This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margaretanddale Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kraemer/85.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the great granddaughter of Otto and Augusta. I have a table that was given to Augusta by her family for a wedding present. I have some information and have belonged to the geneology society in Dodge County off and on. My grandfather was Gust Kraemer. I have many reletives still in the Parker SD area. Would love to hear from you . Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kraemer/Klingenberg Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kraemer/145/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello..Looking for relatives to compare ancestry information for my Kraemer/Kramer line. All from Stuttgart, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg, Germany.. My GGgrandfather: Wilhelm Jacob Kramer/Kraemer, b. @23 Feb 1840, Married Maria Klengenberg/Klingenberg from Prussia in San Francisco in 1872. My GGGgranfather: Philipp Wilhelm Christoph Kraemer; b. 23 May 1801, married Louise Regine Umgelter in 1830. My GGGGgranfather: Andreas Wilhelm Kraemer b. 29 Nov 1774, d. 04 Apr 1819. Married Dorothea Friederika Staiger 17 Jun 1801. My GGGGGgrandfather: Johann Georg Kraemer b. 17 Apr 1736, d.?, married Eva Katharina Ruehle on 22 Jan 1760. My GGGGGGgranfather: Georg Wilhelm Kraemer b. 26 Feb 1699, d. 03 Jun 1744, m. Anna Maria Knoepfle on 30 Apr 1720. My GGGGGGGgrandfather: Johannes Kremer b. 16 May 1671, d. ?, m. Anna Maria Hess on 14 Nov 1694 That's as far as I got. If anyone has information on my Kraemer line, or any of their spouses, ESPECIALLY the spouse of my GGgrandfather Wilhelm Jacob Kramer/Kraemer who emigrated to San Francisco around 1870..(His wife is Maria Klengenberg/Klingenberg from Prussia), Please email me at peacejunkie@charter.net. Thanks so much! Laura Klingenberg Illinois

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/116 Message Board Post: found my birth family in 1997 now doing geneaolgy, bi-grandpa Loren Kraemer passed and lived alot of life in Marysville Ks. Just starting out Bmom don't know much Neena Kraemer-Solberg

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRAEMER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/96.1 Message Board Post: I am researching KRAEMERs in Worms. The people that I am looking at are earlier than the ones you know about (1700s). If you can fill in the years in between I may be able to take you back farther.

