I haven't seen anything from the Kornegay list lately. There has been nothing since yesterday and very little then. Have you guys gone to a private list? I know that some of you were talking about going to an AOL private thing. Will you please inform me of this? Sandra, you are the list owner so I am expecting a reply from you at least. Thanks, Donna

Gayle Licari wrote: > > Donna, Very interesting reading. All credit goes to Eddie Davis for her sharing the info. I'm just the messenger. Donna I have often wondered in the Surnames, Griffin and Reid may be variations of DeGraffenried----Just as we wonder about KORNEGAY/GNAGI/KNEGE. Gayle W. Licari > PS you hit the nail on it head when you said Serendipity---its what genealogy is all about and plenty of mysteries. > > Paul & Donna Spears wrote: > > > milton davis wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Serendipity > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:08:52 +0100 > > > From: evyg <evyg@netsites.net> > > > To: davises@airmail.net > > > Eddie just sent this e-mail to me, she has been in contact with a person who is a direct descendent of the "Koonce" family. Through both of their investigation, the following information has come forth. > > Eddie said to read and enjoy...and good hunting, as we are all in this > > together. > > > > > Look at this!!! Last nite I thought to check for DeGraffenreid IN > > > SWITZERLAND–and was surprised by a KANSAS e-mail address. (Now, for > > > extra coincidence, note the husband named Davis!) > > > --- > > > > > > > Would you have any connection with the Swiss-German group led by Baron > > > > DeGraffenreid, who immigrated to VA/NC in 1710? One of my ancestral > > > > families was in that party and helped settle New Bern, NC. > > > > > > > > > > > The short answer to your question is "yes"; my dad is a direct lineal > > > descendant of Anton Tscharner de Graffenried, the first American-born de > > > Graffenried and grandson of Baron (Landgrave) Christopher. > > > > > > By coincidence we (husband Prof. John Davis and I) have just returned > > > from the annual reunion of the "Descendants of Baron Christopher de > > > Graffenried" in New Bern, NC, held June 18-20, 1998. > > > > > > It would be fascinating to learn more about your colonial family. I > > > would be pleased to correspond with you if you have questions about the > > > de Graffenried family, available literature, etc. You might be > > > interested to know that the group "DoBCdeG" is open both to descendants > > > and friends of the Baron (our newsletter is called "1710 > > > Society"--contact the editor, Judy DeGraffenreid, at > > > <JDegraf203@aol.com> if you are interested) and that the annual reunion > > > will be held outside New Bern for the first time next year, 1999, in > > > Oklahoma City, OK, on the same dates: June 18-20. You may also subscribe > > > without charge to the DeG List Server <DEGRAFFENREID-L@rootsweb.com>. If > > > you would like information about the List Server and instructions for > > > subscribing, contact Steve Jacobson <SJACOBSON@Charleston.Net>. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Jo Anne DeGraffenreid

Hello Ruth, I hope you don't mind I gave Kevin Williams your email address. His line is Adam Williams too so I thought you might be able to help one another. Gayle W. Licari

I realize this is a KORNEGAY board, but with my KORNEGAYs they tie in with these lines: I gathered this information from another source: Daniel Herring and Sarah Whitfield's children: Stephen Herring m. Nancy Rogers, Benjamin, ca 1755 ca 1814 m. 18 Sept 1780 Mary Shotwell, Joel ca 1760-1828 md Sophia King (widow of John Gilmore) Isaac 2 March 1761-23 Oct 1823 m. Nancy Ann Shotwell (widow of Meredith Gainey) No mention of Whitfield HERRING or Charity HERRING as the children of Daniel Herring and Sarah Whitfield. Does anyone know if Charity Herring was the daughter of Daniel Herring and Sarah Whitfield. Appreciate any help on this line. Many thanks. Gayle W. Licari

