I think I found THE answer to why the 5th Illinois Cav settled in Salina. In searching Bob VanDyne's book, mentioned in previous message, I found that W. C. Addison, age 43, born Scotland, served in Company K of the 5th Illinois Cav. The Salina Town founders were all from Randolph County Illinois and most were related by blood or marriage. The Addison family, of Randolph Co. IL, was related by blood and marriage to at least 3 of the town founders, the two Phillips brothers, and their brother-in-law Alexander Campbell. W. C. Tuthill, age 42, born Illinois also served in Company K. He became business partner with A. M. Campbell in Salina. John W. Burke, age 44, born NY, lived in Elm Creek Township, north of Salina. These were the only men identified with Co. K, 5th Illinois Cavalry listed in the VanDyne Book for Saline County. According to the Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System <http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/regiments.cfm> there were 3247 men enlisted in this unit which was organized at Camp Butler, Ills., August 31 to December 30, 1861. kssaline-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (carolbradb@aol.com) > 2. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (Chris & Bill Strickland) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:40:55 -0400 > From: carolbradb@aol.com > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CAD5BA05DF1372-AB0-11C2@FWM-D05.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Bill, > ?? In response to your questions, and Mary's comments, most answers are "YES". > ?? Salina was the last outpost of the railroad for a time, and then it moved further west to Ellsworth County (the next county to the west) because of cattle drives coming up from Texas. Originally, they loaded at the railhead in Abilene. Then the railroad continued west to Salina, which made their route more direct and cut off a couple of days' drive, which meant the cattle arrived better fed and with more weight on them. Soon the railhead was taken another 35 miles west to the area of Ellsworth, which is directly on the path taken by cattle drives. You can see that highway on maps, marked at Highway 14. And yes, there was a fort there--at the current town of Kanopolis. This was Fort Harker, one of a series of forts built by the cavalry as outposts to guard settlers against Indian attacks. George Custer was the post commander for a time, and colorful figures such as Wild Bill Hickock, Buffalo Bill Cody and Wyatt Earp, actually lived in the town of Ellsworth and at the are! a ! > surrounding Fort Harker. General Custer went AWOL at one time to go back to Fort Riley, 90 miles to the east, to spend a night with his wife. He was chased by a group of soldiers from Fort Harker who were attacked by Indians. Ten of these men were killed. Because he was AWOL and because they were killed, Custer was busted (with pay). > ?? The Butterfield Overland Dispatch stage line (BOD) crossed between the towns of Kanopolis and Ellsworth, thanks in part to the protection offered by the troops at Fort Harker. The Santa Fe Trail ran just a few miles to the south. The California and Oregon Trails had split off a little east of th is area, so there was a lot of protection required by the troops of Fort Harker. > There are lots of interesting facts about this area--you should visit sometime! > Carol Bradbury > (Regards to cousin Mary!) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhonda Kohl <rmk@aye.net> > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:05 pm > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > > > > Bill, > > You bring up valid points that I cannot answer. I, too, am seeking "why > Saline?" and not some other county. Do not know that yet, but if I find > out, will let you know. > > Rhonda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > > > >> Mary Douglass wrote: >> >> >>> Read your history books! >>> >>> >> Very much aware of history books AND the Homestead Act -- what I want >> to know is what was it about Saline County specifically that a whole >> group of 5th Illinois Cavalry found so attractive? >> >> Why Saline County instead of say Morris County? It wasn't because I-70 >> and I-135 met at Salina. Was it the first place on some trail that >> looked like home? Was it the last place before the flats of western >> Kansas? Was there a fort there for protection from Indians? A railroad? >> Were there even Indians there? Did a beloved Capt of the Illinois 5th >> settle there first? Maybe he was assigned to the fort? Don't mind the >> WAG-ing, just giving possible examples ... >> >> " ... In the spring of 1859, a great stream of fortune seekers passed >> through Salina on their way to the newly discovered auriferous fields of >> Pike's Peak. Salina, at that time, was the westernmost station on the >> Smoky Hill route to the Far West ... When Kansas was admitted, as a >> State, into the Union, in January. 