Someone posted a list of the children of George KORNEGAY I . My notes agreed with all wives except for Joseph KORNEGAY ; 7th child of George I. I obtained this data many years ago and do not have documentation. Perhaps someone can help with this. My notes: Joseph KORNEGAY b. 1742 NC- d. 1828 NC Received lands on North East in Duplin Co.; Married Nancy BECK d/o John and Elizabeth (WHITFIELD) BECK; Ch: Mary Ann, and Bryan KORNEGAY. Wayne Co Heritage Book has wife of Joseph as Margaret ROBERTS. (could he have married twice?) Elizabeth WHITFIELD b. 1746 (d/o William and Elizabeth GOODMAN who married 1713 of Chowan Co- later Gates Co NC) m. (1) Jonathan TAYLOR ( 1ch); m. (2) John BECK ( 9ch). Mathew WHITFIELD father of William. It would appear that my data could be in error, since Nancy's mother Elizabeth (WHITFIELD ) BECK was born later than stated for Joseph KORNEGAY. Anyone have any input on this? Pat Hoffman

Hi Pat, Got it, will compare with what I have and made corrections to my database as needed. I just sent you an e-mail. Sue

Thank you very much for your reply on the family of Henry KORNEGAY. I appreciate your help. In case you are interested, this is what I have in my notes on this group sheet. Henry KORNEGAY b. ca 1787 Duplin Co NC- d. af 1835 . Resided in Wayne Co NC and was l known to be living in Duplin Co, NC in 1835. Married ca 1812 Nancy CARRAWAY b. 1792/3 Wayne Co NC (d/o Adam CARRAWAY & Susuannah OATES) ch: 1. Maria "Mary" KORNEGAY b. 28 Sep 1813 Wayne Co NC- d. 7 Sept 1901 Westpoint, Clay Co MS. ; bur. Greenwood Cem., West Point, MS; m. (1) 6 Jan 1831 Duplin Co NC to Steven K. BRYAN, m. (2) George Washington JUSTICE 1856 in MS. 2. Henry A. KORNEGAY b. 1815 Wayne Co NC; m. Elvy R--------- 3. William KORNEGAY b. 1817/20 Wayne Co NC; m. Spicy Jane GRIMES b. 1824 4. Wyatt Y. KORNEGAY b. 1820/21 Wayne Co NC-d. 1882 MS; m. ca 1838 NC (1) Mary-- m. (2) License Oktibehha Co MS 12 Nov 1867; m. 14 Nov 1867 Mrs Francis MADISON nee THOMAS. 5. Luke KORNEGAY b. 1823 Wayne Co NC; m. Elizabeth GRIMES resided Seven Springs, Wayne Co NC 6. Susan KORNEGAY b. 1825 Wayne Co NC; died unmarried. Pat Hoffman

