Hi! Does any one need the Rev War info on John Ward (b) 25 Mar 1756 on Deep River, NC (d) 1837 at Moores Creek Bridge. Also, Samuel Ward, William Ward (b) in Pitt Co, NC 1753 (d) ca 1836 If so I will be glad to e-mail it to you Ruth At 11:53 PM 5/28/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Sheila, > >I called the 2 copy stores nearest here and I can get it copied for $15 on the >high-speed copier, which will keep me from having to wait around so long. >John Oates used $3 for postage so that would make it $18, so that is what I'll >have to say it is. Certainly better than the $25 I paid, but like I said, it >is a well-written book. Some of the last 50 pages do connect into the various >Kornegay families. >My snail-mail address is: > >Sue Meinhart >700 E. Lake Drive, #70 >Orange, CA 92866-2758 >

Kornegay kin: Thought you might be interested in this article . It effected the Koarnegay ancestors as well as the descendents of others. I remember those depression days very well. And am thankful that they are only a memory now. One of the things that people did during the depression years was : THEY LEARNED TO HELP ONE ANOTHER. much different than it is today. WE HAD NEIGHBORS - EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT LIVE AS CLOSE ( physical) TOGATHER THEN AS WE DO NOW. Hope you enjoy reading this and that it will give you another prospective in doing genealogy and sharing. Ruth DATABASE OF THE DAY (Free for 10 Days!): Colonial Families of the United States of America, vol. 6 This impressive database is the sixth in a series of volumes covering the families of the early English colonies in America. Beginning with the first landing at Jamestown, this series covers families up through the start of the American Revolutionary War and beyond into the nineteenth century. 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Hi Ruth, Could I please get the Rev War info on John Ward b:25 Mar 1756 and William Ward, b:1753, both in NC. Thanks so much. Do you happen to have the will for this John Ward? Sue in CA

Hello, I have the OUTLAW GENEALOGY BOOK and I would be glad to do look ups for any KORNEGAYs who married with the OUTLAWS and WHITFIELDs of Duplin County, NC Gayle W. LICARI In addition, the person who posted that the part of Germany that our ancestors are from was once Switzerland---I am interested in knowing the time line, etc. I believe Barbara Justice was the person's name. Thank you.

Sue, Glad you got your book. It has a lot of good information in it. I'm still working on the idea of scanning. My friend has said I can use her scanner and now it is just a matter of finding a convenient time before she takes off for Ohio. And like you say it may not work. Sandy

Hi Sheila, I called the 2 copy stores nearest here and I can get it copied for $15 on the high-speed copier, which will keep me from having to wait around so long. John Oates used $3 for postage so that would make it $18, so that is what I'll have to say it is. Certainly better than the $25 I paid, but like I said, it is a well-written book. Some of the last 50 pages do connect into the various Kornegay families. My snail-mail address is: Sue Meinhart 700 E. Lake Drive, #70 Orange, CA 92866-2758

Hi Sandy, Me too! I just got finished a bit ago, reading the whole book. There is definitely some good documentation in it and I found some info that I was missing too. It came in loose page form so will make it easy to copy. It definitely was well written; just too bad there is no index though. My cousin in TX has already ordered her copy from me. Sue in CA

Sue, Glad to hear you have the book. Please let me know how much it is going to cost and I'll get it in the mail to you asap. Sheila

Hi All, I received my copy of the book today in the mail from John Martin Oates, Jr. "John George Kornegay 1670 - 1711, The Palatine Immigrant". John was good in also sending along a short letter statement saying, "Dear Sue, you are correct concerning any copying in full or any part of this book; sincerely, John Oates." This is his release form in writing. Anytime I copy something from the book, will also copy the release note. Sue in CA

HELLO IM BARBARA JUSTICE. I READ THAT THE PART THEY CAME FROM IS NOW SWITZERLAND.

\Sue and Sheila, The KORNEGAY's according to the article in the BIBB EAGLE came from the area of southeast Germany which inludes the wine regions of the Rhine and Moselle Valleys and the Black Forrest and some of the loveliest country found on earth----a homeland to leave with reluctance. It it also says they came ashore March 1710 It goes on to say that all the people travelling with Baron Christopher de Graffenried . They were in London, England and they originally spelled the name KNEGE and GNAGI is another variation of the name. The settlers were killed by the Tuscaroras INDIANS in September 1711 with the exception of George KORNEGAY and George KOONCE. They captured the 2 young children and were held for 3 month when the militiament rescued them. Jacob Miller, a swiss schoolmaster, and justice of the peace at New Bern, raised the two boys. Both boys grew up and became landowners in Craven and surrounding counties. Many KORNEGAYs live in Duplin, Wayne, Sampson Counties. Sue, by chance would you have the parents names of Penelope and Luke WARD and where they were born? Do appreciate any help with this line. Gayle W. Licari Tarheel@Heart Prozak0304@aol.com wrote: > Sue, > You are right, I have only done a small amount of looking at time periods > after I got the email from Eddie Davis and will take more time to ponder it > further. I do believe that the Palatinate part is correct and the family did > come to England from some part of Germany. What I meant about blowing the > theory out of the water, was my perception of the journey the Kornegay family > took in route to North Carolina. I also feel like Latvia may have been part > of the Upper Palatinate. I guess that since I didn't have a clue to where > Talsen was I was searching in the Lower Palatinate and now that theory no > longer holds true. I now have a new direction to search. Ya'll keep in > touch. > Sheila

