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    1. Re: Anthony Kruger/Infant
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Anthony Kruger/ Infant Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TZo.2ACIB/242.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes my parents did know where he was buried, but the my father never talked about the subject. My mother and father (1998) both passed away, my mother the last (2001). My mother had a black zipper bag with all the birth and the death cerificate. We cannot located this bag. So I need to start over.

    05/10/2004 05:53:51
    1. Re: Anthony Kruger/Infant
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/242.1 Message Board Post: What state? Don't your parents know where the cemetery is?

    05/10/2004 01:42:45
    1. Louis Schiffner-Marie Kruger 1883 Marriage - Hidi/Gowanda, NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/241 Message Board Post: Behind a photo of my grandmother, we found a fancy marriage certificate for Louis SCHIFFNER and Maria KRUGER of Hidi (near Gowanda), NY. The marriage was 10 July 1883 but the certificate was completed 15 September 1907, possible because they lost the original or maybe didn't apply for a certificate at the time of the wedding. The certificate is in German but the names and dates are clear. Witnesses are Franz (?) Emil SCHIFFNER and Anna SCHIFFNER. I will gladly send the original if this is part of your family. Maybe you could help me figure out why it was behind a photo of my grandmother (Louisa Fredericks MANGES), who never lived in Gowanda! ~Carol in Detroit [chornung@comcast.net]

    04/29/2004 12:07:30
    1. Re: KRUGER, Johann & Sophia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TZo.2ACIB/194.2 Message Board Post: They are my gggg grandparents. Their son Karl Fredrich William Krueger, his daughter Wilhelmina Lydia Krueger, her daughter Hedwig Cena Bleck, her daughter Jean Marie Baumann, her son Russell King, his daughter Emily King (me). any questions?

    04/16/2004 03:39:07
    1. [KRUGER] KRUGER_Albert_1896-1954.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRUGER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/240 Message Board Post: KRUGER_Albert_1896-1954.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Rose Hill Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 69,089 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    03/24/2004 07:29:29
    1. [KRUGER] KRUGER_Paul_1905-1961_.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRUGER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/239 Message Board Post: KRUGER_Paul_1905-1961_.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Rose Hill Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 69,089 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    03/24/2004 02:34:40
    1. [KRUGER] Louis Schiffner-Marie Kruger 1883 Marriage - Hidi/Gowanda, NY
    2. Carol Hornung
    3. Behind a photo of my grandmother we found a fancy marriage certificate for Louis SCHIFFNER and Maria KRUGER of Hidi (near Gowanda), NY. The marriage was 10 July 1883 but the certificate was completed 15 September 1907, possibly because they lost the original or maybe didn't apply for a certificate at the time of the wedding. The certificate is in German but the names and dates are clear. Witnesses are Franz (?) Emil SCHIFFNER and Anna SCHIFFNER. I will gladly send the original if this is part of your family. Maybe you could help me figure out why it was behind a photo of my grandmother (Louisa Fredericks MANGES), who never lived in Gowanda! ~Carol in Detroit

    03/22/2004 02:35:54
    1. [KRUGER] KRUGER_Annie_1888-1966.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRUGER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/238 Message Board Post: KRUGER_Annie_1888-1966.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Rose Hill Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 69,089 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    03/18/2004 07:02:12
    1. [KRUGER] ADDRESS CHANGE
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/195.1 Message Board Post: roblyn1941@hotmail.com

    03/18/2004 05:09:26
    1. [KRUGER] KRUGER_Robert_1891-1959_.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRUGER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/237 Message Board Post: KRUGER_Robert_1891-1959_.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Rose Hill Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 69,089 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    03/18/2004 04:22:07
    1. [KRUGER] Obit. KRUGER, JACK
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TZo.2ACIB/235 Message Board Post: KRUGER, JACK February 2, 1913 to March 3, 2003 Born in Kulm, North Dakota, Jack came to San Diego in 1933 after joining the U.S. Navy where he served 5 years in the submarine service. He then worked in the Post Office for 30 years, where he retired in 1968 as supervisor of the Pacific Beach Post Office. He was an accomplished golfer and a member of the Stardust Country Club. When 18 holes on a regular course became too strenuous, he played the 9-hole Balboa Park Course until almost the end of his life. He was known to all as a kind, generous, humorous man. He was a member of Elks Lodge 1812 in El Cajon and past president of Pacific Beach Lions Club. He and Dorothy, his wife, made their home in Kensington. Besides his wife, Dorothy, he is survived by his daughter-in-law, Diane Kruger of Mt. Vernon, Wa.; two grandchildren, Victoria Mitchell and Eric Kruger, and one great-granddaughter Lauren Mitchell. A memorial service will be held Saturday, March 15, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. in the! third floor Solarium at Wesley Palms, 2404 Loring St, San Diego. Published in the San Diego Union-Tribune on 3/12/2003. (volunteer submission)