1861, the population of Saline >> County, all told, did not exceed,. if it reached 150 souls ... The years >> of the war were years of little or no progress in the county, and, in >> truth, things were rather retrogressive than progressive, and in 1865, >> when those who had gone to the war from Salina returned, they found the >> town in a sadly dilapidated condition. New life and energy, however, >> were instilled into the people, and in a short time the place once more >> became prosperous. Few settlers, however, came to the county, but one by >> one they commenced dropping in ... In 1868 the >> > tide of immigration > >> turned towards Saline County [Why?], and a great many settlers located >> in the county during the year. They came by families and they came by >> colonies, and a great many came singly and alone ... In 1870 another >> colony came from Henry County Ills., under the leadership of Eric Forse. >> There were about seventy- five, all told, in this colony, most of whom >> located in Falun Township ..." -- William G. Cutler's History of the >> State of Kansas, http://www.kancoll.org/books/cutler/ >> >> I, and apparently others, were just hoping that some participant in this >> discussion might know what attracted folks to Saline County instead of >> someplace else, and that maybe they would willingly share this >> information instead of adding it to my research burden. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Bill Strickland >> Oregon City, OR >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 >> 5:58 AM >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:32 -0700 > From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <48B45834.7010007@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > carol wrote: > > >> There are lots of interesting facts about this area--you should visit sometime! >> >> > Maybe, Lord willing, it may happen someday -- most of my Kansas time > gets spent down around Cowley County though. > > Thanks for all the great info! > > Bill Strickland > Oregon City, OR > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KSSALINE list administrator, send an email to > KSSALINE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KSSALINE mailing list, send an email to KSSALINE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KSSALINE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 10 > *************************************** > > -- Mary Clement Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist www.historical-matters.com A Guide to Genealogical & Historical Research in Kansas is now available. 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Having delved into this question more seriously of late I offer these suggestions for "Why Salina?". 1. The end of the rail reached Salina in 1867 making travel from the east easier. 2. By 1867 Salina had a newspaper that touted settlement here. The newspaper was circulated in eastern states, particularly Illinois. 3. The "Salina Town Company" at one time offered free town lots, but I don't know how long that practice lasted. 4. The railroad companies were heavily recruiting people from the eastern US and from Europe to settle on the railroad land grants in the area. Land was selling for about $2.00 and acre and many veterans were looking for a fresh start after the CW. 5. By the end of the war, most of the Indian attacks had ended and it was safe to settle here. 6. Almost every able-bodied man from Saline County served in the Union Army. I would imagine they talked about their new homes in this lovely valley while sitting around camp fires. The 1885 Kansas Decennial Census asked for military service because of the 1883 federal pensioner's act. This census asked for the usual name, age, place of birth, then asked for Regiment and Company, Special Notations such as rank, injuries, etc, and Prisoner of War (in what prison). This census [and the rest of Kansas Decennial censuses] is now available on Ancestry.com. or you may request via interlibrary loan from the Kansas State Historical Society, a microfilmed county census. Using the 1885 Kansas Decennial Census, Robert VanDyne wrote /Kansas Settlers of the Grand Army of the Republic 1885 , Dickinson, Ellsworth, Lincoln, McPherson, Ottawa & Saline Counties/ [no date of publication] available from the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society for $18.00 plus sales tax and shipping. The book is indexed by name, but not by regiment. [Greetings to Cousin Carol!] > Few settlers, however, came to the county, but one by > > one they commenced dropping in ... In 1868 the > > tide of immigration > >> > turned towards Saline County [Why?], and a great many settlers located >> > in the county during the year. They came by families and they came by >> > colonies, and a great many came singly and alone ... -- Mary Clement Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist www.historical-matters.com A Guide to Genealogical & Historical Research in Kansas is now available. Contact me for pricing options.