Hello Fellow List Members I found this and thought it may be of some help with the Holidays fast approaching and all the activities that will going on .Here are some questions you may forget to ask during your interviews. Shirley List Mom Guide for Interviewing Family Members The purpose of this questionaire is to guide you in recording the life experiences of a member of your family. The information you record will become an important link between you and your descendants. At the top of a sheet of paper write: the full name, and the date and place of birth of yourself, your mother (maiden name), your father, your brothers and sisters, your spouse,and your children: and the date and place of marriage for yourself, your brothers and sisters (with spouse's names),and your children (with spouse's names). Write your thoughts on sheets of good quality paper,numbering each answer to correspond to the appropriate question. Write your name on each sheet, too, and leave room to add new thoughts later. GRANDPARENTS 1. What were the names of your mother's parents? 2. When and where were they born and where did they live? 3. What did they do for a living? 4. Do you have personal memories of them? 5. What were the names of your father's parents? 6. When and where were they born and where did they live? 7. What did they do for a living? 8. Do you have personal memories of them? 9. Did you know your grandparents well? 10. What do you remember hearing about your GREAT- GRANDPARENTS ? 11. Did you ever meet them? 12. Did your great-grandparents, grandparents, or parents come to the US from a foreign country? Any stories told in your family about the crossing? Do you have any relatives in foreign countries? 13. What traditions are still practiced in your family? CHILDHOOD THE FAMILY HOUSE 14. What type of house did you live in as a child? 15. Other buildings on the same property? 16. If you moved during your childhood, tell where and when and what you can remember of each house and the family circumstances and the reason for the move. 17. In what room did you eat? Kitch? Dining room? 18. How was your home heated? 19. Did you have a fireplace? 20. What kind of kitchen stove did your parents cook on? 21. What fuel was used? 22. Did you have to buy the fuel or was this a chore, such as cutting wood, with which you had to help? 23. Did you always have electricity? If not, when did you get it? 24. Did you ever use candles or kerosene lamps? 25. Did your family have a cellar? Where did you store food? 26. Where did your family get water? Was it plentiful? What methods were used to conserve water? Family relations, responsibilities, conditions 27. What was your position in the family? Oldest? Youngest? 28. What were your duties as a small child? 29. Who cooked the meals? Who did the ironing? 30. Did you buy or make your own clothing? 31. When did you learn to cook and who taught you? 32. Did you ever learn to sew? Crochet? Knit? Embroider? And who taught you? 33. Did you ever learn the mechanics of a car and who taught you? 34. Did your family keep in touch with distant family? 35. Did you visit relatives often? 36. How did you get your mail? 37. What do you remember about family pets? 38. Were you especially close to anyone in the family? 39. How did the family spend its evenings? Family income and livelihood 40. What did your father do for a living? 41. Did your mother ever work outside of the home? 42. Did you contribute to the family income? 43. When did you get your first job outside of the family? 44. Did your family have a garden? 45. Who did the work on the garden? 46. What kinds of vegetables did you grow? 47. Did your family have fruit trees? 48. Who did the canning? 49. Did you raise chickens? 50. What kind of meat did you eat? 51. Did you keep a cow for milk? 52. Did you make your own butter and cheese? 53. Did anyone in the family sell eggs or butter? 54. If you lived on a farm, what crops were planted? 55. Who did the work? Family? Hired hands? Days, seasons, and special occasions 56. What did Saturday mean to you? 57. What did Sunday mean to you? 58. Did you attend church on Sunday? 59. Where did you attend church? 60. How did you spend Christmas? 61. What kinds of gifts did you receive at Christmas? 62. Did your family observe Easter? 63. How and where did you observe the Fourth of July? 64. How was your birthday celebrated? 65. What kinds of gifts did you receive on your birthday? 66. Did your family entertain often? When? 67. Did your family attend picnics? Family reunions? What do you remember about them? 68. How did you keep cool in the summer? 69. What did you wear in the winter to keep warm? 70. Do you remember any blizzards or tornadoes or floods? Friends and Games 71. What did you do for recreation? 72. Did you or your brothers or sisters have any hobbies? 73. Who was your best friend? 74. What did you and your friends do when you got together? 75. Did you and your playmates play any organized games? 76. Did you ever learn to swim? 77. Did you participate in youth organizations? School 78. Where did you go to school? 79. Did you ever attend a one-room schoolhouse? 80. How did you get to school? If you walked, how far? 81. What do you remember about these walks? Did you walk alone or with friends? 82. Were these walks a hardship in winter? Transportation and surroundings 83. Describe the size of the town where you lived or shopped. 84. Where did your parents shop? 85. How large or small were the stores? 86. If you lived in a small town or on the farm, did you ever go into the city to shop? 87. What was the largest town you remember visiting when you were young? 88. Did you ever travel on a train while you were young? 89. Did you or your family own a horse and buggy? 90. When did your family acquire its first car? What make? How much did it cost? 91. When did you learn to drive a car? 92. Where did your family go on vacation? Outlook 93. Whom did you admire most when you were young? 94. When you were small, what did you hope to do when you grew up? Higher Education and Career 95. What education did you get past high school? Did you study in your adult years? 96. Did your family support, oppose, or encourage you? 97. Who influenced you most and helped you to develop your skills? 98. Would you choose the same career if you had it to do over? Marriage and Later Life 99. When and where did you meet your husband or wife? 100. How and when did you get engaged? 101. When and where did you marry? 102. Did you go on a honeymoon? 103. Where was your first home? 104. What is your spouse's occupation? 105. Where and when were your children born? 106. Did you or your spouse go into military service? 107. If your husband went into service, what did you do while he was away? 108. What memories do you have of war years? 109. To what organizations have you belonged? 110. Have you been politically active during your lifetime? 111. Which presidents have you voted for? Philosophy and Outlook 112. Do you have a philosopy of life to share with your descendants? 113. Do you have a favorite philosopher, teacher, or writer who best expresses your philosophy? 114. Do you have religious leanings or strong religious beliefs? 115. In your opinion, which have been the greatest advances or inventions of all? 116. What things have given you the most pleasure or satisfaction? 117. Is there anything that has caused you perpetual concern? What events or trends have disturbed you most in your lifetime? 118. What has been your experience in regard to the following? a. Answers to prayers? b. Necessity and power of love? c. Will power as opposed to being ruled by one's feelings? 119. What do you consider to be your most important achievements? Abstracted from Virginia Allee's "A Family History Questionaire" in October 1978 FAMILY HERITAGE MAGAZINE.

