Hi, this is all very interesting. My great great grandfather, Louis Kruger, was born abut 1848 in Germany. He had a brother Frederick born in New York in 1850. Being a female, can I have DNA testing or does it have to be a male member of the family? I did have the National Geographc Genographic Project which placed me in Haploid Group "H". Marguerite Holmes Audrey Hancock <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Just wanted to let everyone know that we have been adding more and more participants to the CREAGER/KRIEGER, etc. Y-DNA Project. You can see RESULTS at this site and click on the charts to see lineage information for the participants. We are awaiting some lineage information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DN A/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20RESULTS.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/l16y Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is all interesting and I find it also interesting that most of the Kruger lines were from Eastern Prussia. My g grandfather was from Leip which is now in Poland. And, it is no longer called Leip. My grandmother was the Kruger so all the family is still in Germany. My grandmother is the only one who came to America. -- Gail Meyer Kilgore SC AZ GenWeb ASC CO GenWeb

Hello, Marguerite, The Y-DNA Project requires a male individual bearing one of the surnames of the group...KRUGER in your case. Since Y-DNA is that part of the genes passed from father to son which makes a person a male, only males inherit it. Since it is much easier in the case of genealogy to trace descendancy based on a male's surname, since in most cases the surname is passed from father to son through the generations along with the Y-DNA. There is a test (mtDNA) for women, but since women change their names when getting married, the surname lineages get lost and old records don't help much either, as if records are to be found women's maiden names are usually not given...they merely become Mrs. John Doe or Mary Doe, wife of John Doe or not even mentioned. In tracking lines per genealogy sake at this time, we have to resort to a male in the family. So...frequently females sponsor a male cousin, uncle, brother, or like bearing the surname (Kruger) of interest. I don't know anything about the National Genographic Project and its goals, nor how it would work in conjunction with family history and the goals of FamilyTree DNA company's results. FamilyTree DNA company as I understand use junk genes in their process, which means it does not identify paternity, health problems, etc., but can only tell you if you are a descendant of a particular line with the surname of interest. Of course, one could discover through this process that their markers/Alleles do not match those of others of their family group. In this case, one would have to consider a variety of reasons: adoption, illegitimacy, alias, etc. somewhere in the genealogical line. Hope this helps. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: holmes family [mailto:pelican6127@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:07 PM To: hancock6132@sbcglobal.net; kruger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KRUGER] DNA INFORMATION UPDATED Hi, this is all very interesting. My great great grandfather, Louis Kruger, was born abut 1848 in Germany. He had a brother Frederick born in New York in 1850. Being a female, can I have DNA testing or does it have to be a male member of the family? I did have the National Geographc Genographic Project which placed me in Haploid Group "H". Marguerite Holmes Audrey Hancock <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Just wanted to let everyone know that we have been adding more and more participants to the CREAGER/KRIEGER, etc. Y-DNA Project. You can see RESULTS at this site and click on the charts to see lineage information for the participants. We are awaiting some lineage information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc% 20DN A/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20RESULTS.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/l16y Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK. my est will be invalid as I am female. How do I get information so a few of my male kruger cousins can be tested? Marguerite Holmes holmes family <pelican6127@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi, this is all very interesting. My great great grandfather, Louis Kruger, was born abut 1848 in Germany. He had a brother Frederick born in New York in 1850. Being a female, can I have DNA testing or does it have to be a male member of the family? I did have the National Geographc Genographic Project which placed me in Haploid Group "H". Marguerite Holmes Audrey Hancock wrote: Just wanted to let everyone know that we have been adding more and more participants to the CREAGER/KRIEGER, etc. Y-DNA Project. You can see RESULTS at this site and click on the charts to see lineage information for the participants. We are awaiting some lineage information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DN A/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20RESULTS.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/l16y Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is our homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DN A/CREAGER%20DNA%20HOME.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/4cfky And...then there is other informational links on the left in the green part. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: kruger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kruger-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of holmes family Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:34 PM To: kruger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KRUGER] DNA INFORMATION UPDATED OK. my est will be invalid as I am female. How do I get information so a few of my male kruger cousins can be tested? Marguerite Holmes holmes family <pelican6127@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi, this is all very interesting. My great great grandfather, Louis Kruger, was born abut 1848 in Germany. He had a brother Frederick born in New York in 1850. Being a female, can I have DNA testing or does it have to be a male member of the family? I did have the National Geographc Genographic Project which placed me in Haploid Group "H". Marguerite Holmes Audrey Hancock wrote: Just wanted to let everyone know that we have been adding more and more participants to the CREAGER/KRIEGER, etc. Y-DNA Project. You can see RESULTS at this site and click on the charts to see lineage information for the participants. We are awaiting some lineage information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DN A/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20RESULTS.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/l16y Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KRUGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006