Dear List Members, The new and imporved Rootsweb Mailing List Archive site is great. So much better than before. When you have a moment, check it out. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index Kathleen Burnett List Mom

Dear List Members, I had a virus problem last evening and in cleaning my system I lost all e-mail messages that were in my inbox. If you have contacted me within the last week, needing help or asking a question, please resend it to me KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

Judy-- Wakefield has two nearby cemeteries, Madura and St. John's. I don't think there is a funeral home there anymore, but the records may have been given to one of the funeral homes in Clay Center or Herington. Sheryl McClure

Can someone tell me if the Dean L. Sauceman Funeral Home still exists today. It is the funeral home that my husband's great-grandfather, William Preston GATES was buried from. I am looking for other members of the family's funeral homes. Was there more than one funeral home in the Wakefield area in the 1890-1950 timeframe? W. P. GATES Death Certificate says he was buried in Wakefield. What would a cemetery there be? Would there be, or have been, more than one? Anna Maria Elizabeth (REED) GATES was W. P. GATES wife. She died in 1929 and he died in 1932. They should be in the same cemetery. Anna's funeral was held at the St George's Episcopal Church. Is it still in existence? W. P. and Anna GATES had a daughter, Inez Anna Marian GATES who was married first to Edgar JEVONS, with whom she had a set of twins - Ellis and Elsie JEVONS, b. March 14, 1902. Elsie JEVONS died, at the age of about 1 year. Edgar JEVONS seems to have died, soon after that, because Inez married 2nd, Charles Grant BATES, on Feb. 3, 1906. Charles and Inez had a son named Harold George BATES, my husband's father. In 1913, Inez died and is buried in Wakefield. I want to find out where all of these people were buried and what funeral home they were buried from - perhaps church records. Can anyone help me with addresses of the graveyards and funeral homes in Wakefield? also the address of the church that I mentioned, if it still exists? Judy Bates Scottsdale, AZ.

Dear List Members, Here it is the end June and time for the Second Quarterly Report for 2001. Can you believe how fast the time has passed? This one almost passed me by. The KSCLAY Mailing List has 50 members, 41 on the Regular list and there are 9 members on the Digest List. As most of you know by now, the GenConnect Boards have changed. Rootsweb.com and Ancestry.com are continuing their merger and now have merged the GenConnect Boards. I am not sure of my feeling regarding this yet, but will watch it and let you know. I am not one to jump to conclusions quickly. I also take care of many GenConnect Boards and did loose all of them in which I did not take care of the Query board due all the boards, bios, wills, pensions, etc. being combined within the Query board. If you used one of these boards, now you know why I suddenly disappeared. I know many of you have concerns regarding copyright laws and the information you post to the boards and the mailing lists. The following was posted by Rootsweb Management. "When you post messages to mailing lists, message boards, and other facilities at RootsWeb, those posts remain your property under copyright law." The same is true for those using the message boards at Ancestry.com. In short, if you posted it, you own it." If you are interested in knowing about other mailing list out there, one of the very best inventories of genealogical mailing lists is John Fuller’s Genealogy Resources on the Internet located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html If you ever need to unsubscribe from this list or any rootsweb list all you need to do is visit Password Central located at http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Follow the instructions and you will received an e-mail of all lists you belong to and from it you can unsubscribe from the ones you want to. Always know that I will be more than happy to help you if you are having problems unsubscribing, you only need to ask. If you would like to visit the Archived messages of this list, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and type in the name of the list you would like to search. Please remember, so that this list is better for each of us, the posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc., in other words Spam is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact me at KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net There are a few items I would like to suggest for the benefit of each of us. 1. If someone posts a message to the list that should not have been posted, please just delete it. Know that I am taking care of the problem. If you post your unhappiness, then you just continue on the problem. I know it is hard when your heart has been offended, but for my sake, and the sake of the list, please just delete it. Rootsweb has a wonderful Spam Detective and it stops most of it. You should see what comes across my screen. I have to look at each of them to make sure that what was stopped was truly Spam. Once in a while, one slips by though and if this happens, just delete it and go on with what we all love, genealogical research. 2. If you would put the subject of your posting in the subject line it might give you a better chance to attract the attention of someone who has the information you are looking for or the attention of someone who is searching for the information you are posting. 3. Please remember to delete the tags and un-needed words when you re-send a message to the list with your answer. If you don't check this, your responses can become quite large and may cause problems with some of our member's servers. This member who might not be able to receive your message because of its size, just might be your long lost second cousin with all the answers you are looking for. 4. The wonderful relationship that develops between list members is also one of a Mailing Lists Problems. I encourage you to respond to the entire list with genealogical responses, you never know who your response will help. In the same thought I would like to ask you to not respond to the entire list with personal responses. Such as, the first message from a member says "Happy Birthday Mary" and then Mary says "Thank you” and then about 60 of our members also send "Happy Birthday Mary". This is what I mean by personal messages. Just keep in mind anything is ok to be posted as long as it has to do with the subject of the list. If you have a doubt ask me. KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net 5. Remember to keep your Virus protection up to date and never open any attached file unless you are 100% sure what it is and even then you are taking a chance. I want to thank each of you for your continued support of me and your willingness to help make this list the success it is. Kathleen Burnett List Mom KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net

Please remove me from your list, thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Burnett" <kathleenburnett@earthlink.net> To: <KSCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: [KSCLAY] Kansas Cemetery Site is in Need of Cemetery Inventories > The Kansas Cemetery web page that goes hand and hand with the > KS-CEMETERIES Mailing list is in need of additional Kansas cemetery > inventories or links to inventories already online. If you have one you > would like to share please send it to Ann Bush the Kansas Cemetery and > Volunteer Web Mistress ann@anniesark.com or to Kathleen Burnett > KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net > > If you send us a link, please let us know if it is yours and you are > giving us permission to link to it or if it is one your found and we > need to get permission from the copyright holder. > > We also would appreciate pictures of tombstones, cemeteries, old > gravesyards, cemetery gates, abandoned cemeteries, etc. > > If you have sent us an inventory or a link and it is not on the site, > please let us know. We try to hard to keep track of everything sent to > us, but just want to make sure. > > If you would like to visit the site go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kscemete/kscem.htm > > Kathleen Burnett > List Mom > > > > > ==== KSCLAY Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Check out the KS-CEMETERIES Volunteer and Cemetery Inventory Website located at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kscemete/kscem.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

Would you please check and see if there are any children with the last name of BRUCE? What a kind thing you are doing! Janis Mundy Reno, NV ----- Original Message ----- From: <alwilhelm@holtonks.net> To: <KSCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:18 AM Subject: [KSCLAY] Athelstane Township - Dimon School - 1908 > > I have a list of the students and teacher in this school (District No. 72), which I will share. > > > ==== KSCLAY Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Check out the KS-CEMETERIES Volunteer and Cemetery Inventory Website located at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kscemete/kscem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I have a list of the students and teacher in this school (District No. 72), which I will share.

ourfamilytravels@prodigy.net wrote on 6/20/01 1:38 AM: > Jack, > The Theordore Ingersol in your story is my 1st-greatuncle by > marriage. He married Julia Kipp, the sister to my 1st great > grandfather, Norman Edward Washburn Kipp. > Therodore and Julia (Kipp) Ingersoll's descendant's live in Seattle, > Washington. > Yes, I know Cathy Haney. Isn't she great!!!!!!! > Bob Smith > Hi, Bob! Hope you enjoyed the story. The one about Fred and the watermelons I always found very amusing and I think Ted kept my grandfather as a little boy and his brothers and sisters well entertained with the sorghum and bread business. The picture of Ted at the GAR meeting with my great grandad and the other gentlemen listed there is a copy of a copy, but I shall be glad to try to scan it and clean it up for viewing if you'd like. If anyone else would like a copy I'd be glad to send it. Yes, Cathy Haney is an absolute jewel. I'd mentioned once before, I think, that Cathy tramped around in the fields and climbed barbed wire fences in her good clothes one Saturday afternoon, so we could see great grandfather's old stone house. Regards, Jack Sanders

Jack, The Theordore Ingersol in your story is my 1st-greatuncle by marriage. He married Julia Kipp, the sister to my 1st great grandfather, Norman Edward Washburn Kipp. Therodore and Julia (Kipp) Ingersoll's descendant's live in Seattle, Washington. Yes, I know Cathy Haney. Isn't she great!!!!!!! Bob Smith ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!

The Kansas Cemetery web page that goes hand and hand with the KS-CEMETERIES Mailing list is in need of additional Kansas cemetery inventories or links to inventories already online. If you have one you would like to share please send it to Ann Bush the Kansas Cemetery and Volunteer Web Mistress ann@anniesark.com or to Kathleen Burnett KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net If you send us a link, please let us know if it is yours and you are giving us permission to link to it or if it is one your found and we need to get permission from the copyright holder. We also would appreciate pictures of tombstones, cemeteries, old gravesyards, cemetery gates, abandoned cemeteries, etc. If you have sent us an inventory or a link and it is not on the site, please let us know. We try to hard to keep track of everything sent to us, but just want to make sure. If you would like to visit the site go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~kscemete/kscem.htm Kathleen Burnett List Mom

In reply to Jack Sanders of Eureka, Kansas's interesting story, I have a link to Harry Hemphill Mccull as follows. Maxwell Harry Sanders B February 07, 1866 married Flora Sylvia White on April 4 1889, daughter was Rachel Sanders, who married Harry Hemphill McCully (B Broughton, March 23 1883, M July 30, 1913, D January 20, 1920). There is mention of Winifred Luella Sanders, dau of Fred Lock Sanders & Alice Luella Chapman in the Pioneers of the Bluestem Prairie, (Ref #28 - Carlson. Page 21). Maxwell and Thomas Sanders, (Ref #138 - Sanders. Pge 59). Whilst I'm writing this, could someone tell me what "G.A.R. Post 338 of the District of Kansas Broughton Area)" is, or what a GAR Post means ?. Thanks and Best Wishes Don Environmental Petroleum Systems PO Box 5080, Cheltenham. Victoria. Australia 3192 Ph 613 9583 0369 Mob 0419 321 998 "Dangerous Goods Listserver" Subscribe at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/DangerousGoods "Petroliana Australia Listserver" Subscribe at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/petrolianaAustralia The information contained herein was obtained from sources which I believe to be reliable, but I cannot guarantee any accuracy.

Mkat72@aol.com wrote on 6/16/01 5:11 PM: > Dear Don-- > > GAR is the "Grand Army of the Republic"--meaning it is a veteran's > organization made up of Union veterans of the Civil War. Clay County was > plumb full of Civil War vets and just about every little town had their own > Post. > > Sheryl McClure Yes, it was something very similar to the VFW. For many years, I think there were state "encampents" every year where the old veterans could get together and swap stories and see each other again. Of course, as the old fellows died, so did the G.A.R. Posts and the yearly encampments. Jack Sanders

Dear Don-- GAR is the "Grand Army of the Republic"--meaning it is a veteran's organization made up of Union veterans of the Civil War. Clay County was plumb full of Civil War vets and just about every little town had their own Post. Sheryl McClure

OK, folks. Since the list has been so quiet I hope no one minds too much if I post a story from one of the old settlers. Let me set the stage a bit. My great grandfather, HENRY SANDERS and his two brothers MAXWELL and THOMAS homesteaded in the Republican River valley in Clay County shortly after the civil war just a few miles southeast of Clay Center. They each built stone houses exactly alike near the now non-existent town of Broughton and fairly close to the river. The houses stand to this day and two of them are still kept up and occupied. Any Clay County residents on this list are probably familiar with those old houses which I think for many years were referred to as the "Sanders houses". In any event, my granddad, WILLIAM HENRY SANDERS, was born there in 1868 and lived in the area until he went to college at nearby Kansas State University in Manhattan, Kansas. The INGERSOLS apparently also homesteaded near the Sanders. My granddad wrote down his recollections as follows: ----------------------- "In those early days, [1860's - 1880's] there was quite a good settlement near where my father lived. [This must be Broughton, KS]. There was one family in particular that insisted on helping to start the first school there. They had come on from Connecticut and among the young women in the family one of them had been a missionary to the Sandwich Islands to help teach those poor heathens how to wear clothes. One of the girls also took over organizing the school in our community. These people were named INGERSOL - the old gentlemen himself was a congregational minister, Rev. E. P. INGERSOL. He had written quite a book about the Great Pyramid of Egypt where he contended that there were certain measurements which measured up to the English ideas of inches and feet and so forth. One story that always interested me a great deal is the one about Theodore Ingersol. He was the oldest of the Reverend's sons and he lived down on the river bottom on a sandy knoll. He was not a very provident sort of a fellow and didn't have much of anything left when his crops were brought in because he didn't know how to farm very good. It was quite a common thing for him to come out to our homestead and visit around and talk to father about the time he thought there would be a dinner or supper ready. He became a rather interesting item. We always grinned and said "Here comes Theodore to find out if he can get his bread and sorghum to come out even." Sorghum was one of the sweets that was able to be made in those days. White sugar was very scarce. Father would invariably invite Theodore in to eat and he could never come out even on the sorghum or the bread that he had on his plate. Bread and his sweet was a great treat to him and he would say, "Mrs. Sanders, I've got more syrup here than bread. Can I have another piece of bread?" Then that bread would more than sop up the sorghum, so he would pour out some more sorghum and of course the bread would run out before that sorghum was lapped up. And the poor devil got quite a meal eaten that way by not finding that his sorghum and bread would ever come out even. There is another of the Ingersol family that I want to tell a story about. He was Fred Ingersol. When the threshing machines of the early days first came in, they didn't have to use the flail and cradle to harvest their wheat any more. Fred Ingersol was rather a daredevil sort of fellow. He took over part of the job of helping to lubricate the upper part of the threshing machine. In doing so, he inadvertently stepped down on the table on which the bound bundles were thrown to men with pitchforks. His feet slipped back to where the cylinder was rotating and it stripped most of the flesh off from his ankle bone up his calf to his knee completely. That was eventually cured up and my father made a peg leg for him. He bound the bottom of it which was probably two inches in diameter with an iron band that father forged for that purpose. He was tagged for this as Peg Leg Fred. Fred was quite a character in his day and was in to practically everything. Among other things, one time late in the fall one year, my father had some late watermelons that he was trying to keep covered up with grass and reeds against the frost. Poor old Fred, of course, knew what a watermelon patch was and he hunted out those watermelons of father's. In order to find out whether they were ripe enough he would punch his peg leg into one end of the watermelons. He plugged every watermelon in the patch. There was another girl in that Ingersol family whose name was Carrie. She married an expert carpenter who had settled in the valley by the name of Chapman. Chapman helped finish up some of the woodwork on not only the Ingersol house but my own maternal grandfather J. H. Simpson's house. The stairway from the lower story to the upper story was his handiwork. [Note: the Simpson house still stands today near the Gatesville Cemetery.] But he eventually went haywire about something or other - the worries of the day or the times or some such. They had to put him away in a crazy house in Topeka and poor Carrie was left to look after her two daughters as best she could. She moved to Clay Center and became a dressmaker." ---------------- Well, that's surely enough for now. I don't want to overstay my welcome. Hope you've enjoyed the stories, especially if you have any Clay Center Ingersols, Sanders, Simpsons or Chapmans in your family tree. I believe I have a picture of some of the Sanders and one of the Ingersol boys at a G.A.R. Meeting. The picture looks to have been taken in the 1870's. The names include: THEODORE INGERSOL, JESSE DEVER, JAKE PHILLIPS, FRANK SHEINKOENIG, JIM VERNER, TOM SANDERS AND HENRY SANDERS, all members of G.A.R. Post 338 of the District of Kansas (Broughton Area). Don't worry, I plan to leave copies of all my granddad's stories at the Clay Center Historical Society with Kathy Haney, whose ancestor, as I understand it, is the Frank Sheinkoenig listed above. Regards to all, Jack Sanders Eureka, Kansas ------------------------------- I am very proud of all of you, living or dead, and have reached the place where I see the uselessness of regrets for past mistakes and would not wish to try it all over again.² -William Henry Sanders (1957) Inverness, FL. Age 89

