Township, Wabaunsee, Kansas.  Able was born in Ohio in 1843 and Eliza Maude Walton nee Beggs was born in Ireland (some sources say Indiana) in 1839.  Thinking they probably died soon after the 1920 census. I would dearly love some help to find their deaths. Thank you very much. Peggy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSWABAUN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2014 08:43:31
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Tucker Family
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NHolder10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/23.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have information about this family if you are still interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    02/23/2014 03:04:04
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] FINK, HEIDEMANN, BOCK, GNADT
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rclarkh Surnames: Fink Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/210.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am part of the Finks of Kansas from Alma as my grandparents and mother were there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    01/10/2014 12:05:36
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Schmanke
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: slesline Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/27.48.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sibyl, I know this post was a long time ago. If you have any other Schmanke information I would be interested. I am trying to locate information about my ggrandfather August W Schmanke who settled in Alma around 1878. I'm trying to connect the Schmankes as cousins but have had no luck so far. There are 2 August Schmankes.....August W (my ggrandfather) and August A. I had thought maybe Albert was a brother because Albert Schmanke and Mrs Albert Schmanke signed my fathers baptismal certificate but I seem to be going in circles. Please contact me if you have any information. Sally Lesline slesline@wamego.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    01/02/2014 09:43:05
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Phyllis Jane CARSON DAVIS
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: slesline Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/781.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you haven't tried yet, the Alma Signal Enterprise should have an obit. You can find information at the Alma Library if you haven't been able to find it listed any place else. You may have to dig it out but it should be there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    01/02/2014 08:57:31
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Charley and Emaline Clark
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDD44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/254.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am related to Sheriden C Clark who was married to Catherine Isabell Fauerbach Clark. I am wondering if you have any infromation on Sheriden C Clark? I know he was born in1912 and passed in 1932. I was told by his daughter Lottie that he was called Sanke and that I was named for him by my father William Clark (son of Henry Clark, brother of Lottie married to Ruth Honnell, they lived in Paxico and had a junk yard.) Also that he loved Lilac bushs. I meat Lottie twice on my heritage trips. But no one knew any more about Sanke......If you have anything.....let me know...or if I can add anything from my records I will be happy to share. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2013 02:34:56
    1. [KSWABAUN] George R. Pugh - information
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kridle66 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/783/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm searching for George R. Pugh's death date and place of burial. George Rudolph Pugh born: 23 March 1865 Doniphan County, Kansas Parents: George J and Virginia Strange Pugh Married: Eunice Etherton - Maple Hill, Kansas - need date He was living with Eunice in the 1920 census records for Shawnee County, Kansas, but in 1930 he is not in the home and it has she is a widow. But I found a George Pugh in the 1925, 1930, and 1940 census records living in Valley Falls, Jefferson County, Kansas which shows that he is a widower. I'm not sure if this is the George Pugh that I'm looking for or not. The family rumor was that George left Eunice. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/14/2013 03:47:49
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Matthew & Wilimina Fooks
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nsunset Surnames: Fooks, Dailey, Reed, Kirkendoll, Stoneking, Miller, Larson. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/760.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This message has been here for some time. 2007 is a long time ago. Are you still interested in Matthew & Wilimina Fooks? I know Matthew Fooks to have married several times: (1) Wilhelmina Larson is the first. (2) Rachel Jane Reed is the second. (3) Mary Mariah Dailey is the third. (4) Ethel Kirkendoll is the fourth. He killed: (a) George Miller, his neighbor in Alma, Kansas. (b) the third wife claiming his gun went off accidentally while cleaning it. (c) Mr. Stoneking, a neighbor at one time in Oklahoma (O.T.) (d) the second wife died under unusual circumstances according to their neighbors (e) & his death certificate states that he killed himself?? Before I started to research Matthew, no one in my family appeared to know about Wilhelmena, but they would not tell many in the family what they knew because of the notorious character of the man. A person can read the Wichita, Kansas newspapers in 1903 to find more on the Stoneking killing. He is one of my great grandfathers. I hope you are still researching. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/03/2013 11:43:32
    1. Re: [KSWABAUN] Birk family lost in Kansas
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wurzeln Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.wabaunsee/186.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bertha Wilhelmina Ringel Birk was my grandmother's sister. (Augusta Marie Ida Ringel Terrass) As a result, while I am not a Birk myself, I have a number of Birk's on my family tree, including Bertha's children and grandchildren. I know it's been quite a long time since you posted your message, and I hope you found all of these people long since. But if you haven't reply to this post, and I will send you a link to the Birk branch of my tree. Best Regards, Bonnie Fullerton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/18/2013 11:13:17