Hello Margaret.... Using the name that Jackie gave, KINDERKNECHT, I did a search on AltaVista and came up with a couple pages on the Internet with some info on a KINDERKNECHT family that settled primarily around Hays Kansas. A mention is made of St. Peter in Graham County. The sites are at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Brian--Kinderknecht/GENE8-0003.html http://home.earthlink.net/~kinderknecht/ Good luck with your research Bill Sowers >Margaret, >I grew up in Graham Co., & there was a family named KINDERKNEChT, but not >Rinderknecht. It was my understanding, the name (in German) means >Baby-sitter. The Kinderknecht's were from the St. Peter area, south of >Morland. St. Peter is a Volga German community. The family you are >seeking were probably buried in the St. Peter Cemetery, but I don't know >that for sure. > >Jackie Wilson Smith > > > >>Dear List Members, >> I am looking for the burial place of Joseph Rinderknecht b: 1859 d:aft 1933, >> Bertha Rinderknecht 1868-aft 1933, and thier children Frank b: abt 1894, >> Eshter Logston b: abt 1896 and Raymond R Rinderknecht b: 23 Dec 1897. They >> were in Morland, KS in 1933. Any help would be appreciated. >> Margaret > > >==== KSGRAHAM Mailing List ==== >======================== KSGRAHAM mailing list ======================= >Browse the KSGRAHAM-L archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KSGRAHAM-L/ > >============================== >Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM > > Bill and Diana Sowers email: wrs@cjnetworks.com Check out our genealogy pages: Lincoln County Kansas KSGenWeb Project http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/lincoln/index.html Gove County Kansas KSGenWeb Project http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/gove/index.html Allen County Kansas ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ks/county/allen/index.html

Margaret, I grew up in Graham Co., & there was a family named KINDERKNEChT, but not Rinderknecht. It was my understanding, the name (in German) means Baby-sitter. The Kinderknecht's were from the St. Peter area, south of Morland. St. Peter is a Volga German community. The family you are seeking were probably buried in the St. Peter Cemetery, but I don't know that for sure. Jackie Wilson Smith >Dear List Members, > I am looking for the burial place of Joseph Rinderknecht b: 1859 d:aft 1933, > Bertha Rinderknecht 1868-aft 1933, and thier children Frank b: abt 1894, > Eshter Logston b: abt 1896 and Raymond R Rinderknecht b: 23 Dec 1897. They > were in Morland, KS in 1933. Any help would be appreciated. > Margaret

Dear List Members, I am looking for the burial place of Joseph Rinderknecht b: 1859 d:aft 1933, Bertha Rinderknecht 1868-aft 1933, and thier children Frank b: abt 1894, Eshter Logston b: abt 1896 and Raymond R Rinderknecht b: 23 Dec 1897. They were in Morland, KS in 1933. Any help would be appreciated. Margaret

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/Graham?read=6 Surname: ------------------------- Thanks for your info. Angela is my cousin and I didn't have her address. Angela is a great source of information, these are here gr great grandparents too. I will be writing her.

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/Graham?read=5 Surname: ------------------------- Dear Ms Hudson..... The director of the museum at Nicodemus, Angela BATES-TOMPKINS, is related to the BATES family of Nicodemus. There is a short online article on her and the museum at: http://www.kshs.org/wwwwow/wow6.htm You can reach Ms Bates-Tompkins at (snail mail): 907 Hummingbird Rd, Bogue, KS 67625 Two well known books on African Americans in Graham County: Going home to Nicodemus : the story of an African American frontie town and the pioneers who settled it / by Daniel Chu & Bill Shaw (Morristown, N.J. : J. Messner, c1994) Promised land on the Solomon : Black settlement at Nicodemus, Kansas. (Denver, Colo.] : U.S. Dept. of the Interior, National Park Service, Rocky Mountain Region, 1986 Good luck with your research Bill Sowers Graham County KSGenWeb coordinator http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/graham/

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/Graham?read=3 Surname: Bates, Sayers ------------------------- I am looking for detailed info on ancestors located in Nicodemus, Graham Co, Ks.. They are George& Mary Eliza Sayers and Perry and America Bates.