Hello Folks Rootsweb is going through some changes. New Equipment etc. They are experiencing some problems (see below) Please if you have any problems postiong or receiving any list mail Please be Patient they will get things sorted out In the meantime please keep checking the lists Archives. Rest assured our lists are still up and running and everyone is still subscribed. You can also keep up with what is going on at Rootsweb by going to their Homepage and scroll down to the FAQ site. Happy Hunting Shirley List Mom 1 MAIL LIST MIGRATION: 2006-08-21 Mail List Migration on Hold We have run into an email delivery problem that affects our AOL list subscribers. In order to minimize the effect on AOL subscribers, the update of mailing lists D-Z has been delayed until the problem can be resolved. We will post an announcement here and update the schedule when the AOL problems have been resolved and we can begin migrating again. Thank you for your patience. RootsWeb mail lists will be moved to the new Mailman software starting Thursday, August 17. The lists will be moved in small groups, alphabetically. An email went out to inform list users of the change. If you have any questions, a list has been created list-update@rootsweb.com for discussion of the updates and answering questions during the transition. To subscribe to the list, send an email with the word "subscribe" in the subject line to: List-Update-request@rootsweb.com If you would like to subscribe to the list digest, please send an email with the word "subscribe" in the subject line to: List-Update-D-request@rootsweb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 AOL PROBLEM WITH LISTS9: 2006-08-21 Our mail lists have run into an AOL problem that significantly delays and/or deletes AOLer's list mail before it is delivered to their inbox. It also could cause some AOL subscribers to bounce and be unsubscribed from their list(s). This is happening primarily with the lists from lists9 which has most of the mailing lists that have been migrated to Mailman. We are doing everything we can to work with AOL to fix this. Users should make sure all list mail that gets directed to the spam folder is marked "This is not spam". They should also contact AOL directly about the delay and deletion of their list mail. We apologize for the inconvenience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 DIGESTS IN MAILMAN: 2006-08-21 The default for digests in Mailman is plain text. If you prefer MIME and your ISP can handle that, email the admin to 'uncheck' the plain text button for your subscription. MIME is not recommended for AOLers. Email the admin at: LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com where you replace LISTNAME with the actual name of the list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 Confused about the new registration?: 2006-07-06 The new registration is stage one of a process to integrate all of the programs you use at RootsWeb into one account. Although the My Account page lists all of the services you subscribe to, we have not yet fully integrated each service. For example, if you have one or more WorldConnect user codes, the 'edit' link in My Account will allow you to access the user edit page of each GEDCOM file you have included in WorldConnect. Mailing lists integration, however, has not been completed so although you can unsubscribe to a mailing list through My Account, you cannot yet change your email address for that mailing list through this new tool. When the new message boards are launched, logging in to RootsWeb will automatically log you into message boards. The old (current) message boards will not be included in My Account. We apologize for the confusion.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRAEMER, SHERMAN Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/115 Message Board Post: Source: The Washington Post June 20, 2006 VA, MD, DE, WDC areas NOTE: No connection to this family. Information is posted solely for the benefit of those researching this surname. A picture was printed with the original obit. Of Alexandria, VA died on Sunday, June 18, 2006 peacefully at her home. She had bladder cancer. Wife of the late Col. William F. Kraemer. She is survived by her loving daughter, Karen Kraemer-Sherman and son-in-law, Joseph Sherman; two step-grandchildren, two step great-grandchildren, loving nephew and nieces. Friends may call at the Demaine Funeral Home, 520 S. Washington St., Alexandria, VA 22312 where the family will be present on Monday, June 26, from 6 to 8 pm. A memorial service will be held on Tuesday, June 27, at 1 pm at Aldersgate United Methodis Church, 1301 Collingwood Rd., Alexandria, VA 22308. Interment Arlington National Cemetery will be private. Inlieu of flowers, a gift in her memory may be made to Capital Hospice, 4715 North 15th St., Arlington, VA 22205 or INOVA Alexandria Hostial Foundation, Bladder Cancer Center Research, 4320 Seminary Rd. Alexandria, VA 22304

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kraemer, Franz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/114 Message Board Post: Franz and wife Augusta Schultz had 9 children, Edward Otto, Emil Wilhelm, Elizabeth, Pauline, Carl Alfred, Walter, Bertha, Gertrude Frieda, and Kurt A. Edward is my grandfather we have some info on some of the downline and would like to learn more about other downlines.

OUr line is through K(C)atherine K(C)raemer born 5 Dec 1804 in Rebersburg, Northumberland (Centre), Pennsylvania who married George Heintzelman born May 2 1800 in Lynn Twp, Northampton (Lehigh), Pennsylvania. They and their family moved west and died in Illinois in Will County. If you are of any relation to this family, please let me know. K(C)atherine's parents are Georg Johannes K(Craemer) and Regina Phillipina Heringer both of Germany. Please keep in touch if we are related! Thanks Anna Heintzelman >From: kekraemer@comwares.net >Reply-To: KRAEMER-L@rootsweb.com >To: KRAEMER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KRAEMER] Re: Kraemer - John G and Mary Catherine NICOLOI Ohio >1837 >Date: 31 May 2006 21:34:31 -0600 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/83.1 > >Message Board Post: > >We are related to John G Kramer/Kraemer of Clark Co., Ilinois, after 4 >years hope you are still interested in sharing info...please contact us > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/83.1 Message Board Post: We are related to John G Kramer/Kraemer of Clark Co., Ilinois, after 4 years hope you are still interested in sharing info...please contact us

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kraemer Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/113 Message Board Post: stz-online: Aramis, * 25. Nov. 2005 in Bad Salzungen; Eltern: Lyubov und Michael Krämer aus Bad Liebenstein

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hinn, KRAEMER, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/112 Message Board Post: Looking for info or photos on Fred Kraemer, a farmer who married Elisabeth Hinn around 1869. They had two sons Alvin & Alfred and farmed 70 acres in Empire Township. Please reply to pete_hinn@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCombes, Kraemer, Ringo, Fisher, Shahan, Calderon, Lowe Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3hn.2ACEB/111 Message Board Post: Darrell L. Kraemer, 72, of Terre Haute died at 4:44 a.m. Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005, in his residence. He retired from Midland Glass Co., then worked for the Vigo County Highway Dept. He was born Nov. 22, 1933, in Terre Haute to Hubert Kraemer and Olive McCombs Kraemer. Survivors include Beverly Shahan Calderon Kraemer; three daughters, Rhonda Ringo and her husband, Mike, Jacqueline Fisher and her husband, Duane and Susan Kraemer and her companion, Danny Roberson; one brother, Orval Kraemer and his wife, Judy; one sister-in-law, Mary Kraemer; four grandchildren, Darrell, Andrea, Vaughn and Alexis Cox; five great-grandchildren; and several nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his parents; his stepfather, Peter Lowe; and one brother, Joe Kraemer. He was a Marine Corps veteran of the Korean War, a 50-year member of American Legion Krietenstein Post 104, a member of 40 and 8, Veterans of Foreign Wars Lawton Byrum Post 972, Valley Field and Stream, Murdock Racing Club, Fraternal Order of Eagles and Marine Corps League 471. Services are 1 p.m. Thursday in DeBaun Springhill Chapel, with the Rev. Eugene Schmitt officiating. Burial is in Roselawn Memorial Park, with graveside military rites by Marine Corps League 471. Visitation is 4 to 8 p.m. today in the funeral home. Terre Haute IN Tribune 13 dec 2005 - not a relative, no further info

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRAEMER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/110 Message Board Post: KRAEMER_1_.JPG KRAEMER_1_Mildred_and_Stanbery.JPG I took these two Kraemer gravestone photographs in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Stephan Austin Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use these pictures for your personal records. These are some of the 132,883 cemetery photos free for your personal use at http://teafor2.com

