Hi Matt, Now I liked that about the "us' & "sa. Quaint! So if you are alive, it is Narcissus and if you are dead, it is Narcissa. Got it. I learned something new. I also have a Narcissia in my line. It has always been a debate whether she was Narcissus or Narcissia. In her marriage record, it was Narcissia. Just a month ago, I found some 5th cousins living in FL who have a whole bunch of letters written before 1900 and everyone called her "'Cissy". Have a good evening. <G> Sue in CA