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Obituaries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/GrahamObits?read=10 Surname: Bates, Sayers ------------------------- I am looking for detailed info on ancestors located in Nicodemus, Graham Co, Ks.. They are George& Mary Eliza Sayers and Perry and America Bates.

Hi List, I received this from another mailing list. Hope you'll appreciate it as much as I did. Jackie Ancestors: Now and Then When Stephanie complained because she couldn't find a parking place near the main door to the mall - her great great grandmother had to make her own clothes and grow her own food. When Buffy complained because she had to work five days a week and couldn't go swimming every day - her great great grandmother worked in her garden six days a week. When Clara complained because she couldn't have a new dress for her date on Saturday - her great great grandmother had three dresses, one for weekdays, one for Sunday and one put away for her burial. When Donna complained because it was too warm and humid at the picnic - her great great grandmother cooked and baked for her family over a fireplace, all year round. When Erica complained because she had to walk three blocks to her friend's house - her great great grandmother walked to town, five miles, and to her closest neighbor's house, three miles, and back, carrying her toddler most of the time. When Flora complained because she had three children and only two bedrooms - her great great grandmother raised seven children in a two room log house. When Gayle complained because she had to take time to go to her grandmother's funeral - her great great great grandmother buried her baby in the field back of her house. When Helen complained because her washing machine broke down and she had to go to the Laundromat - her great great great grandmother washed her family's clothes in a wash tub on a scrub board. When Irene complained because she didn't have a computer on which to do her homework - her great great great grandmother taught her children to read from the only book she owned, the family Bible, and taught them to write on a piece of slate. When Joann complained because she didn't get a baby carrier at the shower - her great great great grandmother carried her nursing baby three hundred miles from Virginia to Ohio, and walked all the way. When Kathy complained because her son's job required him to move to Texas - her great great great grandmother knew when her son left, "to seek his fortune in the West," she would probably never see him again. When Linda complained because the store was out of her expensive facial soap - her great great great grandmother used lye soap, which she made herself from fireplace ashes and animal fat. When Melissa complained because the store was out of her favorite brand of plastic diapers - her great great great grandmother had six pieces of cloth for her baby, which she washed as soon as they were soiled, so she would always have a clean one ready. When Nancy complained because her husband had to go to camp for his National Guard service - her great great great grandmother sent her husband off to the Civil War. He never came back. When Olivia complained because she had to feed , water and walk the dog she had begged for - her great great great grandmother fed the pigs and chickens, and milked the cows before she prepared breakfast for her family. When Pamela complained because she didn't have an espresso machine - her great great great grandmother made coffee from chicory. When Roslyn complained because the number she called didn't answer - her great great great grandmother sometimes, if she was lucky, got one letter a year from her family "back East," her only contact with them. When Sharon complained because her wedding ring only had three diamonds - her great great great grandmother sold her wedding ring to buy medicine for her sick babies. When Terri complained because the TV wasn't working - her great great great grandmother watched the sunset for entertainment. When Vivian complained because there was no hot water for her shower - her great great great grandmother pumped water from the well, carried it inside, heated it on the coal stove, bathed the youngest first and everyone bathed in the same water. When Wanda complained because she had to take the kids to the Doctor for their shots - her great great great grandmother lost most of her children to mumps, measles, cholera or diphtheria. J. Wilms