    03/08/2004 09:17:28
    1. [KRUGER] CREAGER-KRIEGER/etc. Project Continues
    2. Audrey Shields Hancock
    3. FYI: Just a reminder that our Y-DNA PROJECT is still open to participators, who wish to see which DNA FAMILY they connect with for further genealogical studying. Perhaps you or a group of family members would like to sponsor a representative for your family line. Some families are sharing in the cost of having a participator for their family lines. Information can be found via this clickable URL: http://tinyurl.com/l16n which will take you to this webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DN A/CREAGER-KRIEGERetc%20DNA%20HOME.html Audrey

    02/02/2004 05:23:56
    1. [KRUGER] where did Kruger's originate??
    2. Gail Meyer Kilgore
    3. > Allen, I used a program and it has been a long time ago so can't remember > where I found it but when I put in the name Kruger I was shocked to see > where the most Kruger's lived. They seem to be from the far Eastern part of > Germany and more to the north. My line came from Liep, which is in Poland > now. I have been able to get very little information on this line other > than what I found in the church records in Berlin. I have no idea where my > gg grandparents died or when. I have no idea where or when my g > grandparents died and my g grandfather migrated to the Wilhelmshaven area to > work in the ship yards as a carpenter. There are no records of their deaths > in the Wilhelmshaven records. He met my g grandmother in the Wilhelmshaven > area and she is from Ostfriesland but the work was not in Ostfriesland but > in building ships in Wilhelmshaven. > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen" <akrueger@frontiernet.net> > To: <KRUGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:33 PM > Subject: [KRUGER] where did Kruger's originate?? > > > > Hi Kruger Listers > > I was wondering if anyone has plotted out on a European map where the > Kruger's lived in Europe. According to the following email from the > NORDRHEIN-WESTFALEN-D-request@rootsweb.com group it would seem that the > Kruger's would have come from a small area (cluster) in Europe and then > spread out as time progressed through the ages. What I am thinking of > is -where did the Kruger's originate from?- what small region (cluster) or > village?? > > Below is the email from the above group: > > "Hi Listers, > > > > it has already been explained by Roy that the amount of ancestors of every > > living person is reduced and cannot be seen arithmetical. I want to add > > that the more I come back in my ancestry the more I see how true this is. > I > > have, for example, some 11G-grandparents who are seven times my > > 11G-grandparents! And what I remarked, too, is that there are certain > > "clusters" of ancestors in some lines. This has to do with the small > > villages they were living in or with certain professions they had where it > > was requested to marry each other or with property that way lying > nearby... > > So, sometimes I find a name of a family and I know immediately that > another > > family cannot be far, this helps sometimes in my researches. Normally > there > > has always been one who left that "cluster" and married into another one, > > there are many possible reasons for that. But this worked very slowly. I'm > > quite far back in a lot of lines and so far I can find all of my ancestors > > from my father's side in the left Rhine region and Belgium and all of my > > ancestors on my mother's side in a small region around a town in > > Brandenburg. I suppose that this "regional clustering" is the same for the > > ancestry of most of the people in Germany, because there were so many > > little states and it was not that easy to move from one to another - > > "exceptions confirm the rule" as we say in Germany. I would say that a > > greater mobility came with industrialization and the wars of the 19th and > > 20th century - so for very few generations! Therefor I suppose that in > > german family research one should always think "regional" and not > > "national".... > > > > Greetings, > > > > Monika" > > > > ______________________________ > > Allen > > > > > > ==== KRUGER Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004

