Hi Patty, Yes, I have Dr Cobbs speech also and I'm aware he said they came in 1710. However, because I've also seen claims they came in 1708, 1709, 1710, etc. etc. I tried to stay focused on the documents, especially regarding the date they came, and NOT on claims found in various publications 200 years later. And the NC petition documents that George signed clearly states they came in 1709. To re-iterate I think the Julian Calendar used at this time is the culprit....and I've seen other situations although it started out with someone plainly stating the double date....example 1709/10 and then later see it quoted as only 1710??!! ~Kathlynn~ ____________________________________ From: Pattyca103@aol.com Reply-to: kornegay@rootsweb.com To: kornegay@rootsweb.com Sent: 7/22/2013 7:57:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: Re: [KORNEGAY] IsThisJohnKrenigFamilyOurImmigrantAncestors/fatherOfGeorgeKorn... First about the date. In 1929 Dr. Colier Cobb of the Uni. of NC gave a very interesting speech to the Annual Meeting of The Descendants of the Palatines which was started in 1914. Anyway, Dr. Cobb gave a very interesting and indepth history of the Palentines from 945 to the ones who came with DeGraffenried. He said"In England, these people lived in tents from the early summer of 1709 until they sailed in mild weather in January, 1710".