Hi list! Just received this information from another list. I'm very excited and will be subscribing when it becomes available. Jackie This fall, SierraHome's Generations brand and Heritage Quest will be launching GenealogyDatabase.com with the very first online collection of all U.S. Census images from 1790 - 1920. (1920 was the last year released to the public because of the 72-year waiting period. The 1930 census will be released on April 1, 2002.) Heritage Quest is also working on indexes for each year, and has already completed 1790, 1800 and 1870. This is a monumental step forward for online genealogy resources and will be of great interest to serious genealogy enthusiasts and newbies alike. The census is widely regarded as the most important primary source for tracing one's family heritage. GenealogyDatabase.com will be the largest collection of primary source documents on the Web, many of which will be searchable through Heritage Quest's painstaking efforts to extract the names into indexes which link directly to the digitally enhanced image pages. GenealogyDatabase.com will also be accessible through HeritageQuest.com and SierraHome.com. The site will be subscription-based, comparable to other genealogy sites currently online. We will update you on the pricing model when it becomes available. The most important thing to keep in mind is that GenealogyDatabase.com will be the ONLY site offering the entire collection of U.S. Federal Census images for people to access from the comfort of home. The Census data alone is the equivalent of 12,555 rolls of microfilm and sells for $250,000. There will be 10 million images of Census pages at launch, representing more than 500 million Americans. Heritage Quest is committed to indexing new names at the astounding rate of 500,000 per week! Anything else I should I know about? Furthermore, we intend to make this a living Web community. One feature we're working on for the site will be a "sticky note" technology where members can leave messages behind for others looking at the same page of the census. Keep in mind that census entries were done door-to-door, meaning that families listed on the same census page were neighbors. Many genealogists believe it's essential to research in clusters, since people simply didn't move as often or as far back in the 18th and 19th centuries. GenealogyDatabase.com members can leave behind messages requesting information, pictures, or even correct errors that they know to exist on that particular census page. NOTE: This "sticky note" technology will not be available at launch, so genealogists should check back because we will be adding new names and features each week once the site launches! With a site this huge, we will be introducing new innovations in stages. Give me the nitty gritty details. At launch, GenealogyDatabase.com will offer: * Digital images of the U.S. Census from 1790 - 1920. * The most accurate indexes for the years 1790, 1800, and 1870, which will let site members type in the names of ancestors and link directly to the digital images of handwritten census pages. (Keep in mind that these are fresh extractions of the census. It was determined that existing indexes were filled with errors, which was unacceptable to us. Heritage Quest has recently completed fresh extractions of these three census years. Other years are in the works.)

Hello Graham County researchers.... I just read on the ksrooters email list that the Kansas Genealogical Society (located in Dodge City) has its catalog online at: Check it out. http://www.dodgecity.net/kgs/ later Bill Bill and Diana Sowers - wrs@cjnetworks.com- check out our SCHREMMER-POLLOCK families page at: http://www.cjnetworks.com/~wrs/index.htm Lincoln County Kansas KSGenweb Project page at: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/lincoln/index.html Gove County Kansas KSGenWeb Project page at: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/gove/index.html Graham County Kansas KSGenWeb Project page at: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/graham/index.html Barton County Kansas ALHN web page at: http://www.geocities.com/irus86/

Thought I'd share these links for blank forms available on the net: Click on the "Free Forms" link for this one. It uses .pdf files so you need Acrobat Reader (it's a free download) http://www.ancestrycorner.com/ These are in either .gif or .pdf format. http://www.pbs.org/kbyu/ancestors/teachersguide/charts-records.html This one is "landscaped", also in .pdf format http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/familysheet.htm Everton's .pdf format, colored http://www.everton.com/charts/freeform.html On this one you'll have to right mouse click & save to your hard drive. http://www.familysearch.org/sg/images/Fgr2_ai.gif Very nice one http://www.genealogy-mall.com/fgr.htm This site will e-mail you their "Toolkit" for free. It appears to have 3 printable forms: FGR, Pedigree & Research Calendar. http://www.lineages.com/FirstSteps/Basic.asp This one is kind of different. http://users.erols.com/emcrcc/Family_Record.htm Hope this helps someone! Jackie

