In a message dated 11/11/2001 9:17:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Thanks Patty, i think John Winders died ca 1805, so she could have remarried, but the age different is big, he was b ca 1729 thanks >> Well, Christine, knowing how these folks did names, I would not be surprised to find that the Patsy TURNAGE who married Martin KORNEGAY was named after an earlier Martha TURNAGE. Pat