This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Zl.2ADI/129.2 Message Board Post: According to Shalor Winchel Eldridge in his book "Recollections of Early Days in Kansas", he was the son of Lyman Eldridge and Phoebe Winchell of West Springfield, Mass. Shalor Winchell Eldridge's grandfather was Elisha Winchell, an officer in the Revolutionary War. Elisha Winchell and his son, Shalor Winchell (so I guess an uncle to Shalor Winchell Eldridge) , died in the war of 1812. Shalor Winchell Eldridge had brothers - James Monroe Eldridge, Edwin S. Eldridge, and Thomas Eldridge - with him in Lawrence in 1857. Shalor Winchell Eldridge married Mary B. Norton (1st wife) on May 23, 1839. They had 7 children, 3 died very young, one, Josephine Phoebe died as a young woman. Three surviving well into adulthood were - Mary S. who married O.E. Learnard, Alice M. who married William B. Learnard, and Evangeline L. who married first William H. Savage and later L.M. Mathews. Shalor Winchell Eldridge's second wife was Caroline Tobey, from New York, no children. According to Shalor Winchell Eldridge, in his book, there was a James M. Winchell in his group of abolitionists in 1856. In fact, James M. Winchell, a correspondent for the New York Times, and Shalor Winchell Eldridge travelled together to Kansas for the first time in 1855 (he does not state that J.M. Winchell was related to him, however). Shalor Winchell Eldridge died in Lawrence in 1899. Attending his funeral, in addition to his living daughters and their husbands, were his niece, Mr. C.C Vining of Corning, Kansas, his nephew, Mr. Ed. S. Eldridge, of Kansas City and his son James. Five grandsons served as pallbearers: Paul Learnard, Tracy Learnard, Oscar Learnard, Shalor E. Learnard, and Burton E. Savage. Don't know if this helps, I just bought this book on ebay and it was published in 1920, although Shalor wrote it much earlier. I was trying to find the relationship between the Kansas Eldridges and the abolitionist John Brown. Passed down by my late husband, Evere! tt E. Eldridge, that those families may have intermarried. Good luck, B-J Eldridge