I have just been looking at the Websites that have been recommended lately - the one that is from the Library of VA. and the great map one. There were documents I would like to have copied (and actually I did copy parts of them) but I only get a part of them on the first page of my printout and then I get a blank on the 2nd page instead of the rest of the document that didn't fit on the 1st page. The maps are the same way, you can't copy all of them. does anyone know how to accomplish this feat? Judy Bates Scottsdale, AZ.

Ashley Tiwara wrote on 6/15/01 12:08 AM: > Just insatiable curiosity. Can you tell the stories? > > Regards, > Ashley > Ashley Tiwara grubisic@netwurx.net > > Jack Sanders wrote: > >> Hello, everyone: >> >> It seems that some time ago, someone had asked on the list about the >> INGERSOL family who lived near Broughton/Rosevale, which is in Clay County, >> near Clay Center. I didn't save the e-mail. >> >> I was going through some of my grandfather William Sanders' papers recently >> and came across some amusing tales of a couple of the "Ingersol boys". >> >> If anyone is interested and/or related, please let me know. Hi, Ashley: You sound like me. I LOVE genealogy stories and really enjoy reading the mailing lists about folks, even if they aren't in my particular line. I'm just on my way to Wichita now, but will be back late this after noon and will post this evening. If you've been on the list for several months, you may recall the letter I posted from my great grandpa to his little sister while he was in the Cavalry during the Civil War in the winter time describing what it was like here in Kansas during the 1860's. Regards, Jack Sanders

Just insatiable curiosity. Can you tell the stories? Regards, Ashley Ashley Tiwara grubisic@netwurx.net Jack Sanders wrote: > Hello, everyone: > > It seems that some time ago, someone had asked on the list about the > INGERSOL family who lived near Broughton/Rosevale, which is in Clay County, > near Clay Center. I didn't save the e-mail. > > I was going through some of my grandfather William Sanders' papers recently > and came across some amusing tales of a couple of the "Ingersol boys". > > If anyone is interested and/or related, please let me know. > > Jack Sanders, Eureka, Kansas > - > > ==== KSCLAY Mailing List ==== >

Hello, everyone: It seems that some time ago, someone had asked on the list about the INGERSOL family who lived near Broughton/Rosevale, which is in Clay County, near Clay Center. I didn't save the e-mail. I was going through some of my grandfather William Sanders' papers recently and came across some amusing tales of a couple of the "Ingersol boys". If anyone is interested and/or related, please let me know. Jack Sanders, Eureka, Kansas --------------------- Researching *any* SA(U)NDERS UK: Sussex/Surrey border - East Grinstead, Worth, Horne, Felbridge, Lingfield and Godstone, pre 1600 - 1850. Also related families of CHART, BISH/BYSHE, TAYLOR, BUTCHER, FENNER & PAYN(E), same towns, same time periods. USA: any SANDERS - Clay County, KS: 1860's plus.

Dear List Members, This site was shared with me today and I am thrilled with it. If you have or might have ancestors who were from Virginia, you need to check this one out. Plan on spending some time. There is a lot of information. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm "The Library of Virginia's Digital Library Program (DLP) is an internationally recognized effort to preserve, digitize, and provide access to significant archival and library collections. The DLP transfers rare and unique Virginia materials into an integrated, user-friendly electronic research environment. Since its inception in 1995, the Program has digitized more than 2.2 million original documents, photographs, and maps, and produced more than 80 fully-searchable databases, indexes, and electronic finding aids."