This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cabincreek138 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.crawford/968.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A little research turned up the following info: Jacob Armstead Cramer, age 23, and Beulah Elizabeth Durham, age 21, both of Girard, were married 05 Mar 1887, by W.F. Cox, Justice of the Peace. (Crawford County Marriage Records, Book E, pg 255). A CD of the Crawford County Birth Records has the births of their children as: 1st Eddie M 01 Nov 1887 Book G Page 32.04 2nd Clarence Carson M 27 Aug 1889 C 143.09 3rd M 20 Oct 1891 C 184.01 4th F 1894 D 94.05 5th M 24 Sep 1896 D 134.1 6th F 18 Sep 1898 D 176.02 6th M 01 Aug 1901 D 228.1 The information for the birth record was usually submitted by the doctor or midwife in attendance and often didn't include the child's name. I think the birth of the first child was probably in book C rather than G, but the CD has G. Also, obviously, the last two children could not have both been the sixth child born to the mother. Jacob and Beulah, along with other family members, are buried at the Girard Cemetery where their tombstones are inscribed: Girard Cemetery Page 116 Cramer Mother Beulah E. 1865-1945 Father Jacob A. 1863-1953 Cora May Cramer 1898-1914 William A. Cramer 1861-1928 Lester D. Cramer Kansas Pvt. 312 Field Arty 79 Div. Sept 5 1894 Oct 6 1945 Girard Cemetery Page 181 Clarence C. Cramer 1889-1958 Nellie W. Cramer 1890-1963 Girard Cemetery Page 127 Cramer Riley 1880-1945 Mother Wrsula 1860-1945 Father Sylvanus A. 1854-1922 Everett E. 1886-1935 Ednis V. 1891-1946 (Tombstone Transcriptions of All Known Cemeteries in Crawford County, Kansas 1867-1976, From the Original Records of William C. Cuthbertson). Mr. Cuthbertson underlined the "W" in Wrsula to show that was the spelling on the tombstone. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.