Bill, ?? In response to your questions, and Mary's comments, most answers are "YES". ?? Salina was the last outpost of the railroad for a time, and then it moved further west to Ellsworth County (the next county to the west) because of cattle drives coming up from Texas. Originally, they loaded at the railhead in Abilene. Then the railroad continued west to Salina, which made their route more direct and cut off a couple of days' drive, which meant the cattle arrived better fed and with more weight on them. Soon the railhead was taken another 35 miles west to the area of Ellsworth, which is directly on the path taken by cattle drives. You can see that highway on maps, marked at Highway 14. And yes, there was a fort there--at the current town of Kanopolis. This was Fort Harker, one of a series of forts built by the cavalry as outposts to guard settlers against Indian attacks. George Custer was the post commander for a time, and colorful figures such as Wild Bill Hickock, Buffalo Bill Cody and Wyatt Earp, actually lived in the town of Ellsworth and at the area ! surrounding Fort Harker. General Custer went AWOL at one time to go back to Fort Riley, 90 miles to the east, to spend a night with his wife. He was chased by a group of soldiers from Fort Harker who were attacked by Indians. Ten of these men were killed. Because he was AWOL and because they were killed, Custer was busted (with pay). ?? The Butterfield Overland Dispatch stage line (BOD) crossed between the towns of Kanopolis and Ellsworth, thanks in part to the protection offered by the troops at Fort Harker. The Santa Fe Trail ran just a few miles to the south. The California and Oregon Trails had split off a little east of th is area, so there was a lot of protection required by the troops of Fort Harker. There are lots of interesting facts about this area--you should visit sometime! Carol Bradbury (Regards to cousin Mary!) -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Kohl <rmk@aye.net> To: kssaline@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:05 pm Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry Bill, You bring up valid points that I cannot answer. I, too, am seeking "why Saline?" and not some other county. Do not know that yet, but if I find out, will let you know. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > Mary Douglass wrote: > >>Read your history books! >> > Very much aware of history books AND the Homestead Act -- what I want > to know is what was it about Saline County specifically that a whole > group of 5th Illinois Cavalry found so attractive? > > Why Saline County instead of say Morris County? It wasn't because I-70 > and I-135 met at Salina. Was it the first place on some trail that > looked like home? Was it the last place before the flats of western > Kansas? Was there a fort there for protection from Indians? A railroad? > Were there even Indians there? Did a beloved Capt of the Illinois 5th > settle there first? Maybe he was assigned to the fort? Don't mind the > WAG-ing, just giving possible examples ... > > " ... In the spring of 1859, a great stream of fortune seekers passed > through Salina on their way to the newly discovered auriferous fields of > Pike's Peak. Salina, at that time, was the westernmost station on the > Smoky Hill route to the Far West ... When Kansas was admitted, as a > State, into the Union, in January. 1861, the population of Saline > County, all told, did not exceed,. if it reached 150 souls ... The years > of the war were years of little or no progress in the county, and, in > truth, things were rather retrogressive than progressive, and in 1865, > when those who had gone to the war from Salina returned, they found the > town in a sadly dilapidated condition. New life and energy, however, > were instilled into the people, and in a short time the place once more > became prosperous. Few settlers, however, came to the county, but one by > one they commenced dropping in ... In 1868 the tide of immigration > turned towards Saline County [Why?], and a great many settlers located > in the county during the year. They came by families and they came by > colonies, and a great many came singly and alone ... In 1870 another > colony came from Henry County Ills., under the leadership of Eric Forse. > There were about seventy- five, all told, in this colony, most of whom > located in Falun Township ..." -- William G. Cutler's History of the > State of Kansas, http://www.kancoll.org/books/cutler/ > > I, and apparently others, were just hoping that some participant in this > discussion might know what attracted folks to Saline County instead of > someplace else, and that maybe they would willingly share this > information instead of adding it to my research burden. > > Thank you, > > Bill Strickland > Oregon City, OR > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:58 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

carol wrote: >There are lots of interesting facts about this area--you should visit sometime! > Maybe, Lord willing, it may happen someday -- most of my Kansas time gets spent down around Cowley County though. Thanks for all the great info! Bill Strickland Oregon City, OR

May I recommend Community of Kinship for your reading pleasure. This little book shows how and why entire communities moved from one place to another. Civil War units were often formed in single neighborhoods. The veterans forged strong bonds with one another. After the war, they were mostly young men in search of a new start. The Homestead Act made provision for Union veterans to use their military service to cut time off the required residency requirement. Saline County is well watered and very fertile. Maybe Saline County reminded them of home? Salina sits where the military road from Fort Riley runs southwest ward and crosses the Smoky Hill River. Salina was begun in 1858 but didn't flourish until after the railroad came in 1867. Salina was settled by men from Randolph County, Illinois. The railroads were offering reduced transportation to settlers on the railroad land grants. Transportation west was fairly easy [compared to a covered wagon] and cheap. Saline County was on the edge of the frontier, but easily accessible. You had a town nearby to supply whatever commodities you needed. Just some thoughts for your consideration. -- Mary Clement Douglass, CG Your Kansas research specialist www.historical-matters.com A Guide to Genealogical & Historical Research in Kansas is now available. Contact me for pricing options.