Hi All, See that I forgot to paste my notes like I said I would here. Well, well, must be getting forgetful again. LOL Here they are: > John George Kornegay & his wife were of the upper Palatinate of the Rhine (now Germany). As Protestants, they (John George Kornegay along with his wife & children (2 sons, 8 & 2 and 2 daughters, 10 & 12) fled their homes during the War of Spanish Succession. They had gone first to England and from there on 6 May 1709, were ready to leave with the Baron von Graffenreid colony. John George Kornegay came to American in one of two flotillas recruited by Baron Christoph von Graffenreid in 1710. John George was a Husbandman (farmer) and Wine dresser. John George Kornegay along with other Palatines settled the New Bern, Craven Co., North Carolina. Family tradition has it that the Kornegays stopped first at the New Bern colony and then settled up the Neuse River. John was massacred on the 22 Sep 1711 by the Tuscaroras Indians along with all of his family except for his young son, George, because the people in the New Bern colony had cheated the Indians in trade and taken game,ammunition, and arms away from them. The Indians had saved up their resentments until one September morning in 1711 when 500 braves in small bands drifted into New Bern, pretending friendly errands. Within two hours of the signal for attach, they slaughtered 130 settlers. Infants they swing against trees. Stakes were driven through women's bodies. At new Bern's first call on South Carolina for help, "Tuscarora Jack" Barwell marched a mixed force of whites and friendly Indians 300 miles north to the stricken Neuse. He defeated the Tuscaroras but left an uneasy truce, many of his men having hurried away to sell Indian captives at the going rate of {10 per head. In 1712, at Fort Nohoroco on Contentia Creek, James Moore broke the power and spirit of the Tuscaroras. His score: "Prisoners 392 , Scalps 193 ... at least 200 Kill'd & Burnt in the fort." a remnant of the Tuscaroras slunk north to become the Sixth Nation of the Iroquois Confederation in New York Province. Ten-year old George was taken hostage and was with the Indians until they were overcome in the spring of 1712. He was then apprenticed to Jacob Mueller (Miller). The following quote from an early (not contemporary) account says, "Jacob saw to it that this orphaned Palatine boy got his fair share of the land promised earlier to the colonists in the Graffenreid expedition." If accurate, this would suggest that they were indeed Palatines which makes the search for their ancestors more complex because it increases the number of places where they may have originated. > > Hope this will help others out some. Sue in CA

Hi Sheila, Thougtht I would go ahead and just paste my notes that I have on John George Kornegay that I have taken from info different people who have either sent me info on-line, in e-mails or my snail-mail, here for everyone. Believe that the journey to NC was documented. I find that my notes already reflect somewhat some of the info already. Hope it will help others if needed clues are there for anyone to grab onto. I did put your note into my note section, Sheila, for reference on Talsen. If there are disagreements, please let me know. Thanks. Sue in CA

Sue, You are right, I have only done a small amount of looking at time periods after I got the email from Eddie Davis and will take more time to ponder it further. I do believe that the Palatinate part is correct and the family did come to England from some part of Germany. What I meant about blowing the theory out of the water, was my perception of the journey the Kornegay family took in route to North Carolina. I also feel like Latvia may have been part of the Upper Palatinate. I guess that since I didn't have a clue to where Talsen was I was searching in the Lower Palatinate and now that theory no longer holds true. I now have a new direction to search. Ya'll keep in touch. Sheila

Hi all, Got this from Sheila Lawrence earlier in another e-mail. With regards to blowing the part of the Palatine Movement out of the waters, don't think that can be said when it has been well documented. Have to remember that the area of Talsen is just that, another area that someone came from. John George Kornegay probably took his family to England before the movements started in 1710 or so and those movements to the Americas then happened. Also would have to do a good study of the timelines & changing country & areas lines to get a real picture of what was happening in late 1600s & early 1700s. Following is the note from Sheila: > Hi All, Great news.....I recieved an email from Eddie (davises@airmail.net) and she and her sister have found the town of Talsi (Talsen in German) and it is located in Latvia. Latvia is a small country east of Russia on the Baltic Sea. There is a strong German population in the country. For info on Latvia, go to the Web and enter "Latvia" and it will give you a link to the people, history and geography of the country. I have a feeling that we may have found the location of our ancestors, but it blows the "German Palatinate" theory out of the water unless the region in 1710 was part of the Upper Palatinate. Please let me know ya'll thoughts on this news. And again thanks to Eddie and her sister for doing the research. Sheila

