Thanks for the offer of hard copy -- these are collaterals so just the information is sufficient. Now if you ever happen to stumble across my Roth and Hobbs clans (three sisters married three brothers) I probably will want those. I do have scans of some hard copies that were sent to me from someone else; I really need to post them here. Will put that on my to-do list. Vanette ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com