This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michauxCM Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kraemer/76.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching Kraemer or could be spelled Grammer. My grandmother was Magdelena Schuck. Her mother's name Eva Kraemer. My grandmother's grandfather was Lorence Grammer and he was married to Christine Hagel. They married Dec. 20, 1856 in Odessa. Do you think there is a connection? They lived in German colony in Odessa, Russia email me if so at bikom@telus.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.