Hello Jerry, I need your help. I need your Uncle Tony's birth date? His correct name is Douglas Albert or Albert Douglas? Thank you too for your tip on PAF... I have noticed lots of people are speaking about Family Tree Maker. I hope they are aware they can contribute to the Ancestral File with LDS Church and there is no charge for acquisition of their materials except for copies which I believe are a nickel or dime. Folks you can't beat those prices. Your genealogy work is assured safe guarding for sharing with others for generations to come. The PAF program is about $15.00 for dos or windows. What a bargain. Thank you---Jerry for forming this list serv and for everyone sharing with one another. It is great. Gayle W. Licari Tarheel at Heart