Mary, Census Records after 1880: Could this be the right Harry? Name:   Harry W Shaefer Age in 1910:   38 Estimated birth year:   BirthYear(1910, '38');1871 Birthplace:   Illinois Home in 1910:   NOBLE TWP, DICKINSON, Kansas Race:   White Gender:   Male Series:   T624 Roll:   437 Part:   3 Page:   144B Year:   1910 In the household: Lucy E., Wife 29, Clyde 6, Georgie A. 1 Soundex on that surname in Dickinson Co: Louis C Shafer 1-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '61');1848 New York White Male Louis J Shafer 1-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '26');1883 Kansas White Male Allen P Spahr 1-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '61');1848 Pennsylvania White Male Dan B Schaeffer 1-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '36');1873 Ohio White Male Margaret Shiper 1-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '20');1889   White Female George W Sheffer 2-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '60');1849 Pennsylvania White Male James Speer 2-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '70');1839 Pennsylvania White Male James H Sparrow 3-WD ABILENE, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '38');1871   White Male Philip Schaefer 4-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '25');1884   White Male August Schaeffer 4-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '51');1858 Illinois White Male Henry Schaeffer 4-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '27');1882   White Male August Shaeffer 4-WD HERINGTON, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '51');1858 Illinois White Male Mary Shaffer CENTER TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '76');1833 Pennsylvania White Female Clifford Sipry GARFIELD TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '21');1888 Maryland White Male Harry W Shaefer NOBLE TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '38');1871 Illinois White Male Rollie F Speer RIDGE TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '33');1876 Illinois White Male George Shafer SHERMAN TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '34');1875 Ohio White Male Emanuel Scheaffer UNION TWP, DICKINSON, KS BirthYear(1910, '48');1861 Ohio White Male 1910 Caroline Shafer (soundex) in KS: Caroline Schafer 3-WD LAWRENCE, DOUGLAS, KS BirthYear(1910, '72');1837   White Female Caroline Schaffer ELLIS TWP, ELLIS, KS BirthYear(1910, '63');1846   White Female Caroline Shafer AGENCY TWP, OSAGE, KS BirthYear(1910, '62');1847 Iowa White Female Name:   Caroline Shafer Age in 1910:   62 Estimated birth year:   BirthYear(1910, '62');1847 Birthplace:   Iowa Home in 1910:   AGENCY TWP, OSAGE, Kansas Race:   White Gender:   Female Series:   T624 Roll:   451 Part:   2 Page:   2A Year:   1910 Don't know if this could be her - She is listed as mother in law in the Albert and Amelia Logan household. (Amelia was listed as born in MO?) The other two listings don't seem to be her. The birth year is way off on one and the other household -born in Austria. ------------------------- 1920 Name:   Harry Shaffer Age:   AgeWith12ths('48',true);48 years  Estimated birth year:   BirthYear(1920, '48');1871 Birthplace:   Indiana Race:   White Home in 1920:   Chapman, Dickinson, Kansas Roll:   T625_530 Page:   5B ED:   50 Image:   0516 Same household as above, including another daughter (looks like Belle, age 2) Name:   Caroline Schaefer Age:   AgeWith12ths('69',true);69 years  Estimated birth year:   BirthYear(1920, '69');1850 Birthplace:   Ohio Race:   White Home in 1920:   Hutchinson, Reno, Kansas Roll:   T625_546 Page:   9B ED:   176 Image:   0755 ?? - She is listed with son, Harry 46, and granddaugther, Pauline Mills, age 17. ----------------- 1930 Name:   Caroline Shaefer Age:   AgeWith12ths('80',false);80 Estimated birth year:   abt 1850 Birthplace:   Ohio Relation to head-of-house:   Head Race:   White Home in 1930:   Hutchinson, Reno, Kansas Household: Caroline Shaefer Hutchinson, Reno, KS abt 1850 Ohio White Head Leona C Sargent Hutchinson, Reno, KS abt 1874 Iowa White Daughter (Divorced) John S Sargent Hutchinson, Reno, KS abt 1918     Grandson -Couldn't find Harry in 1930 Hope this is of some help, Kay, FL > Subj: [KSReno] J. G. Schaefer (Shafer or Shaffer) and Caroline Kumpf > Date: 1/3/2005 9:59:59 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: mary@houseofgriffin.org > To: KSRENO-L@rootsweb.com > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Westrich, Kumpf > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Vm.2ADE/1294 > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for informaiton on the family of J.G. Shaefer (b. abt 1845 > Bavaria) and Caroline Kumpf (b. Aug 1849 Ohio). They moved from Racine Co., Wi to > Henry Co., Il and then settled in Hutchison, Reno KS about 1880. > They had the following children: > Emma Cecelia b. 26 Oct 1868 Wisconsin > Harry J. b. Apr 1873 Illinois > Leona b. 1874 in Iowa (may have married a man named Miller and then a man > named Sargent) > Francis b. Mar 1880 Kansas > Caroline's brother, August Kumpf was living with them in 1870 and also in > Reno KS during 1880. > Any information is appreciated. > Mary Griffin > >