milton davis wrote: > > Subject: Serendipity > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:08:52 +0100 > From: evyg <evyg@netsites.net> > To: davises@airmail.net > Eddie just sent this e-mail to me, she has been in contact with a person who is a direct descendent of the "Koonce" family. Through both of their investigation, the following information has come forth. Eddie said to read and enjoy...and good hunting, as we are all in this together. > Look at this!!! Last nite I thought to check for DeGraffenreid IN > SWITZERLAND–and was surprised by a KANSAS e-mail address. (Now, for > extra coincidence, note the husband named Davis!) > --- > > > Would you have any connection with the Swiss-German group led by Baron > > DeGraffenreid, who immigrated to VA/NC in 1710? One of my ancestral > > families was in that party and helped settle New Bern, NC. > > > > > The short answer to your question is "yes"; my dad is a direct lineal > descendant of Anton Tscharner de Graffenried, the first American-born de > Graffenried and grandson of Baron (Landgrave) Christopher. > > By coincidence we (husband Prof. John Davis and I) have just returned > from the annual reunion of the "Descendants of Baron Christopher de > Graffenried" in New Bern, NC, held June 18-20, 1998. > > It would be fascinating to learn more about your colonial family. I > would be pleased to correspond with you if you have questions about the > de Graffenried family, available literature, etc. You might be > interested to know that the group "DoBCdeG" is open both to descendants > and friends of the Baron (our newsletter is called "1710 > Society"--contact the editor, Judy DeGraffenreid, at > <JDegraf203@aol.com> if you are interested) and that the annual reunion > will be held outside New Bern for the first time next year, 1999, in > Oklahoma City, OK, on the same dates: June 18-20. You may also subscribe > without charge to the DeG List Server <DEGRAFFENREID-L@rootsweb.com>. If > you would like information about the List Server and instructions for > subscribing, contact Steve Jacobson <SJACOBSON@Charleston.Net>. > > Best wishes, > Jo Anne DeGraffenreid > MsDeG@kgs.ukans.edu

Kathy, it could be. Do you have any dates on her. Maybe someone else can help us. I will do some more investigating when I go back to Kenansville. Thanks Ruth At 06:34 AM 6/22/1998 -0500, you wrote: >On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:33:58 -0400 Ruth Westbrook ><o6t8l5jv@coastalnet.com> writes: >> >>I found some names at the Duplin County, Register of Deeds - last week >>and >>can't find who they belong to = can you help? >> >>Sallie Herring (m) Junious Kornegay and had 6 children. >> >>Patrick M. Herring (m) Margaret Kornegay and had 2 children. >> >>Nona Greye Kornegay (b) 19 Mar 1924 (buried in Smith Grave yard on >>County >>road #106 on right between #1107 & 1113 >> >>B. W. Kornegay and Mary Kornegay parents of Martha Kornegay who (m) >>Stephen H. Grady 31 Jan 1871 >> >>Rutledge Cemetery - Kenansville, NC >>Ann Jane Wife of A. Kornegay (d) 20 Apr 1852 age 37 yrs 6 mo. > >Could this be Anne Turnage, wife of Abraham Kornegay? >Mother of Martha Ann Kornegay? > Kathy > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ==== >To search mailing list archives go to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > >

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:33:58 -0400 Ruth Westbrook <o6t8l5jv@coastalnet.com> writes: > >I found some names at the Duplin County, Register of Deeds - last week >and >can't find who they belong to = can you help? > >Sallie Herring (m) Junious Kornegay and had 6 children. > >Patrick M. Herring (m) Margaret Kornegay and had 2 children. > >Nona Greye Kornegay (b) 19 Mar 1924 (buried in Smith Grave yard on >County >road #106 on right between #1107 & 1113 > >B. W. Kornegay and Mary Kornegay parents of Martha Kornegay who (m) >Stephen H. Grady 31 Jan 1871 > >Rutledge Cemetery - Kenansville, NC >Ann Jane Wife of A. Kornegay (d) 20 Apr 1852 age 37 yrs 6 mo. Could this be Anne Turnage, wife of Abraham Kornegay? Mother of Martha Ann Kornegay? Kathy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I found some names at the Duplin County, Register of Deeds - last week and can't find who they belong to = can you help? Sallie Herring (m) Junious Kornegay and had 6 children. Patrick M. Herring (m) Margaret Kornegay and had 2 children. Nona Greye Kornegay (b) 19 Mar 1924 (buried in Smith Grave yard on County road #106 on right between #1107 & 1113 B. W. Kornegay and Mary Kornegay parents of Martha Kornegay who (m) Stephen H. Grady 31 Jan 1871 Rutledge Cemetery - Kenansville, NC Ann Jane Wife of A. Kornegay (d) 20 Apr 1852 age 37 yrs 6 mo. Hope you can help me. Thanks Ruth

As I recall, some of the Kornegay Clan was looking for Graves Family. Ruth >Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:01:52 -0700 (PDT) >From: DFGM43A@prodigy.com (MS LOUISE T OVERTON) >Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:56:04, -0500 >Old-To: NC-SC-ROOTS-L@listserv.indiana.edu, NCORANGE-L@ROOTSWEB.COM, > NCROOTS-L@ROOTSWEB.COM >Subject: [NCORANGE-L] Person Co. NC Estate Records #16 >Resent-Message-ID: <"Av8MNB.A.oSB.eeHj1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> >To: NCORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: NCORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <NCORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1634 >X-Loop: NCORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: NCORANGE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Person Co. N.C. Estate Records Found In the N.C. State Archives > >Box # C.R. 078.508.16 > >Abendego GENTRY...1837 >Benjamin GENTRY...1872 >B.F. GENTRY...1892 >Frances GENTRY...1846 >Henry GENTRY...1854 >James L. GENTRY...1902 >Martha GENTRY...1872 >Martha J. GENTRY...1872 >Shadrack GENTRY....1842 >Simon GENTRY...1856 >Simon GENTRY...1870 >Simon GENTRY...1880 >Charles GIBBONS...1882 >Peter GILL...1805 >W.A. GILLIS...1895 >Samuel GLAZE...1801 >Bedford GLENN...1905 >Eliza GLENN...1891 >George GLENN...1852 >S.W. GLENN..1889 >T.K. GLENN...1898 >Thompson GLENN...1857 >Thomas J. GOIN...1834 >John Sr GOIN.....1827 >John (James) A. GOIN..1854 >Judith GOIN...1828 >Nancy GOIN....1866 >Alexander GORDON...1850 >Richard E. (Henry A. and Ida) GORDON...1849 >William GOULD (GOLD)...1860 >Henry GRAVES....1815 >Martha GRAVES....1835 >Thomas GRAVES...1812 >Mitchell GRAVETT...1877 >Sarah GRAVETT...1855 >_____GRAY...1880 >Alexander GRAY...1803 >Alexander GRAY....1875 >Alexander M. GRAY...1874 >Andrew GRAY...1857 >John G. GRAY...1861 >Narcissa and Sidney GRAY...1875 >Thomas GRAY...1875 >William GRAY...1828 >Winny GRAY....1875 >Winny GRAY...1878 >Alexander GRAYHAM...1815 > >To be continued with part #17 > > >==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== >Larry Noah - lrnoah@tripod.net - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list >Visit our host - RootsWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/ >USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm > > > > > > > >

In a message dated 6/21/98 1:10:20 PM, you wrote: <<As I recall, some of the Kornegay Clan was looking for Graves Family.>> Or was that the family graves? ;=)