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Obituaries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/GrahamObits?read=5 Surname: WILSON, SUTTON, TETER, MEYERS, DREILING, SMITH, HALEY, SHEPARD, DUNLAP, DUNLAP ------------------------- Hays Daily News, Jan. 13, 1992: Hill City-Burl "Bud" Wilson, 61, died Sunday, Jan. 12, at his home in rural Graham County. He was born Aug. 16, 1930, in Liberal, to Dewey and Janet (Sutton) Wilson. He married Daisy A. Teter Sept. 15, 1956, in Raton, N.M. He was a farmer/rancher and a member of the Kansas Farm Bureau board of directors. Survivors include his wife, of the home; one son, David, Hill City; three daughters, Micci Meyers, Mission, Noela Dreiling, Colorado Springs, Colo., and Jackie Smith, Hays; five brothers, Ian, Ocean View, Del., Ray, Fleming, Colo., Winifred, Lamar, Colo., J.D., Sheridan Lake, Colo., and Robert, Providence, R.I.; three sisters, Inez Haley, Corpus Christi, Texas, Loretta Shepard, Helena, Okla., and Mary Dunlap, Denver, Colo; and six grandchildren. Funeral services are scheduled for 2 p.m. Thursday at the Hill City United Methodist Church, with Pastors Kelvin Heitmann and Harry Cross officiating; burial in the Hill City Cemetery. Visiting hours are from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at Spencer Chapel, Hill City, and 10 a.m. to service time Thursday at the church. The family suggests memorials to the Kansas Lung Association.

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Obituaries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/GrahamObits?read=4 Surname: SHEPARD, THUMA, KERFOOT, WILLIAMS, YENGLIN, SKUBAL, MORFORD, CONE, KINION, WELLS, OVERBY, GINGLES ------------------------- HILL CITY ­ Arlene L. Shepard, 74, died Wednesday, May 31, 2000, at the Graham County Hospital. She was born July 3, 1925, in Lenora to Harold H. and Erma Fay (Thuma) Kerfoot. She was a homemaker and longtime area resident. Survivors include her husband, Cleo, Hill City; five sons, Sam Williams, Cimarron, Dean Williams, WaKeeney, Gary Williams, Norton, Steve Williams, Hill City, and Paul Williams, Damar; three daughters, Sheila Yenglin, Grand Junction, Colo., Sherry Skubal, Morland, and Leann Morford, Hill City; two sisters, Laurene Cone, Medford, Ore., and Jacqueline Kinion, Phoenix; many grandchildren; and several great-grandchildren. She was preceded in death by two husbands, Sam Williams Sr. and Art Wells Jr., a sister, Pat Overby, a son, Mark Williams, and a daughter, Janna Gingles. Graveside services will be at 2 p.m. Friday at Lenora South Cemetery. Visitation will be until 8 p.m. today at the Spencer Chapel, Hill City. Memorials are suggested to the Hays dialysis at Hays Medical Center. published in the Hays Daily News, Hays, KS 6/2/2000

Hi everyone, On another list I subscribe to, someone ask how to calculate a person's birthdate from the date of death & life span (example: died Aug. 7 1964, age 35 years, 10 months and 2 days), so I thought this link might be useful to others as well. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabutler/javascrp/tombston/ Jackie

Posted on: Graham Co. Ks Obituaries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ks/GrahamObits?read=2 Surname: CLARY, FERRIN, HEDGE, AMBROSIER, IRBY, FAIRCHILD ------------------------- Hays Daily News Hill City - Eugene H. Clary, 81, died Wednesday, May 31, 2000, at Dawson Place Nursing Home. He was born Nov. 6, 1918, in rural Graham County to Eugene Henry and Pearl Gertrude (Ferrin) Clary. He married Eula Mae Hedge on Dec. 22, 1946, in Norton. He was an oilfield trucker and dispatcher. He was a lifetime area resident. He was a member of the Hill City Christian Church. Survivors include his wife, Hill City; a son, Weldon, Morrison, Colo.; two daughters, Carmen Ambrosier, Hill City, and Jana Irby, Bogue; a sister, Grace Fairchild, Grand Junction, Colo.; and three grandchildren. He was preceded in death by two brothers, Orville and Kendall, and a sister, Wanda. Services will be at 10:30 a.m. Friday at Spencer Chapel, Hill City, with the Revs. Drew Follmer and Howard Guidry officiating; burial in Memorial Lawn Cemetery, Hill City. Visitation will be until 8 p.m. today and from 9 to 10:30 a.m. Friday at the funeral chapel. Memorials are suggested to the Dawson Place Nursing Home.

