no problem, you guys are great! Thanks and we will be off and running in our research... Lori colyer darrow: Never told you all the names I am always researching: as always researching: Wilkinson, Burg, Haney, Haldeman-Julius,Colyer , Jenkins, Mathis, Matthews, Hansen, Hamilton,Smith, Seaton, Craddock, Scarmooche, Claybrook, Atkinson, Scott, Thanks guys lori