You may have a point about the turbulence. Not just my ancestor but a whole section of the family including several wives+ kids up and moved from their county in Missouri to relatives who lived in Indiana for the duration of the Civil War and then stayed on for a year and a half longer. On the way to Indiana they stayed with sympathetic relatives and friends and further confused the trail. Fortunately one of the kids grew up to write this story down or I would still be wondering how grandad and dad was born in MO but the second child was born in Portland Mills,Indiana (& not on census) and then shows up in MO census several years after the Civil War. > From: karoli@gte.net > Reply-To: KSDOUGLA-L@rootsweb.com > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Zl.2ADI/103.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I'm in the same boat you are. I have a step- relative on the 1859 Kansas > Territorial Census that I don't find again until 1880. In 1859 he is in > Clinton twp, Douglas County and in 1880 I pick him up again in Wyandotte. In > 1871 he married my ggg-grandmother, who was evidently raising my > gg-grandfather as a single parent after emigrating from Canada. > > These are my speculations, for what they're worth: > > 1) There was so much turbulence in Kansas at the end of the 1850's that > people fled back into Missouri, Iowa or Illinois > > 2) It seems as though there was much movement right before the Civil War. Is > it possible that your relative had other relatives out of Kansas that he > joined? > > I'm going through the census images page by page now, because without this > link between Canada and Kansas I'm stuck. If I come up with anything with the > name you're looking for I'll post a note here with the page reference for you. > > Good luck! > >

Seeking info on subj families. Frank and Ida (Buckminster) Anderson came from Lawrence, Douglas Co., Kansas. Andrew John Anderson + Margaret Jane McCain Ch: Frank Elmer Anderson, d. 19 Mar 1953 + Ida Ray Buckminster m. 4 Jun 1905 in Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS Ch: Dorothy Marie Anderson b. 6 May 1908 in Laramie, Albany Co., WY m. ~ 1943 (in Texas?) Elmer FOCHT ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- IDA RAY BUCKMINSTER FAMILY James Garrett Buckminster b. 10 Aug 1839 Limerick, Jefferson Co., NY d. 21 Jul 1904 Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS m. 19 Dec 1866 Rachel Hale; she b. 4 Oct 1844 in Forest of Dean, Glou., England, dau of Aaron and Eliz Morgan Hale. She d. 3 Jul 1941 in Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS Ch 1: Rose Kennicott Buckminster Ch 2: Frederick Kimbell Buckminster Ch 3: Fanny Adelaide Buckminster ==>> Ch 4: IDA RAY BUCKMINSTER Ch 5: Robert John Buckminster Ch 4: Ida Ray Buckminister b. 18 Aug 1878 Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS + m. Frank Elmer Anderson 4 Jun 1905, Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS; he b. ??? d. 19 Mar 1953 Ch 1: Dorothy Marie Anderson (see above) Jerry Hale Deltona, FL ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Jane, I don't have the Clinton Cemetery info you request but thought I would send along an idea that came through on another list for those of us who would like to mark some unmarked graves (see below) - Susie From the KS-Cem list: Hi, I wanted to place a cross on an unmarked grave and found a company who made a cross for me out of hard durable plastic, and it's the plastic that acid tanks are made out of to clean computer parts. They were very reasonable and I wanted to share them just in case anyone was in the same predicament I was. I'm not trying to sell something just share a great thing, which was under $40.00. It included shipping and handling. This could help people like me that can't afford a tombstone or for a grave that's unmarked. They told me if someone bought it in bulk the price would come down. They were 24 X 9 inches, and I put a picture up at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmdhms/cemetery_crosses.htm They don't normally make these but I was so ecstatic I wanted to share. They will customize any cross, but the plainer they are the cheaper they are. They endure any type of weather and even acid won't destroy them; I'm so grateful for their service and hope I didn't offend anyone on the list by placing this. Thanks and sorry for the off topic but they're great. Lisa --- Jane Soder <janesoder@attbi.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a name and mailing address and/or > telephone number for > someone connected with the Clinton Cemetery? I need > to speak with someone > about getting a small stone for the Beach family > plot there. > > Thank you. > > Jane Beach Soder > Seattle __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

Does anyone have a name and mailing address and/or telephone number for someone connected with the Clinton Cemetery? I need to speak with someone about getting a small stone for the Beach family plot there. Thank you. Jane Beach Soder Seattle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Eldredge, Eldridge, Winchell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/129.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you, Don. Thanks for your quick reply and info. You provided me with a bit more information than I had. Does anyone know if the Eldredges and Eldridges are different family lines or just alternate spellings. I would be interested in talking with anyone researching either of these families in the Lawrence and Kansas City areas. Lori highwayone01@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/129.1 Message Board Post: Lori It is likely Winchells and Eldridges are connected. parts of both families lived in Waukarusa township in 1875. Sevearal of the Winchells and Eldridges are listed in our Tombstone index. In our marriage index is A.T. Winchell to H. Ianthe Sholes both of Lawrence Thurs morning the 17th inst. at residence of brides's father , By Rev. Richard Cordley, Lawrence Republican 24 Oct. 1861 also Kansas State Journal 12 Oct. 1861 p. 3 "married this morning". The Ianthe could be Janthe. Don

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Winchell, Schalley, Shalley, Keown, HandleyEldridge, Eldredge Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/129 Message Board Post: I am looking for some leads to Winchells who were in Lawrence by 1861. My ggrandfather, George Herbert Winchell was born in Lawrence in 1862(3), The 1880 census shows Ahnelin (Almerin) wife Harriet, George Herbert Jr.b. Lawrence, 17, Henry H., 14, Reuben W., 6 and Mariah Dodge, 17 servant. living in Lawrence, KS. According to Winchell book by Alexander Winchell, George H. Jr. m. Hattie Eldredge b.Lawrence and had daughter Jeanne, in 1886. Hattie later to marry possibly a Sterliing or Sinclair. I have family photos identified as Harry Eldridge, Shalor Winchell Eldridge, and Ed Eldridge. Was Hattie connected to either of these Eldridges? George H. m. 2nd, Anna Schalley, Kansas City, in 1896. Anna had at least 2 sisters, Alice, who I found in 1889-91 Kansas City directory working in Laundry, m. William Handley. Both died and are buried in Fairbanks Alaska, and Catherine, no info. Anna is my grandfathers mother. Henry Homer m. Estella Keown and moved to NY and joined a Broadway theater group. I have been unable to find any info on Henry and his family. Would love contact with any decendants ar anyone with information to share. Thank you. Lori @yahoo.com highwayone01

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Laird To: Jim Laird Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:42 AM Subject: Obituary: Alfred JOHNSTON.. The Topeka Daily Capital Saturday June 10, 1939 Alfred Johnston. Alfred JOHNSTON, 54, of Lawrence, Kan., died Thursday in a Kansas City hospital, according to word received in Topeka by Mr. and Mrs. Wilbur Gibbs, 2034 Randolph Avenue. Funeral services will be Monday morning at 10 o'clock at the Masonic Temple in Lawrence, with interment in Lawrence Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KELLUM Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/128 Message Board Post: Looking for information on: MARY KELLUM 12 Jul 1893 Dec 1984 66050 (Lecompton, Douglas, KS) (none specified) 515-18-9775 Kansas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cardwell, Fox, Sparks, Duncan, Hicks, Admire Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/127 Message Board Post: Hi List! I'm working on the Cardwell and Fox families. Dennis' Father William was a United Brethren Minister in Big Springs KS. His family arrived in KS in 1855. I have alot of info on the Cardwell line, but nothing on the Fox family. Anyone researching either line? Thanks! Steph

Mildred Reed LAWRENCE -- Mildred Marie Reed, 84, Lawrence, died Monday, Feb. 24, 2003, at a Lawrence hospital. She was born Dec. 16, 1918, in Fort Worth, Texas, to Johnny and Dubbie Belle Cummings Shelby. She married Delbert Reed on Dec. 9, 1960, in Muskogee, Okla. He died in 1975. Survivors include a daughter, Sandra; three stepsons, Delbert Reed Jr. and Raymond Reed, both of Lawrence, and George R. Reed, Lake Ozark, Mo.; and grandchildren. Graveside services will be at 3 p.m. Friday at Oak Hill Cemetery in Lawrence. Memorial contributions may be made to Community Drop-in Center Inc. and sent in care of Warren-McElwain Mortuary, 1209 W. 13th, Lawrence, 66044.

William Cale LAWRENCE -- William F. Cale, 74, Lawrence, died Tuesday, Feb. 25, 2003, at a Lawrence care facility. Mr. Cale had been a coal miner, farmer, sheep herder, service station attendant and lumberjack. He was disabled several years ago. He was an Army veteran of the Korean War. He was born May 3, 1928, in Clarksville, Pa., to Emery and Margaret Catherine Burch Cale. He moved to Lawrence from Bonner Springs. He married Virginia Davis on Aug. 9, 1953, in Irondale, Ohio. She survives. Other survivors include two daughters, Margaret Bowmar, LaPort, Ind., and Betty Jean Brogan, Lawrence; two sons, William F. Cale and Thomas R. Cale, both of Lawrence; a brother, Pete Cale, DeSoto; five grandchildren; and six great-grandchildren. Graveside inurnment services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Oak Hill Cemetery in Lawrence. Warren-McElwain Mortuary in Lawrence is in charge of arrangements.

Fern Allen LAWRENCE -- Fern M. Allen, 91, Lawrence, died Tuesday, Feb. 25, 2003, at a Lawrence retirement community. She was born April 19, 1911, in Horton, to David W. and Anna C. Lehn O'Dell. Mrs. Allen was a member of St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church in Lawrence. She married David A. Allen on July 9, 1932, in Horton. He died on June 16, 1986. Mrs. Allen also was preceded in death by a daughter and a grandson. Survivors include three sons, David E. Allen and Richard L. Allen, both of Topeka, and Jerry J. Allen, Stover, Mo.; five daughters, Vera J. Harrington, Emporia, Pat K. Wells, Lawrence, Joyce M. Davis, Billings, Mont., Mary Jo Huffstickler, Norfolk, Va., and Vickie S. Nichols, Lawrence; 21 grandchildren; 41 great-grandchildren; and eight great-great-grandchildren. Services will be at 10 a.m. Saturday at Warren-McElwain Mortuary in Lawrence. Burial will be in Rochester Cemetery in North Topeka. A parish rosary recited at 7 p.m. Friday at the mortuary will be followed by visitation. Memorial contributions may be made to Heart of America Hospice and sent in care of the mortuary.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Laird To: Jim Laird Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:10 AM Subject: Obituary: Fred C. BROKMANN.. The Topeka Daily Capital Wednesday October 3, 1951 Fred C. Brokmann. Fred C. BROKMANN, 92, a long time resident of the Stull community, died Thursday in a Lawrence hospital. He is survived by three sons, Arthur of Meriden, William of Ottawa and Albert of Lawence; and three daughters, Mrs. William Marshall and Mrs. Ed Smith, both of Lawrence, and Mrs. Del Edwards of Chanute. Services will be at 2 p.m. Thursday at the Rumsey Funeral Home in Lawrence, with burial in Oak Hill Cemetery in Lawrence.

Rick Williams LAWRENCE -- Rick D. Williams, 42, Lawrence, died Monday, Feb. 24, 2003, at a Lawrence hospital. Mr. Williams had been a claims representative for Farmers Insurance Group in Olathe since 1998. He was born Feb. 5, 1961, in Lamar, Mo., to Howard Dean and Rita Kay Buck Williams. He graduated from high school in Lamar in 1979 and earned a degree in urban and regional planning at Southwest Missouri State University in Springfield in 1986. He also attended graduate school at The University of Kansas. Mr. Williams was a member of Lawrence Wesleyan Church. He married Carole R. Posten on Dec. 16, 1983, in Lamar. She survives. Other survivors include three daughters, Emily Williams, Rachel Williams and Ellen Williams, all at home; his father, Howard Williams, Lamar; a brother, Robbie Williams, Lamar; and a sister, Rita Nelson, Lamar. Services will be at 1:30 p.m. Friday at Lawrence Wesleyan Church. Burial will be at Oak Hill Cemetery. Visitation will be from 7 to 8:30 p.m. Thursday at Warren-McElwain Mortuary. Contributions may be made to the Rick Williams Memorial Scholarship Fund for the children's education and sent in care of the mortuary, 1120 W. 13th St., Lawrence, 66044-3402.