Trying to locate any information on my maternal great grandfather who was shot and killed in Graham County (9/30/1889) by Lewis William Wells (intoxicated), after James Gilkison tried to dissuade Wells from going and killing some other man with a rifle which James tried to push aside. James was sitting on the steps of the post office reading a letter. Wells was sentenced to 12 years of hard labor for manslaughter (except on Sundays and Holidays), served 10 years. Michael Brasfield brasfield@telocity.com

Hey folks, Can anyone help Veva? She's not a subscriber, so you can either post to the list & I'll forward it to her, or send directly to Veva - or send to both the list & Veva so we can all learn something! :-) Jackie >Date: 17 May 00 08:11:47 PDT >From: Veva Jo Schirlls <VevaJoSchirlls@netscape.net> >To: Jackie Wilson Smith <jaws64@comlinkusa.net> >Subject: Graham County Kansas and John L.Graham >X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM1.4.02C) > >Hi!Jackie, I wondered if you have any info on John Graham the county was >named after. He was my Ggrandfather and I don't have alot of information >on him.All I have was he was married to Mary Ellen McMillan or MacMillan >.They apparently both born in Dade County ,Mo.and they had 2 son's Oscar >and Oliver Sharp Graham .Oliver was my grandfather married Martisha >Elizabeth Jerome .These were the parents of my mother Dela Mae and several >other siblings.After my Ggrandfather was killed at Chickmauga Ga. in the >Civil War I understand he was abt 29 years old when he joined the Kansas >Union Army in 1861 he was killed in Sept.1863.Please email me if you have >any questions or information for me.Thanks. Veva Jo Schirlls > > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at ><http://webmail.netscape.com>http://webmail.netscape.com.

I would be interested. My Graham county relative are OLMSTEAD, STITES, GRIFFITH, BROWN, RIEDEL, and many related families. Shirley Wilcoxon@ix.netcom.com

at 06:57 PM 04/26/2000, Jane Soder wrote: >That sounds like a good idea. Is the web-site free, or would each of us pay >some small fee? If you do it, I would like to participate. I assume we >would put on the site only that part of our family with Graham County >connections. Glad to hear your opinion, Jane. The site is totally free, no hidden costs in any way. I hadn't really given any thought to limiting the information to just the Graham Co. connections - I think that would be up to the person submitting their information. An advantage to submitting an entire tree is discovering other connections - in different locations. Jackie Wilson Smith

That sounds like a good idea. Is the web-site free, or would each of us pay some small fee? If you do it, I would like to participate. I assume we would put on the site only that part of our family with Graham County connections. I will be out of town for about 6 weeks, so it will be a while before I could add anything. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie & Zane Smith <jaws64@comlinkusa.net> To: <KSGRAHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 5:26 AM Subject: [KSGRAHAM] Idea - requesting opinions > Since I'm a real newbie to being a list administrator, I'm trying to come > up with more ideas to benefit the list. One suggestion on another list I > subscribe to is to set up a web-site at MyFamily.com specifically for the > list members. > > If you're familiar with the MyFamily site, feel free to skip to the > following paragraph while I explain what it is. MyFamily is a private > web-site accessible only to members through the use of user-names and > passwords. Each web-site has up to 75 MB of space and has a standard set-up > in the features (main, address book, family history, family tree, recipes, > etc) are the same from one web-site to the next. The contents of each > web-site are contributed by the members. You can see a sample at > http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp > and click on the "Sample Site" on the navigation bar on the left side of > the screen. > > The thoughts behind suggesting this web-site are > 1.) members would be able to post their family trees for other members to see, > 2) ability to share photos & other items of interest since attachments > can't go through to the list. > > I would be more than happy to set up the web-site (and be administrator) if > there is enough interest and only those people who request it would be > added as members. Please post your thoughts & feelings about this > on-list. Or post any idea you may have about making our list more beneficial. > Thanks! > > Jackie Wilson Smith > > > > ==== KSGRAHAM Mailing List ==== > ======================== KSGRAHAM mailing list ======================= > List administrator, Jackie Wilson Smith mail to: jaws64@comlinkusa.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >