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    1. [KSALLEN] new list home is ready
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. The new home for the Allen county mailing list has been set up. In a few minutes, I'll send out personal invitations to the subscribers of this list who wish to join the new group will be able to do so. I can not add members directly. It should be a link you can click that will let you 'accept' the invitation to join the new group. You may need to check your spam folder as I can't say when such will be delivered. If you don't find an invitation in your email you may also go to this site - https://groups.io/g/KS-ALLEN and select Join Group. Of course, folks may still post to this list through 3/1. Tim Stowell

    02/19/2020 12:08:39
    1. [KSALLEN] Status of the Allen county mailing list - 2020
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. As of now, the Allen county mailing list has 32 subscribers. In light of this list closing on March 2nd, with the full knowledge of the list owner - Susan Penn Groover, I have set up a new home for this list. I've recently set up similar homes for other Rootsweb lists that will be going defunct next month. In my next email, I'll send you further information regarding this and how to join the new home for this list. Tim Stowell Chattanooga

    02/18/2020 09:57:48
    1. [KSALLEN] Leave a Farewell Message
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/13/2020 12:33:19
    1. [KSALLEN] Ramblings from the Backseat
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

    01/12/2020 01:18:16
    1. [KSALLEN] Re: Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Michele/Steve Heiderer
    3. Why do we need to unsubscribe if the lists are being shut down anyway?? Just wondering….I for one will miss the activity on rootsweb emailing lists. I have helped many people over the years and in turn, received much help. This move by ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com/> doesn’t surprise me as they generally don’t support anything that is free. I wonder what will happen to findagrave down the road now that they own it too. Sad…. Michele > On Jan 11, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Susan Penn Groover <vanmeter.historian@gmx.us> wrote: > > *** Allen County Kansas [KSALLEN] Mailing List *** > > /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ > > > > With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave > early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to > ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership > to list please do the following: > > > Insert or substitute listname before dash. > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > email with no additional text. > > OR > > A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. > > > Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered > an act of kindness. > > > _______________________________________________ > Allen County Kansas [KSALLEN] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_County,_Kansas > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Allen_County,_Kansas_Genealogy > > [KSGenWeb] http://www.ksgenweb.org/allen/index.html > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.kansas.counties.allen/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ksallen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 05:06:18
    1. [KSALLEN] Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

    01/11/2020 09:18:04
    1. [KSALLEN] Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

    01/10/2020 07:47:39
    1. [KSALLEN] Update
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Hi everyone! This has been heavy on my heart since Ancestry / Roots Web announcement. I have been admin / moderator for various mailing lists for 25+ years (some lists that predate Roots Web). The options for change do not fit my personal criteria. This is, also, not happening at a time I am able to give personal time for this change. Plus, I think Ancestry is not given an adequate “heads up” for this change. (I personally admin 200+ lists) So I have made the decision to become a subscriber as opposed to an administrator. I will remain admin to the mailing lists I currently admin till Roots Web makes the changes they propose on March 2^nd . I am leaving the decision for change to the list members. I am still gathering options. I will post suggestions in the next few days. The major option I am hearing is Facebook. I suppose this could work. But Facebook, in my humble opinion, would be turning a mailing list into a message board. And various mailing list members have stated they would not Facebook. Personally, I am in this bucket. I have personal issues with Facebook. Open discussion on the list. Voice your opinion. Enough for now. Will post more on other options in the future. Susan Penn Groover, List Administrator --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/09/2020 07:35:52
    1. [KSALLEN] Free access to Ancestry.com's immigration records
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. Free access to Ancestry.com's immigration records until Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:59 p.m. ET. http://www.ancestry.com/cs/us/april_immigration_campaign Deb

    04/16/2015 01:30:56
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. I was in the Iola library this February, for hours. The staff was extremely helpful...then left me alone to "dig" I was at the courthouse, 2 cemeteries to tramp around, and over to the almost empty Neosho Falls. It's cemetery was full of my family surname (g grandfather's brothers and on down.). Everybody I came in contact with was helpful, especially the lady who helped me in the cemeteries. Call the library. They will tell you about the newspaper collection, which I found fascinating, but, I don't remember exactly how far back they go. good luck.....you don't have Laymon in your line, or do you? N Laymon martin ____________________________________________________________ Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/551efd3439e737d3450fbst04vuc