I've been following this discussion, and am interested in hearing more about it. My maternal G-Grandfather was Conrad FUCHS, born in Germany in 1832. I don't know exactly when he immigrated to the USA, but first found mention of him in St. Clair Co., Illinois when he married Phillipina SCHWARZTRAUBER. >From Nov 1861 to Jan 1865, he served in the Civil War, Co. "C", 49th Illinois Volunteers. They had 5 children (all born in St. Clair Co., IL), then sometime after 1873 migrated to Salina, Kansas, where the family is enumerated in the 1880 Census. Conrad died in Salina in 1886. I've often wondered why the family left Illinois for Kansas, thought he possibly got the property in Kansas as payment for his service, but don't know for sure. As mentioned, I'm definitely interested in learning more about the Civil War Veteran migration from Illinois to Kansas, particularly as it relates to my G-Grandparents. Any information greatly appreciated. Art Burch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Kohl" <rmk@aye.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > After the war, the government offered veterans cheap land west of the > Mississippi. Kansas became known as the veteran state because so many > moved > there. Soldiers also moved in large numbers to NE, ND, CA, and > Washington. > > Rhonda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > > >> Rhonda Kohl wrote: >> >>>Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the >>>1870s. >>> >> >> Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, >> especially groups, move to Saline County? >> >> Bill Strickland >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 >> 5:58 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, You bring up valid points that I cannot answer. I, too, am seeking "why Saline?" and not some other county. Do not know that yet, but if I find out, will let you know. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > Mary Douglass wrote: > >>Read your history books! >> > Very much aware of history books AND the Homestead Act -- what I want > to know is what was it about Saline County specifically that a whole > group of 5th Illinois Cavalry found so attractive? > > Why Saline County instead of say Morris County? It wasn't because I-70 > and I-135 met at Salina. Was it the first place on some trail that > looked like home? Was it the last place before the flats of western > Kansas? Was there a fort there for protection from Indians? A railroad? > Were there even Indians there? Did a beloved Capt of the Illinois 5th > settle there first? Maybe he was assigned to the fort? Don't mind the > WAG-ing, just giving possible examples ... > > " ... In the spring of 1859, a great stream of fortune seekers passed > through Salina on their way to the newly discovered auriferous fields of > Pike's Peak. Salina, at that time, was the westernmost station on the > Smoky Hill route to the Far West ... When Kansas was admitted, as a > State, into the Union, in January. 1861, the population of Saline > County, all told, did not exceed,. if it reached 150 souls ... The years > of the war were years of little or no progress in the county, and, in > truth, things were rather retrogressive than progressive, and in 1865, > when those who had gone to the war from Salina returned, they found the > town in a sadly dilapidated condition. New life and energy, however, > were instilled into the people, and in a short time the place once more > became prosperous. Few settlers, however, came to the county, but one by > one they commenced dropping in ... In 1868 the tide of immigration > turned towards Saline County [Why?], and a great many settlers located > in the county during the year. They came by families and they came by > colonies, and a great many came singly and alone ... In 1870 another > colony came from Henry County Ills., under the leadership of Eric Forse. > There were about seventy- five, all told, in this colony, most of whom > located in Falun Township ..." -- William G. Cutler's History of the > State of Kansas, http://www.kancoll.org/books/cutler/ > > I, and apparently others, were just hoping that some participant in this > discussion might know what attracted folks to Saline County instead of > someplace else, and that maybe they would willingly share this > information instead of adding it to my research burden. > > Thank you, > > Bill Strickland > Oregon City, OR > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:58 AM > >

After the war, the government offered veterans cheap land west of the Mississippi. Kansas became known as the veteran state because so many moved there. Soldiers also moved in large numbers to NE, ND, CA, and Washington. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > Rhonda Kohl wrote: > >>Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the >>1870s. >> > > Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, > especially groups, move to Saline County? > > Bill Strickland > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:58 AM > >