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/jtroeger/germname.txt Filename: GERMNAME.TXT Internet: http://www.kalglo.com/germname.htm Date: 18 August 1995, last updated 1 Nov 1996 From: Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. 5507 Louise Lane Northampton PA 18067-9076 E-mail: 76732.3300@compuserve.com Subj: 18th Century Pennsylvania German Naming Customs Keywords: PA GERMAN NAMES CUSTOMS TRADITIONS PENNSYLVANIA 1. At baptism, if two given names were given to the child, the first given name was a spiritual, saint's name, originally developed from Roman Catholic tradition and continued on by the Protestants in their baptismal naming customs. The second given name was the secular name, which is the name the person was known by, within the family and to this rest of the world. The spiritual name, usually to honor a favorite saint, was usually repeatedly given to all the children of that family of the same sex. Thus the boys would be Johan Adam Kerchner, Johan George Kerchner, etc., or Philip Peter Kerchner, Philip Jacob Kerchner, etc. Girls would be named Anna Barbara Kerchner, Anna Margaret Kerchner, etc., or Maria Elizabeth Kerchner, Maria Catherine Kerchner, etc. But after baptism, these people would not be known as John, Philip, Anna, or Maria, respectively. They would instead be known by what we now would think of as their middle name, which was their secular name. Thus these people would be known respectively as Adam, George, Peter, Jacob, Barbara, Margaret, Elizabeth, and Catherine in legal and secular records. For males, the saint's name Johan or John was particularly heavily used by many German families. The child's secular name was really John, if and only if, at baptism he was named only John, usually Johannes, with no second given name. Many researchers, new to German names, who find a baptism of an individual with a name such as Johan Adam Kerchner, thus mistakenly spend a lot of time looking for a John Kerchner in legal and census records, when he was known after baptism, to the secular world, as Adam Kerchner. Also when reading county histories, etc., especially those written by individuals in the 20th century, and the author is referring to someone as John Kerchner and you are not looking for a John Kerchner, but the history sounds otherwise familiar, further research may turn up that this person was really not a John Kerchner, but instead was someone else such as a Johan George Kerchner. You would thus find all his 18th century records recorded under the name George Kerchner and not John Kerchner and therefore after checking the data and correlating the facts you may find this is really a story about your missing George Kerchner. 2. The term "Senior" and "Junior" following a name did not necessarily imply a father and son relationship as it does now. It could have been an uncle and nephew who had the same name and lived near each other. It could be a grandfather and a grandchild living together, where the father has died. It could even be two unrelated individuals with the same name but of different ages who lived near each other. So to help friends and business associates keep track of who was who in their discussions and records, they added on the "Sr." or "Jr." which merely meant the older and the younger, respectively. 3. The term cousin was widely used to mean an extended family, not the specific legal definition we understand it to be today. 4. It was a common practice in some German families to name the first born son after the child's paternal grandfather and the second born son after the maternal grandfather. Here are two more more detailed naming patterns practiced by some families. Pattern A 1st son after the father's father 2nd son after the mother's father 3rd son after the father 4th son after the husband's father's father 5th son after the wife's father's father 6th son after the husband's mother's father 7th son after the wife's mother's father 1st daughter after the wife's mother 2nd daughter after the husband's mother 3rd daughter after the mother 4th daughter after the father's father's mother 5th daughter after the mother's father's mother 6th daughter after the father's mother's mother 7th daughter after the mother's mother's mother Pattern B The pattern B for the sons is the same as the above but this pattern for daughters was different 1st daughter after the father's mother 2nd daughter after the mother's mother 3rd daughter after the mother 4th daughter after the mother's father's mother 5th daughter after the father's father's mother Whenever a duplicate name occurred in the series, the next name in the series was used. If a child died in infancy the name was often reused for the next child of the same gender. If you are lucky enough to find a family with a lot of children, who strictly followed one of these naming patterns, then it may give you useful clues to determining the possible names of family members in earlier generations. 5. An "in" or "en", added to the end of a name, such as Anna Maria Kerchnerin, is a German language name ending suffix denoting that the person is female. Thus the correct spelling of the last name in the example would be Kerchner, not Kerchnerin. I hope that the above information will be of assistance to individuals researching 18th Century Pennsylvania German names and records. For additional information on German-American Names consult the book by that name written by Professor George F. Jones published by the Genealogical Publishing Co. of Baltimore, MD.