    01/18/2004 02:40:31
    1. [KRUGER] where did Kruger's originate??
    2. Allen
    3. Hi Kruger Listers I was wondering if anyone has plotted out on a European map where the Kruger's lived in Europe. According to the following email from the NORDRHEIN-WESTFALEN-D-request@rootsweb.com group it would seem that the Kruger's would have come from a small area (cluster) in Europe and then spread out as time progressed through the ages. What I am thinking of is -where did the Kruger's originate from?- what small region (cluster) or village?? Below is the email from the above group: "Hi Listers, it has already been explained by Roy that the amount of ancestors of every living person is reduced and cannot be seen arithmetical. I want to add that the more I come back in my ancestry the more I see how true this is. I have, for example, some 11G-grandparents who are seven times my 11G-grandparents! And what I remarked, too, is that there are certain "clusters" of ancestors in some lines. This has to do with the small villages they were living in or with certain professions they had where it was requested to marry each other or with property that way lying nearby... So, sometimes I find a name of a family and I know immediately that another family cannot be far, this helps sometimes in my researches. Normally there has always been one who left that "cluster" and married into another one, there are many possible reasons for that. But this worked very slowly. I'm quite far back in a lot of lines and so far I can find all of my ancestors from my father's side in the left Rhine region and Belgium and all of my ancestors on my mother's side in a small region around a town in Brandenburg. I suppose that this "regional clustering" is the same for the ancestry of most of the people in Germany, because there were so many little states and it was not that easy to move from one to another - "exceptions confirm the rule" as we say in Germany. I would say that a greater mobility came with industrialization and the wars of the 19th and 20th century - so for very few generations! Therefor I suppose that in german family research one should always think "regional" and not "national".... Greetings, Monika" ______________________________ Allen

    01/18/2004 01:33:18
    1. [KRUGER] Krugers in Pembroke, Onterio
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/234 Message Board Post: August and Minnie Kruger. August came to Canada in 1844? and settled in Pembroke were sister lived. Minnie (Kruger) Mielke. may have come to Canada at the same time.

    01/17/2004 02:35:55
    1. [KRUGER] Obit: Mildred Eve Kruger
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/233 Message Board Post: Albuquerque Journal - January 9, 2004 Mildred Eve Kruger, 80, a resident of Albuquerque, died Monday, January 5, 2004. She was born in Keysville, Georgia. Mrs. Kruger is survived by her husband of 61 years, Lester O. Kruger of Albuquerque; her children, Elizabeth Ann Hauge and husband, Jerald of Moriarty, Gerald W. Kruger of Jacksonville, FL, and Patricia E. Kruger and husband, Toby Clark of Charleston, SC; her grandchildren, Eric Hauge of Nevada, Joseph Hauge of Nevada, Jennie Robinson and husband, Garrett and their daughters, Sarah and Karen of North Dakota, Samuel Hauge and wife, Misty of Florida, Robert Hauge and wife Cheryl and their son, Thade of Albuquerque, JoAnne Bishop and husband, Nathan and their son, Trenton of Moriarty, and Rebecca Hauge of Moriarty; her brothers, Robert R. Eve and wife, Venita of Jacksonville, AR, and Billy Eve and wife, Joanne of Elk Grove, CA. She was preceded in death by her grandson, Alan Kruger, and her brother Hyden Eve. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to your favo! rite charity. French Mortuary 10500 Lomas Blvd. NE (505) 275-3500

    01/15/2004 09:01:03
    1. [KRUGER] Re: Otto Kruger the actor and Ernst Kruger
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/215.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. I still don't know if I have a connection or not. I need to find out who Otto's parents are and as yet have been unable to find this information. My Great Grandfather was Ernst Johann Wilhelm Kruger and mum said that he often mentioned that the actor Otto Kruger was his brother and that's all I have to go by.

    01/10/2004 03:42:54
    1. [KRUGER] Re: Otto Kruger the actor and Ernst Kruger
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TZo.2ACIB/215.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My g grandmother was Elizabeth Kruger (Krueger) daughter of Frederick & Fereda (?) Krueger. I have often heard stories from my grandmother that Otto was a cousin. Frederick & Fereda lived in Mercer County New Jersey. Do you have any connection with this family? Thank You, Helen

    01/10/2004 02:39:54
    1. [KRUGER] Germany, Karlsruhe Gisela Emma Auguste Kruger
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TZo.2ACIB/232 Message Board Post: Michael Glen Kruger born 11 July 1963 in Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany looking for his mother Gisela Emma Auguste Kruger and mother's family in Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany. Father serviceman placed for adoption in Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany. Trying to trace mother's ancestry.

    01/09/2004 12:55:33
    1. [KRUGER] Martha Kruger and August Hirsch
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kruger and Hirsch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TZo.2ACIB/231 Message Board Post: Looking for descendants of Martha Kruger b 1877 in Germany. Married August Hirsch also b 1877 in Germay. Bremen I think. They emigrated to Chicago, IL around 1893. They were approximately 16 years old, lost a child on the way. Had 6 more children in Chicago.

    12/26/2003 08:49:36