Mary Douglass wrote: >Read your history books! > Very much aware of history books AND the Homestead Act -- what I want to know is what was it about Saline County specifically that a whole group of 5th Illinois Cavalry found so attractive? Why Saline County instead of say Morris County? It wasn't because I-70 and I-135 met at Salina. Was it the first place on some trail that looked like home? Was it the last place before the flats of western Kansas? Was there a fort there for protection from Indians? A railroad? Were there even Indians there? Did a beloved Capt of the Illinois 5th settle there first? Maybe he was assigned to the fort? Don't mind the WAG-ing, just giving possible examples ... " ... In the spring of 1859, a great stream of fortune seekers passed through Salina on their way to the newly discovered auriferous fields of Pike's Peak. Salina, at that time, was the westernmost station on the Smoky Hill route to the Far West ... When Kansas was admitted, as a State, into the Union, in January. 1861, the population of Saline County, all told, did not exceed,. if it reached 150 souls ... The years of the war were years of little or no progress in the county, and, in truth, things were rather retrogressive than progressive, and in 1865, when those who had gone to the war from Salina returned, they found the town in a sadly dilapidated condition. New life and energy, however, were instilled into the people, and in a short time the place once more became prosperous. Few settlers, however, came to the county, but one by one they commenced dropping in ... In 1868 the tide of immigration turned towards Saline County [Why?], and a great many settlers located in the county during the year. They came by families and they came by colonies, and a great many came singly and alone ... In 1870 another colony came from Henry County Ills., under the leadership of Eric Forse. There were about seventy- five, all told, in this colony, most of whom located in Falun Township ..." -- William G. Cutler's History of the State of Kansas, http://www.kancoll.org/books/cutler/ I, and apparently others, were just hoping that some participant in this discussion might know what attracted folks to Saline County instead of someplace else, and that maybe they would willingly share this information instead of adding it to my research burden. Thank you, Bill Strickland Oregon City, OR

Read your history books! The Homestead Act of 1862 gave many people, young and old, the chance to start over and make their fortunes. You could buy land at $1.25 an acre or file a homestead claim with the federal government for a nominal filing fee, but you had to stay on the land and make required improvements to keep it. Railroad companies recruited heavily in Europe to settle farmers on their land grants. Mary Douglass, CG kssaline-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: john w. burke - Mrs (Rhonda Kohl) > 2. 5th Illinois Cavalry (Rhonda Kohl) > 3. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (Chris & Bill Strickland) > 4. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (Mary) > 5. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (Chris & Bill Strickland) > 6. Re: 5th Illinois Cavalry (me.allen@juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:25:47 -0400 > From: "Rhonda Kohl" <rmk@aye.net> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] john w. burke - Mrs > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001801c8ffb4$5ba2ef20$0201a8c0@mine> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you so much for the obit of Mary Burke. I did not know John had > married a Mann. He served with John and Calvin Mann in Company K during the > war. Thanks again. > > Rhonda Kohl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] john w. burke - Mrs > > > >> http://www.kaycounty.info/pgs/ObitsB/BurkeM_Obit.htm >> >> Funeral of Mrs. Burke >> >> The funeral services of Mrs. Mary Burke, who died of cancer of the >> stomach on Friday last were conducted by Rev. Jas. Craighead at the home >> of A. M. Hunter Sunday morning at 9 o'clock. At the conclusion of the >> services the body was taken to the Frisco depot and at 10 o'clock Mr. >> Burke, the husband of the dead lady left for his home in Salina, Kansas. >> A permit was received from the Kansas State Board of Health late >> Saturday evening giving Mr. Burke permission to remove the remains to >> their former home in Salina. The bereaved family have our heartfelt >> sympathy in their sorrow. The following sketch of Mrs. Burke's life may >> prove interesting to some of our readers. >> Mary E. Burke was born near Chester, Randolph county, Ill., May 6, 1848 >> and died Jan. 19, 1900, aged 52 years eight months and 13 days. She was >> married to John W. Burke June 15, 1866, who with five children born to >> them still surviving her. The children are Mrs. Ella B. Hunter, of >> Blackwell. Arthur H., Elwood J. Howard C. and Edward G. Burke of her >> home near Salina, Kan. She is also survived by an aged father and two >> sisters of Salina, Kan., her mother having preceded her to the better >> home in August last. She united with the Presbyterian church very early >> in life and for about forty years has been a faithful loving member of >> the body >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 >> 5:58 AM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:27:00 -0400 > From: "Rhonda Kohl" <rmk@aye.net> > Subject: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: <KSSALINE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c8ffbc$e8ec1660$0201a8c0@mine> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm looking for descendents of men who served in the 5th Illinois Cavalry during the Civil War. Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the 1870s. I am hoping to locate photographs, diaries, or letters of these men for a history I am writing about the regiment. Please contact me at: 5Illinois@gmail.com if you have any information. Thank you. > > Rhonda M. Kohl > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:56:51 -0700 > From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <48A722F3.2040200@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Rhonda Kohl wrote: > > >> Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the 1870s. >> >> > > Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, > especially groups, move to Saline County? > > Bill Strickland > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:34:57 -0500 > From: "Mary" <mertzeng@wmtel.net> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A6C98966B31B4497926186BAEF8BEE30@MaryPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I'm interested in the answer to this too.. > > My Gr Gr Grandparents left Mercer County Illinois and went to this area > during the 1870s too.. > but Gr Gr Grandfather-Robert T Forrester was in the 30th Illinois company A > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > > > >> Rhonda Kohl wrote: >> >> >>> Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the >>> 1870s. >>> >>> >> Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, >> especially groups, move to Saline County? >> >> Bill Strickland >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:50:03 -0700 > From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <48A775BB.8060501@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Mary wrote: > > >> My Gr Gr Grandparents left Mercer County Illinois and went to this area >> during the 1870s too.. >> >> > My Saline County folks are Casebolts, probably from Story County, Iowa, > but I do have Ebner uncles that were in the Civil War from Mercer > County, Illinois -- the world just keeps getting smaller, doesn't it? > > My Aikins family, also from Mercer County, simply were young boys and > girls and older men and I haven't seen any record of Civil War service > for them. > > fwiw, > > Bill Strickland > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:08:25 GMT > From: "me.allen@juno.com" <me.allen@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > To: kssaline@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20080816.210825.10546.2@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > This would interest me, too. Several of my ancestors moved to Salina, KS from eastern Iowa. However, they previously lived in western Ill, having moved there from NYS. Their name was Banks. One was in an Ill regiment and another in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War. I'll have to dig out my files to find the specific regiments. But I have wondered why they settled in Kansas. One cousin said she's been told the families traveled there by covered wagon. > Mary Emma > > > Mary Emma Allen > Author/Speaker; www.onebooktwobook.com > www.quiltingandpatchwork.com & www.alzheimersnotes.com > www.homebiznotes.com > me.allen@juno.com > ____________________________________________________________ > Free quote and debt consolidation information. 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This would interest me, too. Several of my ancestors moved to Salina, KS from eastern Iowa. However, they previously lived in western Ill, having moved there from NYS. Their name was Banks. One was in an Ill regiment and another in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War. I'll have to dig out my files to find the specific regiments. But I have wondered why they settled in Kansas. One cousin said she's been told the families traveled there by covered wagon. Mary Emma Mary Emma Allen Author/Speaker; www.onebooktwobook.com www.quiltingandpatchwork.com & www.alzheimersnotes.com www.homebiznotes.com me.allen@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m2XiNlCZbgE4YbJxKMiMZxSMDxgchpJK7h7pZG3RWQ2VnjJ/

Mary wrote: >My Gr Gr Grandparents left Mercer County Illinois and went to this area >during the 1870s too.. > My Saline County folks are Casebolts, probably from Story County, Iowa, but I do have Ebner uncles that were in the Civil War from Mercer County, Illinois -- the world just keeps getting smaller, doesn't it? My Aikins family, also from Mercer County, simply were young boys and girls and older men and I haven't seen any record of Civil War service for them. fwiw, Bill Strickland