Sandy, I was reading where you were writing about scanning some pictures. Will you explain to me how to do this. I have a scanner - but have not ever used it. I havc finally got it hooked up - but the one that hooked it up did not have time to expalin it to me. Ruth At 10:06 AM 6/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Bob, > >I had the first page scanned and sent it to Sheila to test. She was able to >view it and said it looked great. I'm going to send it to you as a .tif >same as I sent to Sheila. Let me know if you are able to use it like this. >I was able to open it in Word Perfect and print it. I should have the rest >of the pages today. > >Sandy > > >At 11:46 AM 5/18/1998 EST5EDT, you wrote: >>Sandy, >> >>I would also love to have the first 50 pages of the book if it's >>alright. I know you will be swmaped with such requests, though. > > > >

Shelia, Thank you for your kind reply. It is such a pleasure to get to know so many "new" members of our family. Hmmmm, the <kornegar@mercyships.ch> should work, however, we have had problems with the Mercy Ships e-mail system since we took a direct lightening hit last week at our International Office near Lindale, Texas. We account it to East Texas weather not a judgement of God...;-) If you continue to have problems getting through, I can also be reached via my travel account <rkornegay@compuserve.com>, however, I don't check that one as often as I do the Mercy Ships one. Keep in touch, Robert -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Wonder what prompted the Indians to spare the two young boys? What >about them was different from the rest of the children and adults? Sheila, Christophel von Graffenried's book "Account of the Settling of New Bern" refers to the "women and children" captives taken by the Tuscarora Indians in the uprising. Graffenried, his two Negro slaves, and surveyor John Lawson were captured by the Tuscaroras just prior to the slaughter of the colonists. Graffenried was released by the Tuscaroras by negotiating a personal ransom payment with the Indian council after witnessing the torture and death of his slaves and Lawson. Lawson's torture was by hundreds of slivers of "fat-wood'" (the resinous heart of a pine tree) being stuck in his skin and then lighted. While returning barefoot and injured to the colony, Graffenried stumbled across the abandoned and looted homesteads of the slaughtered English and German-speaking settlers. He found the surviving colonists fortified in the New Bern settlement and planning retribution raids on the surrounding Indian communities. Graffenried was especially concerned that the colonist's attacks would endanger the lives of the hostages. He offered to act as negotiator between the Indians and colonists to settle the conflict without further bloodshed. Graffenried's offer was rejected and the surviving colonists raided several Indian camps but accomplished little. The Tuscarora War was finally concluded after a second force of South Carolina regulars and native tribes overpowered the Tuscaroras and carried many of the survivors back to SC to be sold as slaves to recover their expenses. Historical records indicate the Kornegay and Koonce boys were not the only survivors of the Tuscarora massacre. The text of the court minutes of 1712-1713, NC State Department of Archives and History, lists the settlement of the estates of the "Palatine orphans". The court was held in the house of Jacob Miller (Mueller) in August, 1713. The names of the orphans mentioned in the document are: ______ Knight, Peter Engott, Abna Minnott, Jacob _____, Elizabeth Broadbeek, Katherina Lluckins, George Kornegay, George Cones (Koonce?), Samuel Kinse (Kinsey?), Katherina Hepshine, Mary Mennitt (Minnott), John Arthur, Eliza Maun, Katherin Winn, Jerimah Reed, Thomas Hogg. There were also at least three unidentified orphans mentioned in the court record. BTW, I visited the origin village of the George Koonce family. It is the agricultural village of Biglen approximately 10 km from Worb, the ancestral home of the von Graffenried family. The village is about 25 km east of Bern, Switzerland. This dovetails nicely with the Swiss Gnagi hypothesis as the document refers to the children, whether of English, German, or Swiss decent, as the "Palatine orphans." It has been noted that George I referred to himself as a "Palatine orphan", possibly a young boy's terrifying memory and not necessarily defining his origin of birth. There is no indication in the document of which orphans had been held captive by the Tuscaroras, however, it is probable that more children were captured than just the two boys later apprenticed to Miller. Graffenried's willingness to risk his neck to negotiate their ransom could indicate a greater number. Naturally any colony woman recaptured or ransomed back from the Tuscaroras would have quickly remarried and taken possession of any surviving children or property. The capture of surviving women and children of the vanquished by the victorious is a sad but common consequence of war throughout history. There are a number of obvious reasons war captives were important: status to the victorious tribe; an infusion of new wives for the warriors; slave labor; insurance against retaliation (history disproves this--more counter attacks were provoked than prevented); and the taking of hostages could prove profitable in the form of ransom payments. In today's lingo, the 18th century warrior believed hostage-taking to be a "win-win" tactic of war. I too find myself traveling back in my imagination to that horrifying day in September almost three hundred years ago when George I once again lost everything familiar to him. What suffering our ancestors endured to plant the Kornegay family in the fertile soil of Eastern NC. As I spend time here in Europe, and more particularly Switzerland--the possible genesis of our family--I am awed by God's perfect plan and His remarkable gift of life. There are thousands living on this planet today with Kornegay blood in their veins and it all began with one terrified little boy. What a remarkable story and what a remarkable family... Robert -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