A dream coming true. The Family History Library is starting to digitize their book holdings, mostly family histories to date, and they are putting them on-line, fully search able by any word or advanced search combinations. Five thousand plus of these books are on the Brigham Young University Library servers and readily accessible, NOW! Here is a partial clip of an announcement I just received and I have only made a quick check of how to find them and how to search, but it is very exciting "The LDS Family History Library has announced that it has begun the process of digitizing and making available on the Internet all of the Family History books in their collection. These are primarily books in the "929.273Series" that are currently housed on the first floor of the Family History Library (previously housed on the fourth floor of the Joseph Smith Memorial Building). At the present time (September 2005), about 5000 books have been digitized and are available, and they have announced that they are adding about 100 titles a week to the on-line collection. Copyright issues are playing a role in determining the order in which they progress through this task; books out of copyright are being done first." Go to the web site of the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU at http://www.lib.byu.edu/ , then on the home page, follow the links:Find Other Materials; Electronic; On Line Collections at BYU; Text Collections tab; Family History Archive from the list of collections that are displayed. The search box on the left seems to be he one to find your books at and the search box on the right is for searching within the pages on screen. Have Fun Searching Shirley Fergus List Mom

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kraemer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/108 Message Board Post: I looking for any info on Lorenz the spelling could be different. What I know is, he was born about 12-7-1874 or 1873, somewhere aroundMunich, Germany. He immigrated somewhere between 1898 - 1903.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/107 Message Board Post: Catherine was b. 28 Jul 1790 in probably Lancaster Co., PA. d. Aft. 1870 in Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA., bef. 1880. She married Peter CREAMER (KRAEMER/KRAMER/CRAMER), abt. 1818, he was b. 22 Dec 1793 in Lancaster Co., PA., d. 11 Dec 1865, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. Names were taken from family bible, with b. dates given. Children: 1 Sarah CREAMER, b. 9 Jan 1819, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 2. George CREAMER, b. 1 Mar 1821, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 3. Phillip CREAMER, b. 8 Jun 1823, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 4. Eva CREAMER, b. 11 Oct 1826, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 5. Mary CREAMER, b. 10 Jan 1828, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 6. Leah Ann Creamer, b. 8 Aug 1830, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. 7. Martin CREAMER, b. 21 Nov 1833, Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. I've not been able to find a marriage record, or death record. I even hired a professional, and so far nothing. I have a lot of other info on Peter's ancestors and descendants. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank You.

Hello Everyone I would like to thank Kathie Harrison of the Lancaster Co., NE GenWeb Project for the following. I hope everyone will take time to read it and remember it. Shirley List Mom Since we are fast approaching summer and many of you are out there enjoying vacations or trips of a genealogical nature, please be sure to share with us, your new found cousins, family history and research tips or plans. The lists tend to get a bit quiet this time of year and there are also many who can't travel or otherwise research outside the home. We are more tied to our computers for that research and friendship in our family history quest. So...........I think it would be great to take this opportunity to post something. Who is your most elusive ancestor as in connection to this specific list? What are your goals? Do you have tips to share? A genealogy web site, perhaps? A flair for writing and sharing a family story or tradition with us? I will try to prod the list from time to time for some good posts to keep our list alive and kicking. Please jump in when ready, just as if you were jumping into the pool....the Gene Pool. ;-)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRAEMER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3hn.2ACEB/106 Message Board Post: KRAEMER_Cleo_WITT_1902-1987.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Sunset Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 120,400 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

Hello Fellow List Members! I have been saying for a long long time that posting pays off and today it paid off for me. I am writting to share my good news with you in hopes that you will post more often, with all or more information then you have already shared. Im sending this snippet to you so that you can see that things do happen here at rootsweb if you havent had a response yet.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A reply has been posted to your message, "Emma LAYCOCK ( FINAN / FYNAN)" on "9 May 2002 8:05 AM GMT". Board : Boards > Surnames > Fynan Subject : Re: Emma LAYCOCK ( FINAN / FYNAN) Author : ***** ****** Date : 26 Apr 2005 12:07 PM GMT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My post was sent and listed as 9 May 2002 and today i got the response and it is 26 April 2005...almost 3 years to get a reply but it is here and it is exactly who i was looking for! There is hope folks! I know that this surname will not pertain to many of the lists that i send this message out to, but i wanted you to see in general that there is hope out there. Please re-post your information so that it is in the freshest part of the archives. If you havent posted yet, let this be your inspiration!. I know some are saying "3 years is an awfully long time" but if your anything like me you will have been searching those 3 years or better already and one day your search for that illusive ancestor will end, and they will be in their rightful place in your genealogical history. Shirley Fergus, List Mom