Hello, Do you know if Abraham KORNEGAY who married Susan Grady had a daughter: Mary Catherine or Mary C. who married Blaney Williams April 10, 1856. The Sampson County, census of 1860 it listed them with a child William J. KORNEGAY age 9. Appreciate any help with this line. I am trying to find who Blaney Williams parents were too. His first wife was Frances Ann ?????? some say KORNEGAY dau. of David KORNEGAY and Charity O'Daniel....if this is so, would you know how David KORNEGAY and Abraham KORNEGAY were related. Thank you for your time and consideration my KORNEGAY/WILLIAMS families. Gayle W. Licari DITTOBYTE wrote: > Dear Ruth, > I found this on my Family Maker CD. I am not sure if it is correct, but > thought I would send this to you. I am off of Jewell Marie Kornegay married > Robert Stace Walters, Sr. Jewell Marie Kornegay's parents were William Houston > Kornegay and Edna Frances Stone. My Great Aunt Sandy was her sister. Sandy > takes care of the mailing list. I am in the process of trying to get my > Kornegay line straight. Again, I am not sure how accurate this is, but here > goes: > > William Kornegay, II > b abt 1768 d 1837 NC married Charlotte Best and they had: > 1) Abraham Kornegay md) Susan Grady > 2) Polly Kornegay md) ? Bostcik > 3) Zilpha Kornegay md) JOhn A. Chambers > 4) Charlotte Kornegay md) Zachus Smith > 5) George M. Kornegay > > I show that William Kornegay, II was the son of William Kornegy, I and > Elizabeth Outlaw. > > I don't show in my book that I copied the Smith line, or if there is one on > the CD. I will look and let you know. I have a little more on the Grady line > if you want it. Again, please take this with a grain of salt as I pulled it > from the Family file CD. If you have anything to share it would be > appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Lori

Hi Kornegay descendents! Does any one out there know anything about who the father of Joseph Kornegay (ca1772-1827) that married about 1797 to Nancy Ann Beck of Duplin County, NC If so please advise. Ruth At 04:05 PM 5/25/98 -0400, you wrote: >Ruth, >It is the same person, Lewis William married Sarah Keaton first and she died >in Tennessee( my guess, as this is where L.W. and Anna's first child was born) >My line goes through Anna Harte but a distant cousin of mine is searching for >Sarah Keaton who is her line. Lewis William was born 8/10/1803 in North >Carolina and died 7/9/1871 and is buried in Cokers Chapel Methodist Cemetary >here in Meridian Ms. He had 17 Children 9 by Sarah Keaton and 8 by Anna >Harte. There are several references on the internet that state Lewis William >died in 1831. This is incorrect. Lewis William and Sarah Keaton married >4/13/1830. I do not have the names of the children that they had. I have >written to my cousin in Texas, Linda Crecelious and am in hopes to be getting >it soon. >Hope this helps, >Sheila >

I have that Joseph Kornegay as the son of George Kornegay & Mary Fisher. Joseph Kornegay & Mary Beck had these 3 children possibly: Mary Ann, Carolyn, & Bryan. There are probably more children but that is all I have at this time. The only place I have is Craven Co., NC for birth of Joseph but no other places other than NC for birth & deaths of both Joseph & Mary. Sorry I don't have more than this. Is this right? Sue in CA

Dear Ruth, I found this on my Family Maker CD. I am not sure if it is correct, but thought I would send this to you. I am off of Jewell Marie Kornegay married Robert Stace Walters, Sr. Jewell Marie Kornegay's parents were William Houston Kornegay and Edna Frances Stone. My Great Aunt Sandy was her sister. Sandy takes care of the mailing list. I am in the process of trying to get my Kornegay line straight. Again, I am not sure how accurate this is, but here goes: William Kornegay, II b abt 1768 d 1837 NC married Charlotte Best and they had: 1) Abraham Kornegay md) Susan Grady 2) Polly Kornegay md) ? Bostcik 3) Zilpha Kornegay md) JOhn A. Chambers 4) Charlotte Kornegay md) Zachus Smith 5) George M. Kornegay I show that William Kornegay, II was the son of William Kornegy, I and Elizabeth Outlaw. I don't show in my book that I copied the Smith line, or if there is one on the CD. I will look and let you know. I have a little more on the Grady line if you want it. Again, please take this with a grain of salt as I pulled it from the Family file CD. If you have anything to share it would be appreciated. Sincerely, Lori

I found on internet: Descendents of G. W. Kornegay family G. W. (m) Sophia child: Prudence A. P. Kornegay (b) October 22, 1857 (m) John Barnabas Baxley (b) Aug 08,1851 in Dale Co. Ala Who were the Parents of G. W. Do you have other information that you can share? Thanks Ruth