I'm interested in the answer to this too.. My Gr Gr Grandparents left Mercer County Illinois and went to this area during the 1870s too.. but Gr Gr Grandfather-Robert T Forrester was in the 30th Illinois company A Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] 5th Illinois Cavalry > Rhonda Kohl wrote: > >>Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the >>1870s. >> > > Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, > especially groups, move to Saline County? > > Bill Strickland > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for descendents of men who served in the 5th Illinois Cavalry during the Civil War. Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the 1870s. I am hoping to locate photographs, diaries, or letters of these men for a history I am writing about the regiment. Please contact me at: 5Illinois@gmail.com if you have any information. Thank you. Rhonda M. Kohl

Rhonda Kohl wrote: >Many of the soldiers moved into Kansas, especially Saline County, in the 1870s. > Do you know any specific reasons for this migration? ie, why did folks, especially groups, move to Saline County? Bill Strickland

Thank you so much for the obit of Mary Burke. I did not know John had married a Mann. He served with John and Calvin Mann in Company K during the war. Thanks again. Rhonda Kohl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier@earthlink.net> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] john w. burke - Mrs > http://www.kaycounty.info/pgs/ObitsB/BurkeM_Obit.htm > > Funeral of Mrs. Burke > > The funeral services of Mrs. Mary Burke, who died of cancer of the > stomach on Friday last were conducted by Rev. Jas. Craighead at the home > of A. M. Hunter Sunday morning at 9 o'clock. At the conclusion of the > services the body was taken to the Frisco depot and at 10 o'clock Mr. > Burke, the husband of the dead lady left for his home in Salina, Kansas. > A permit was received from the Kansas State Board of Health late > Saturday evening giving Mr. Burke permission to remove the remains to > their former home in Salina. The bereaved family have our heartfelt > sympathy in their sorrow. The following sketch of Mrs. Burke's life may > prove interesting to some of our readers. > Mary E. Burke was born near Chester, Randolph county, Ill., May 6, 1848 > and died Jan. 19, 1900, aged 52 years eight months and 13 days. She was > married to John W. Burke June 15, 1866, who with five children born to > them still surviving her. The children are Mrs. Ella B. Hunter, of > Blackwell. Arthur H., Elwood J. Howard C. and Edward G. Burke of her > home near Salina, Kan. She is also survived by an aged father and two > sisters of Salina, Kan., her mother having preceded her to the better > home in August last. She united with the Presbyterian church very early > in life and for about forty years has been a faithful loving member of > the body > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:58 AM >

Thanks for the advice, Pam. John W. Burke died 2 Jan. 1935. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela J. Graf" <familyattic@hotmail.com> To: <kssaline@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [KSSALINE] john w. burke > Rhonda, > > If you want an obit, I will need a better date of death than just the > year. > There are are to many days in a year to search like that. > > Pamela > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Rhonda Kohl" <rmk@aye.net> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:00 PM > To: <KSSALINE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [KSSALINE] john w. burke > >> Looking for information about John W. Burke, originally born in NY, then >> moved to Illinois prior to the Civil War. He served in the 5th Illinois >> Cavalry during the war, then moved to Elm Creek, Saline County, KS in >> 1875. I know he served in the state legislature in 1909 and 1914. He >> died in 1935. I am writing a history of the Fifth Illinois Cavalry, and >> John Burke left a number of letters to his sister Ellen Hudson during the >> war, which I have used in this history. A member of the family donated >> these letters to the Illinois State Library. Since John wrote about his >> war experiences, I want to donate more space about him in the history, >> giving the readers an idea of this man. If you have any information, I >> would be most grateful to hear it. If anyone can provide his obit--that >> would be wonderful too. You can reach me at: 5illinois@gmail.com >> >> Thanks, >> Rhonda Kohl >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1613 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:58 AM > >