I just received a copy of "Account of the founding of New Bern", by Baron deGraffenreid for $12.95 plus postage from the Tyron Palace Museum Shop Phone (252) 514-4900 Kathy On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:05:41 +0200 "Robert L. Kornegay - VP/Director" <kornegar@MercyShips.ch> writes: >Chris, > >Here is some information from the NewBern.Com web page: > >THE NEW BERN ACADEMY: Situated in New Bern's oldest residential >district, this historic Academy Museum invites exploration of New >Bern's >history from the settlement period of 1710 through the Civil War. >Special focus is given to topics of early education, New Bern >architecture and builders, and the story of New Bern as a Union city >in >the midst of the Confederacy. Corner of Hancock Street and New Street, >New Bern, NC 28560.(919) 514-4874. > >Hope that helps, but I am not certain it was there that I purchased >the >books. It was several years ago and I visited a number of museums >that >day... > >Robert >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 >V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 >Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ==== > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Chris, Here is some information from the NewBern.Com web page: THE NEW BERN ACADEMY: Situated in New Bern's oldest residential district, this historic Academy Museum invites exploration of New Bern's history from the settlement period of 1710 through the Civil War. Special focus is given to topics of early education, New Bern architecture and builders, and the story of New Bern as a Union city in the midst of the Confederacy. Corner of Hancock Street and New Street, New Bern, NC 28560.(919) 514-4874. Hope that helps, but I am not certain it was there that I purchased the books. It was several years ago and I visited a number of museums that day... Robert -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I have access to the LDS family search machine in my Plano, Texas library. It is a very hot machine to get access to and I thank the Lord every time I do get access to it. I have run the descendant chart from George Kornegay b.1734 of, Craven, NC; m to Margaret Downing b. abt. 1730 London, England ================= Following is a surname list associated with Kornegay. Time and space prohibit me from typing all the individual names in but if anyone would like to see about individual names, please let me know and I will see what I can do with the list. Some (or a lot) of you may already have the names, but there may be someone who is new to genealogy out there (such as I am) who doesn't know where to turn. If I can be of help please let me know. Please do NOT send me just a name such as "Flowers", but a specific name or the name of the spouse. I hope this helps in any way. Good hunting to all us us! Surname List as follows: Wiggins, Flowers, Ward, McCullen, Barfield, Dunbar, Raynor, Callender, Crow, Bridgers, King, Becton, McDonald, Pope, Smith, Johnston,Bowden, Oliver, Loftin, Nicholson, Broadhurts. Knowles, Washington, Allen, Rhodes, Alford, Barfield, Williams, Smith, Shine, Stevens (Stephens), Downing, Downing Lullum(Lullum being a previous married name)

Because of all the virus warnings the internet has been receiving, I thought I would post this on the Kornegay list. This came from another list I am on. >> ===DILLON/TAYLOR Mailing List === >> >> NOTICE!!!! Rootsweb prohibits posting test messages, virus >> warnings, chain announcements, current events, missing children >> reports, flames, etc. (in other words -SPAM) to the list. >> such postings could result in your removal from the list for a >> period of time. For information on virus hoaxes see > < http://www.kumite.com/myths/> > > ========================================================= > > > > Just a note: we should adhere to this notice and not send any of these things to private mailings either.

Hi! KORNEGAY Cousins: I just joined your list and am looking forward to learning and sharing KORNEGAY information. I have been collecting KORNEGAY data since 1960's. I am descended from Jacob KORNEGAY ( child 2 of George KORNEGAY and wife said to be Mary FISHER ) and Jacob's 2nd wife Mary WARD (d/o Luke and Bridgett WARD) who had Henry KORNEGAY b. ca 1787 Duplin Co NC; d. after 1835 and married ca 1812 Nancy CARRAWAY d/o Adam Carraway and Susannah OATES). Henry and Nancy had Wyatt Y. KORNEGAY b. 1820 or 21 in NC, he married Mary (thought to be DICKSON) about 1838 in NC and moved to Oktibbeha Co MS , Palo Alto Community by 1850. I would like to have more information on the family of Henry and Nancy (CARAWAY) KORNEGAY and to find the identity of Wyatt Y.'s wife Mary. I will be glad to help when I can . I enjoyed Jerry's Home Page and appreciate Sheila's sharing of information and glad to meet up again with Matt , with whom I share family lines. Pat Hoffman

Hi Matt, Thank you for those very useful suggestions. I have been getting confused when reading some of the e-mails for exactly some of those very reasons and couldn't figure out just what to do or say in my files on different people. I have always done the name of a person followed with those question marks, but see now that it even looks like I am questioning the first name, which I am usually not doing; just don't have a surname yet. I am going to try to adopt that habit, but OH, MY, I have so many names to have to try to make that correction on. That is why I started using the Miss or Mr with the surname when no first name was available yet. Thanks for making those suggestions to us. Til later. Sue in CA

