This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wl.2ADE/99 Message Board Post: I need to see if there is a obit for the following person and how to go about getting it being that I live in Texas. MOSES BROWN...br ENGLAND 1860 . Know he was alive in the 1930 census 1930 Kansas census Clay Co Kansas Moses Brown Clay Center, Clay, KS abt 1861 England Head Ellen Brown Clay Center, Clay, KS abt 1869 Wife Thomas Brown Clay Center, Clay, KS abt 1916 Son I seem to have lost a BROWN family that lived in St Helens Lancs England. The last know info on them is the following 1861 Census Liverpool Rd RG 9-2750 Page 166 of 175 Thomas Brown Head Marr 27 Boot & Shoe Maker Cumberland Mary or Margaret Brown Wife Marr 27 St Helens 1834 Jane Brown Dau 3 St Helens 1858 William Brown Son 2 St Helens 1859/58 Moses Brown Son 10 Mths St Helens 1860 William Brown Brother Un Marr 22 Clogger Cumberland Catherine Finch Servant 16 Servant St Helens They are nowhere in the 1871 UK census and I cannot find any info re death of Moses Brown in the Free BMD website for Lancs England at this time. I have traced a Thomas BROWN the father to Clifton Washington Co Kansas and found them minus daughter Jane Brown in the 1870 census . They are farmers.... Cannot understand why a boot and shoe maker decided to take up farming but anything is possible . So why not? 1880 census shows that wife Mary has died... 1900 census shows Thomas has remarried. 1910 census shows Thomas and wife still alive and kicking. I took MOSES BROWN the son as the one to search as his name is much easier to find. Census records show that his father THOMAS BROWN came to the US in 1866 and his sons Albert and Moses have 1865 as their year of immigration So far no ship records found for kids and Thomas wife Mary ..... MARY BROWN nee HOLDEN was mentioned in her father MOSES HOLDEN will of Oct of 1866 St Helens Lancs England receiving money and 1 house.....this is where we found her husbands name for sure. Have marriage info in St Helens....since we couldn't find them in the 1871 UK census we went looking to see if they decided to leave England and go somewhere else..that is when I found same same family minus daughter Jane in the 1870 census for Kansas ..... I have no idea if this is the same family as the one I am looking for and that is why I thought a obit on MOSES BROWN might show where he was br and maybe his parents names. I believe he was the son of THOMAS BROWN that I have traced from 1870 living in Kansas and mother was MARY BROWN . Is there anyone on the list that can help me please to see if this is the same THOMAS and MARY BROWN family of St Helens Lacns England? Thank you for any suggestions and for reading this query Sharon Tx