Looking for information about John W. Burke, originally born in NY, then moved to Illinois prior to the Civil War. He served in the 5th Illinois Cavalry during the war, then moved to Elm Creek, Saline County, KS in 1875. I know he served in the state legislature in 1909 and 1914. He died in 1935. I am writing a history of the Fifth Illinois Cavalry, and John Burke left a number of letters to his sister Ellen Hudson during the war, which I have used in this history. A member of the family donated these letters to the Illinois State Library. Since John wrote about his war experiences, I want to donate more space about him in the history, giving the readers an idea of this man. If you have any information, I would be most grateful to hear it. If anyone can provide his obit--that would be wonderful too. You can reach me at: 5illinois@gmail.com Thanks, Rhonda Kohl

Rhonda, If you want an obit, I will need a better date of death than just the year. There are are to many days in a year to search like that. Pamela -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rhonda Kohl" <rmk@aye.net> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: <KSSALINE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KSSALINE] john w. burke > Looking for information about John W. Burke, originally born in NY, then > moved to Illinois prior to the Civil War. He served in the 5th Illinois > Cavalry during the war, then moved to Elm Creek, Saline County, KS in > 1875. I know he served in the state legislature in 1909 and 1914. He > died in 1935. I am writing a history of the Fifth Illinois Cavalry, and > John Burke left a number of letters to his sister Ellen Hudson during the > war, which I have used in this history. A member of the family donated > these letters to the Illinois State Library. Since John wrote about his > war experiences, I want to donate more space about him in the history, > giving the readers an idea of this man. If you have any information, I > would be most grateful to hear it. If anyone can provide his obit--that > would be wonderful too. You can reach me at: 5illinois@gmail.com > > Thanks, > Rhonda Kohl > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.kaycounty.info/pgs/ObitsB/BurkeM_Obit.htm also on this webpage: DEATH OF MRS. BURKE The Unexpected Ending of a Noble Life at Blackwell, Oklahoma From Daily Republican-Journal, Salina, Kansas. John W. Burke, in answer to a telegram announcing that Mrs. Burke was lying at the point of death at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Ella B. Hunter, Blackwell, Okla., was to have started south last evening, when a later telegram announced her death. He left for Blackwell last evening. Mrs. Burke has been in delicate health since an attack of hemorrhage of the stomach some time ago, and her relatives have had fears of the ultimate result. Some months ago she went to the home of her daughter hoping to be relieved by the change. On Christmas Mr. Burke was called to Blackwell by the serious sickness of his wife, whom he found much better. On New Years he left her much improved in health, and able to be about. He expected soon to go back and bring her home. The death of Mrs. Burke is a great blow to the family, who have the earnest and loving sympathy of all their many friends in their sudden bereavement. Their sorrow is increased by the fact that Blackwell is at present under quarantine regulations on account of some cases of supposed smallpox in that country, and that the remains will not be brought home at present for interment. Mrs. Burke's final sickness was neuralgia of the stomach. Mrs. Burke, whose maiden name was Mary Ellen Mann, was a daughter of W. Houston and Martha P. Mann. Her mother died last August, and her aged father still survives. She was born near Chester, Randolph county, Illinois, May 6, 1847, and thus was in her 53rd year. She married Mr. John W. Burke, on his return from the war, June 14, 1865, to whom she proved a most excellent wife. One daughter, Mrs. Ella B. Hunter, (Blackwell) and four sons - Arthur H. Elwood, J. C., Howard and Edward G. Burke - survive to mourn the loss of a most noble mother. She was a woman of strong mind and of independent convictions. She became a Christian while young, and united with the church early in life, continuing faithful unto the end. In her demise the Presbyterian church, of which she had so long been an honored member, will suffer a real loss. She was a Christian in heart and in life. She believed in a religion that might be carried along and worn everywhere and at all times. Her motherly ambition was strong to live Christ before her children that she might lead them to live for Him. The family left Illinois and came to Kansas in 1874 and settled on a farm a few miles north of town, where they resided till 1883 when they moved to the farm one mile west of Trenton, which has since been their home. Besides father, husband and children, Mrs. Burke leaves two sisters - Mrs. G. C. Griswold, living four miles north of the city, and Miss Lou L. Mann, matron of the asylum at Ossawatomie. All of these friends share in the tender sympathy of the entire community.