Good suggestions, I get confused with so many George, William's and John's. I need them distinguished. It certainly helps. Gayle MattWard@aol.com wrote: > Having suscribed to this list serve for only a few days, I am being very > presumptious to be making suggestions, but there are some practices in use > here which are causing me some problems and can lead to mistakes being > repeated by many. Some of you may wish to add to this, but may I initiate it > with the following suggestions: > > 1. When listing a person whose name could be interpreted as male or female, > and there is no other accompanying information to clarify the gender, please > indicate in parenthesis the gender, if known. For example "Pat Kornegay" > could be male or female. If Pat married "George Hamilton Bishop", then I can > figure it out. But if Pat married "Bobbie Brooks"...Pat could be male and > Bobbie female, or vice versa. "Pat Kornegay (male) m. Bobbie Brooks" would > eliminate us creating and perpetuating a mistaken gender. > > 2. If the first name is known but not the last, type the first name followed > by some underlines: "Martha _______". Do not type "Martha???" This can be > misinterpreted as uncertainty as to the first name being "Martha". If the > last name is known, but not the first, type "______ Smith", if there is any > chance a reader might wonder whether this was a first name or last. For > example, "Mary Kornegay m. Patrick???". Did she marry a man whose first name > was Patrick and last name unknown, or whose last name might have been Patrick, > or what? "Mary m. _____ Patrick." is fairly clear that his last name was > Patrick, first name unknown. > > 3. Avoid mentioning several people in one paragraph and then using the a > pronoun such as "their, they, his, her". It can be unclear which of the > people you are referring back to. For example: > "I have found that John Jones married Christine Mayfield , daughter of James > Mayfield and Mary Smith. Maxfield Parrish married her sister, Janette. They > had two children, Glen and Sarah." > In the above paragraph, can you see how one might be confused as to whether > "They" refers to Maxfield and Janette or John and Christine? The initial > subjects of the paragraph were John and Christine, but the most recent > sentence was about Maxfield and Janette. Either intrepretation could be made. > And who is "her"? Did Maxfield marry Christine's sister or Mary Smith's > sister? Keep this potential ambiguity in mind when using pronouns. > 4. Tag your subject matter (in the "subject" field) with something > distinctive enough to help others recognize the specific area you are > addressing in your post, rather than titling it too broadly. For example, > Re: [KORNEGAY-L] Bibbs Co. AL > is much more useful than: > Re: [KORNEGAY-L] My branch > > ==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ====

Hi Sue, do you have a dau Helon E. Whitfield for Joseph Whitfield one of the wives of Wm (Snowbird) Outlaw??? If so, who is this Joseph Whitfield's wife. Gayle SUEMEINHRT@aol.com wrote: > Charity Whitfield m:Herring, Daniel > Elizabeth Whitfield 02 December 1785 -17 April 1853 m:Outlaw, Lewis > Elizabeth Whitfield29 March 1815 M:Grady, Henry > Elizabeth "Molly" Whitfield m:Grady, William > John Whitfield 23 January 1791 > Joseph Whitfield m:Grady, Mary > Joseph Whitfieldcirca 1755 m:Grady, Mary > Mary Whitfield m:Grady, John > Mary Whitfieldcirca 1710 - 20 December 1791 m:Grady, John > Patience Whitfield 1709 Bertie County, NC 1770 m:Outlaw, Edward III > Susan "Smithie" Whitfield m:Grady, Hatch Winfield > William Whitfield m:Grady, Olive > William Whitfield cir ca 1685 c 1735 > Goodman, Elizabeth > William Whitfield m:Williams, Hester > William Whitfield 23 January 1791 m:Outlaw, Nancy > ****************************************************************************** > **** > > Sue in CA > > ==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ====

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I agree with Matt on these suggestions. It would make things a lot easier. Nice going Matt! Chris