    04/03/2015 02:49:47
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. Chanute newspaper is at the link Sheryl provided, which is just south of Iola/Humboldt. I forget about that now that I have access to the Kansas papers on newspapers.com! The indexes for the paper are only for deaths and I believe some marriages and births. But what you can do before you go is create a free account on Newspaperarchives.com, which has the Iola Register. You can then search the paper and it will give you the date and page, along with a snippit. Just note the date and page and then you can look it up on the microfilm. I have done this many times! They do allow you one free view every 24 hours. I am not sure if newspapers.com allows that with out a paid account. l too, have access to the news papers that Sheryl has. I also have the index to obits in the Iola Register, 1875-1919, and Allen County marriage licenses 1856 - 1925. And the Allen County Cemetery index. Deb -----Original Message----- Laura, you are probably already aware of this, but perhaps someone else reading these posts is not. The "Iola Register" 1865-1902 is online, free at ChroniclingAmerica: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83040340/ The Humboldt Union, years 1867-1869 and 1876-1922, and the "Iola Register" 1903 onward are on Newspapers.com. If anyone reading this needs look-up in those two papers (up through 1922) I would be happy to do see what I can find. Please contact me at my Gmail address, mkat72 Sheryl On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bradley Koehn via <ksallen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I will be visiting Allen County this summer. Are there any genealogical > libraries in this county? > > Laura Koehn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2015 10:38:23
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. sittinginthebasement . via
    3. Laura, you are probably already aware of this, but perhaps someone else reading these posts is not. The "Iola Register" 1865-1902 is online, free at ChroniclingAmerica: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83040340/ The Humboldt Union, years 1867-1869 and 1876-1922, and the "Iola Register" 1903 onward are on Newspapers.com. If anyone reading this needs look-up in those two papers (up through 1922) I would be happy to do see what I can find. Please contact me at my Gmail address, mkat72 Sheryl On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bradley Koehn via <ksallen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I will be visiting Allen County this summer. Are there any genealogical > libraries in this county? > > Laura Koehn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/03/2015 10:10:24
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. You will probably have a long wait! Kansas isn’t really good on letting records out! As you can see just by looking at what Familysearch has available for Kansas. Also, on the subject of probate records, I “think” there is an index book at the library, but has been years since I looked for it! Deb From: sittinginthebasement . Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:26 To: Debbie (Ks) ; ksallen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries Checking probate records is a great idea, Deb, since they usually list the person's heirs. And the probate records for Allen Co. do go back to 1858. I'm waiting patiently (tapping foot) for Familysearch to get Kansas probate records online as they have for a couple other of my states of interest. Sheryl

    04/03/2015 09:48:36
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. sittinginthebasement . via
    3. Checking probate records is a great idea, Deb, since they usually list the person's heirs. And the probate records for Allen Co. do go back to 1858. I'm waiting patiently (tapping foot) for Familysearch to get Kansas probate records online as they have for a couple other of my states of interest. Sheryl On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Debbie via <ksallen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Iola Library has an extensive genealogy section. And the librarians are > very > helpful. > > As to the newspapers, the earliest was The Allen County Courant, as Sheryl > said. started in 1867. > > They do have death registers, but I am not sure if they go back that early. > If he had an estate, you may be able to find something at the register of > deeds office at the court house. > > You can search the card catalog at the link below, just choose Iola > Library, > either through the basic or advance search. I find it kind of awkward to > search. :) > http://www.seknfind.org/ > > > Deb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bradley Koehn via > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 1:32 > To: KSALLEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KSALLEN] Libraries > > I will be visiting Allen County this summer. Are there any genealogical > libraries in this county? > > Laura Koehn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/03/2015 09:26:38
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. Iola Library has an extensive genealogy section. And the librarians are very helpful. As to the newspapers, the earliest was The Allen County Courant, as Sheryl said. started in 1867. They do have death registers, but I am not sure if they go back that early. If he had an estate, you may be able to find something at the register of deeds office at the court house. You can search the card catalog at the link below, just choose Iola Library, either through the basic or advance search. I find it kind of awkward to search. :) http://www.seknfind.org/ Deb -----Original Message----- From: Bradley Koehn via Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 1:32 To: KSALLEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [KSALLEN] Libraries I will be visiting Allen County this summer. Are there any genealogical libraries in this county? Laura Koehn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2015 08:19:07
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] Newspapers
    2. sittinginthebasement . via
    3. The earliest paper they have at the History Center in Topeka for Allen Co. is 1867, except for a Humboldt paper that was published only four months in 1865. However, depending on what part of the county he lived, a neighboring county paper may have carried news of his death. For example, in neighboring Bourbon Co., there were two or three Fort Scott newspapers published during 1863. Sheryl On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Bradley Koehn via <ksallen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > When do newspapers begin in Allen County? I am wondering if it is worth > looking for an obituary for my Henry Terrill who died in 1863. > > Laura Koehn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/03/2015 07:35:26
    1. [KSALLEN] Libraries
    2. Bradley Koehn via
    3. I will be visiting Allen County this summer. Are there any genealogical libraries in this county? Laura Koehn

    04/03/2015 07:32:32
    1. [KSALLEN] Newspapers
    2. Bradley Koehn via
    3. When do newspapers begin in Allen County? I am wondering if it is worth looking for an obituary for my Henry Terrill who died in 1863. Laura Koehn

    04/03/2015 07:24:36
    1. [KSALLEN] Genealogy Gophers--new site/digital genealogy books
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. More Than 40,000 Digital Genealogy Books Now Fully Searchable and Downloadable for Free at GenGophers.com A new website enables genealogists for the first time to have free, easy, and precise searching of family history books https://www.gengophers.com Deb

    03/04/2015 12:00:12
    1. Re: [KSALLEN] New Admin
    2. Debbie via (Ks)
    3. Hi Clare! Deb -----Original Message----- From: Clare via Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:35 To: KSALLEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [KSALLEN] New Admin Hello Listmembers, I am your new ListAdministrator, Clare Peden Midgley. If you have any concerns about the list, please feel free to email me at: BurghRoots@comcast.net with the list name in the subject. Thank you, Clare ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KSALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/11/2014 10:19:22