OOPs, That should have said reading. Sincerely, Lori

Dear Robert, Thank you for the story. I really enjoyed ready about George Kornegay, I. Sincerely, Lori

The last column should have read: William Whitfield Elizabeth Goodman ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Patience Whitfield Edward Outlaw, 111 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1- James Outlaw Elizabeth Grady (bloodline of Whitfield) 2-Elizabeth Outlaw William KORNEGAY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Kornegay Charity O'Daniel ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gayle W. Licari

Hello Kornegay researchers: Would like to share this to see if I have it correct: Wm Whitfield Wm Whitfield Wm Whitfield Elizabeth Goodman Elizabeth Goodman Elizabeth Goodman ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sarah Whitfield Charity Whitfield Patience Whitfield Daniel Herring Fredrick O' Daniel Edward Outlaw, 111 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Charity Herring Owen O'Daniel James Outlaw Owen O'Daniel Charity Herring Mary Grady (Whitfield) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Charity O'Daniel Charity O'Daniel Elizabeth Outlaw David Kornegay David Kornegay William Kornegay ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Kornegay Charity O'Daniel __________________________________________________________________________________________________ I have siblings Benjamin Herring and Whitfield Herring for Charity Herring. Are there more? Is this correct? Appreciate anyone's imput or further clarification. Gayle W. Licari

Hello Ruth, Thank you for posting about Lemeul Herring. Glad he is doing well after his transplant. What a positive attitude he has and that is half the battle. May others become aware of the need for bone marrow donors, blood donors. Transplant patients need appx. 88 pints of blood transfusion to support them until the new marrow starts producing. I encourage all who are healthy to donate blood helping to save a life is a precious blessing. Gayle Ruth Westbrook wrote: > You might write or call Dallas Herring in Rose Hill, N. C. > He probably has a tremendous amount of info on the Herring line. > > his phone number is 910-289 2430 > > Ruth > > At 05:33 PM 6/11/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Dear Bob, > >I saw your post on O'Daniel and Herring. You mentioned a Horace Fussell, Jr. > >do you know anymore about Fussell. I also have Fussell in my line. I am > >finding the Herring Surname interesting also. I am stuck on Herrin/Herring > >Walters in my Walters line. I always thought he was named after his mother's > >surname. > > > > > >Sincerely, > >Lori > > > > > > > > ==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ====

Robert, Thanks so much for the History Lesson, I am going to add it to my Kornegay Notebook. I guess I never really considered that there were any other survivors, my tunnel vision. It is pretty wonderous that all of us owe who we are to one scared little orphan. Robert, will you send me your correct email address, I had a small accident with my address book and lost all my address and "kornegar@MercyShips.ch" comes back invalid email address. Thanks, Sheila

HI Robert, Thanks for putting that history into a better perspective for us all. You wrote it out very well in a way that it touches hearts. Sue in CA