Having suscribed to this list serve for only a few days, I am being very presumptious to be making suggestions, but there are some practices in use here which are causing me some problems and can lead to mistakes being repeated by many. Some of you may wish to add to this, but may I initiate it with the following suggestions: 1. When listing a person whose name could be interpreted as male or female, and there is no other accompanying information to clarify the gender, please indicate in parenthesis the gender, if known. For example "Pat Kornegay" could be male or female. If Pat married "George Hamilton Bishop", then I can figure it out. But if Pat married "Bobbie Brooks"...Pat could be male and Bobbie female, or vice versa. "Pat Kornegay (male) m. Bobbie Brooks" would eliminate us creating and perpetuating a mistaken gender. 2. If the first name is known but not the last, type the first name followed by some underlines: "Martha _______". Do not type "Martha???" This can be misinterpreted as uncertainty as to the first name being "Martha". If the last name is known, but not the first, type "______ Smith", if there is any chance a reader might wonder whether this was a first name or last. For example, "Mary Kornegay m. Patrick???". Did she marry a man whose first name was Patrick and last name unknown, or whose last name might have been Patrick, or what? "Mary m. _____ Patrick." is fairly clear that his last name was Patrick, first name unknown. 3. Avoid mentioning several people in one paragraph and then using the a pronoun such as "their, they, his, her". It can be unclear which of the people you are referring back to. For example: "I have found that John Jones married Christine Mayfield , daughter of James Mayfield and Mary Smith. Maxfield Parrish married her sister, Janette. They had two children, Glen and Sarah." In the above paragraph, can you see how one might be confused as to whether "They" refers to Maxfield and Janette or John and Christine? The initial subjects of the paragraph were John and Christine, but the most recent sentence was about Maxfield and Janette. Either intrepretation could be made. And who is "her"? Did Maxfield marry Christine's sister or Mary Smith's sister? Keep this potential ambiguity in mind when using pronouns. 4. Tag your subject matter (in the "subject" field) with something distinctive enough to help others recognize the specific area you are addressing in your post, rather than titling it too broadly. For example, Re: [KORNEGAY-L] Bibbs Co. AL is much more useful than: Re: [KORNEGAY-L] My branch

Dear Cousins - Mea culpa, mea culpa. (Yes, more Latin.) I was going through some of the old posts (isn't the traffic lately enormous?) and I realized that Eddie was the one who pointed out the GenForum link and I mistakenly gave the credit to Sheila. Sorry. Jerry ******************************************* Jerry Quinn 12 El Paso Court Hampton, VA 23669 USA (757) 851-0027

This came through another list I am signed up for. Thought I would pass it along the same as the lady did that I got it from. Hope it is helpful. Eddie

Thank you for sending the Charity OUTLAW information. I was able to join the DAR under Captain James OUTLAW, however, we had no proof he was actually a Captain so he is listed as soldier in the DAR records. Sometimes the folks in that area just called someone "Colonel" "Major" "Captain" as a nickname. Does anyone have the names of the parents for Charity HERRING wife of Owen O'Daniel? Thank you, Gayle

Someone on the list asked for this info and I forgot who. Please forgive me for sending it through this way. Eddie http://localsonly.wilmington.net/~stanley/d0005/g0000401.htm#I1406

hi Hi this is Barbara. According to the Craven co. book i found at the library George the first was married first to Mary Fisher. They had eight children. GEORGE JR. WHO MARRIED MARGARET DOWNING LULLUM A WIDOW. JACOB WHO MARRIED ELIZABETH FONTAINE AND MARY WARD. JOHN WHO MARRIED RACHEL WILLIAM WHO MARRIED ELIZABETH OUTLAW. DAVID WHO MARRIED LETICIA JOSEPH WHO MARRIED MARGARET ROBERTS. ABRAHAM DIED CHILDLESS. MARY MARRIED DANIEL SIMMONS AND EDWARD CORNWALLIS DEBRUHL GEORGE JR. ALSO MARRIED MOURNING WIGGINS GEORGES CHILDREN WERE--GEORGE 111,CIVIL WHO MARRIED HER FIRST COUSIN JOHN KORNEGAY,DANIEL WHO MARRIED EDNA FLOWERS,DAVID WHO MARRIED ZILPHIA OLIVER,BASIL WHO MARRIED TABITHA KING AND MARGARET DEVANE , JACOB11 WHO MARRIED HIS STEPSISTER ELIZABETH WIGGINS. i HAVE MORE JUST TIRED OF TYPING. LOVE BARBARA