Grover Thomas LAWRENCE -- Grover Cleveland Thomas, 92, Lawrence, died Friday, Feb. 21, 2003, at a Lawrence hospital. Mr. Thomas had been a painting contractor in Los Angeles. He also was a World War II veteran. He was born Dec. 28, 1910, in St. Louis, to Louis and Julia Thomas. Mr. Thomas was a member of Praise Temple Church. He married Constance Mae Henderson on June 16, 1945, in Kansas City, Kan. She died June 22, 1961. Survivors include two sons, Ronald Thomas, Lawrence, and William Walker, Kansas City, Kan.; three daughters, Jacquelyn Davis, Kansas City, Kan., Brenda Joyce Wright, Kansas City, Mo., and Jeanette Thomas, Battle Creek, Mich.; 18 grandchildren; 28 great-grandchildren; and four great-great-grandchildren. Services will be at 11 a.m. Friday at 9th Street Baptist Church in Lawrence. Burial will be in Leavenworth National Cemetery. Visitation will be from 10 a.m. to service time Friday at the church. Warren-McElwain Mortuary in Lawrence is in charge of arrangements.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Laird To: Jim Laird Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: Obituary: Miss Carrie I. WOOLSEY.. The Perry Mirror Thursday December 2, 1954 Miss Carrie I. Woolsey. Miss Carrie I. WOOLSEY, 73, a former resident of Lawrence, died Nov. 10 at her home in Chicago. Funeral services and burial were held Nov. 13 in Chicago. She attended the University of Kansas, where she was elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and was graduated in 1911. She was a member of the Chicago Chapter of DAR, of the Eleanor Club and of the University Club. Surviving are four sisters, Mrs. Guy Schultz, Route 3; Mrs. Sadie Coons of Horton; Mrs. J.A. Morgan, Boone, Colo., and Miss May Woolsey of Seattle, Wash., and a brother, Ray Woolsey of Horton.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zl.2ADI/30.1 Message Board Post: My line goes as "Mother" Goldie Marie (Schrable) Mrs. Ivan William Gibler. She was born 17 Dec 1899 Springfield, Greene Co. MO. Father William Lee Schrable b. 1 Feb 1877, Greene County, Mo d. 26 Jun 1939 Co, John Clayton Schrable b 10 Jun 1847 Rutherford County, NC d. 10 May 1927, Springfield, Greene Co. MO. m. Margaret Jane Hayes, 16 Sept 1867 Springfield, MO. Census states she was born in ARK 1839 we don't know where or who her parents were. Thomas Jefferson Schrable b.1823 NC, d. 1865 AR, m. Saliter Moore 9 Sept 1845 Rutherford Co. NC, parents John SCHROEBEL spelling on marriage bond. b.or d. not known. Will dated 1824 court date 1826. married Sally Wells 14 Aug 1822 Rutherford Co. NC. HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION of Who John belonged to or whre he was born or lived before N.C. Appreciate any suggestions. Thank You. Charlotte Gibler Muckey

I am looking for information on Daniel P Weybright. He lived in Kansas long enough to have 2 children, buried one there. Charles Weybright was the child. He married Susan Koub of Franklin County Kansas. She was 22 he was 21, they married in 22 ay 1871. They divorced, she moved to Indiana, married Joseph Himes, April 22 1877. She took Jacob Vernon with her to Indiana. Jacob is my G Grandfather. I know Daniel married again, as I have a picture of him with her, taken in Lawrence Kansas. No date on it. Thank You

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edgerton, Vernon, Lambert, Miller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Zl.2ADI/126 Message Board Post: I'm trying to find the obituary of John Edgerton, died 7 Jan 1869, Lecompton, Douglas Co, KS. He is my 4th grtgrandfather. Possibly had been living with a daughter by name of Vernon???? - his wife, Zilpha, having died in 1858 in Ohio. He had 2 daughters married to Joseph Stanton Vernon. Sarah m. 1848: 4 children; then Mary m. 1858: 8 children. Also, any information on his descendants.... Thanks.