Just a couple of comments. I may add it is so good to see all of the researchers interacting again. First about the date. In 1929 Dr. Colier Cobb of the Uni. of NC gave a very interesting speech to the Annual Meeting of The Descendants of the Palatines which was started in 1914. Anyway, Dr. Cobb gave a very interesting and indepth history of the Palentines from 945 to the ones who came with DeGraffenried. He said"In England, these people lived in tents from the early summer of 1709 until they sailed in mild weather in January, 1710". He told that DeGraffenreid received five and a half pounds a piece for the 650 Palatines. He was not able to travel with them but he appointed 3 directors, notables from NC then in London, one of them a LAWSON, he said that the contract that DeGraffenreid made was still in existance. I think I read that they came on 3 ships. Dr. Cobb said, and he quotes, " In the group then were French Protestants from Guienne and from Gascony. a few French Swiss, German Swiss, and Germans from beyond the Palantinate. He goes on to tell the interesting story of John Martin FRANCKE a young German who evidently met and fell in love with Sevil MULLER on the way and changed his destination from Boston to New Bern. Dr. Cobb said she was the daughter of Jacob and Katherine MULLER, who came with their children to New Bern from the Palatinate in 1710". I have not done much at all on the FISHER Family but in my FISHER notes I have that Mary FISHER was born ca 1700 and married George KORNEGAY ca 1729 and died ca 1759. From: Winter 1969 Issue of North Carolina Genealogy: NC Council Minutes, & Wills & Invs., 1677-1701 p. 167-Power of Attorney- 14 of 11 mo. 1683- George FISHER of Albemarle Co., Marriner, to Thomas SYMONS of same. Proven Pascotank Pct. Cpurt 1691. p. 169-Re: merchandise shipped by Thos. HARVEY to Island of Barbados. Signed: George FICHER m 1690/91 (could be misprint for FISHER) 20 Dec 1749 Thomas SMITH a planter made his will in Craven Co NC. Witness of this will was Jacob MILLER, George (X) KORNEGAY, George FISHER. 31 Mar 1747 Will of Randolph (X) FISHER-Craven Co NC O,primis: TO my well beloved son Thomas FISHER 1 Negro man named Sam & 1 Negroe Woman named Bell and 1 feather Bed furniture & 2 iron pots 1 large the other small &Cract.4 puter Basones. 2 puter Dishes & 8 puter plates, 1 iorn Skillit, F13:15 in current Cash or the Valley(value?wph)in this provience Bills. Item: To my well beloved son George FISHER 4 young Negroes namely Toney, Tom & Sambo & Sorey also all of my ready money Goods Chattles Debts & c. after my Debts & Legacy payd. EXR. Son George FISHER.. Wit George GRAHAM, Tom MATCHETT. Richard BATH. Craven Co Ct. at New Bern 3d Tues Jun 1751. Proved by George GRAHAM Lres,Granted issued 15 Jul 1751. There was a William FISHER in Carteret Co NC. In a message dated 7/22/2013 7:20:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Kathlynn3@aol.com writes: Thanks Matt, I can always depend on you to give us valuable information about the spelling and pronunciation in German and English. NOTE you said: they came in 1708....CORRECTION THEY DEPARTED England Jan. 1709.....I think you probably just inadvertently hit the wrong key and I'm only mentioning it in order to eliminate any possibility of an incorrect date being carried forth, we have enough of that already......KWIM? LOL! In a message dated 7/22/2013 3:25:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mward39@bellsouth.net writes: Someone in the group found a listing for a family that came with the Baron von Graffenreid's colony in 1708 that was listed as Krenig. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KORNEGAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message