This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tropp or Tropf, Kraemer, Wilson, Burkybile, Flowers, Peppers, Robinson, Caldwell, Frain, Mause or Moss Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/83 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on John G and Mary Catherine NICOLOI Kraemer. John was born in Wurtemburg, Germany Dec 13, 1814. His father was Matias. Mary Catherine was born @1816 in Hesse-Darmstadt. I first find them, (I think) in the Jay County, Indiana census for 1840. There are more people listed in the family than I can account for by other records so I'm not sure I've really got the right folks here. That and the name is spelled "Kremer" in this case. I am positive about the 1850 Clark County, Illinois census. Anyone with possible tie-ins to Kraemers in Clark Co, OH and/or Clark Co, IL ( yes, they had children in Clark counties in two states) please contact me and we'll swap what info we have. Thank you, Darien