To All, I just received the copy of my last post and discovered some binary changes. My "o with umlaut" was changed to a "v" and my "a with umlaut" was changed to a "d". I also gave a reference to the royal charter for the Carolina Province. The actual 1663 charter is at <http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony26.html>; the previous reference is for the 1669 Charter. Robert -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Gayle, I just did a quick count on the following names on the Swiss phone CD and the Germany Phone CD and came up with these totals: NAME SWITZERLAND GERMANY ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kornegay 0 4 (by US marriage) Kenege 0 0 Knego 0 1 Kvnecke 0 485 Kvnig/Konig 1,617 48,286/6 Gndgi 284 0 Gnaegi 37 0 Gnagne 0 1 Hornig 0 2,092 Hornigh 0 0 I also found the following towns in Germany with Kvnig in the name: NAME LISTINGS KONIG ------------------------------------------------------- Kvnigsberg 76 0 Kvnigsberg Gem. Biebertal 4,387 1 Kvnigsberg Gem. Kvnigsh|gel 61 0 It would be excellent if Ralf could investigate the church records in those areas for Kvnig births and marriages from 1670 to 1708. I would suggest the next line to check would be the Hornig name as that is very close to the Hornigh spelling in the refugee camp in the Talsen at St. Catherines in London. I will continue to research the Swiss records in Bern for any other Gndgi clues. FYI, an unabridged copy of the original grant of the Carolina Province to the Lord Proprietors can be found at <<http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony27.html>> Robert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Robert, Where did you live and grow up in Goldsboro? My family is from Emmaus Church Road, but my Mom is a nurse so we moved to town while she getting her nursing degree. My brothers and I lived at the IOOF Home for 4 years. Mom lived across the street in the nurses quarters. My Dad was from Faison, NC. His line is Williams-too-a different set. Dad's cousin is Dr. William Thornton, the medical astronaut. His ancestor Jane Elizabeth Williams married Moore Lee Thornton. It is Mother's line of Williams that extend back to the KORNEGAYs, HERRINGs, WHITFIELDs, OUTLAWs, ROBERTs, LEWISs, GARRISs. My Mom's Dad was a farmer. He farmed 300 hundred acres of land. Very hard work. As a young child we all helped. Sorry about your lottery pick. I still feel that is so far to live from civilization. I like town. The country is nice, but I do prefer town over it. Who were your MOM's people? We had another family o f KORNEGAY kids at the "HOME" too. This August we are having our 2 nd reunion with all of us "kids" who lived at the home during the 50s, 60s, 70s. Can hardly wait to see everyone again. Take care John, hope you are enjoying your travels in Switzerland. Gayle Robert L. Kornegay - VP/Director wrote: > Gayle Licari wrote: > > > My Uncle who lives in Dudley near Sleepy Creek Road sees a Dr. KORNEGAY in > > Mt. Olive, NC is he a relative of yours? > > Gayle, > > Thanks for the software tip. No, Dr. Kornegay is not of the same line > as I am. > His line is from George II and mine is from Jacob I. Dr. Kornegay was a > friend and physician to my father, Ralph Lee Kornegay, before he (my > dad) died in 1993. > > Your mention of Sleepy Creek Road brought back a flood of memories. My > parents were part of the group of investors in the original development > of Sleepy Creek Lake. Each investor contributed a certain amount into > the pot toward the development costs and that intitled each to one or > more lots. I vividly remember the day the lots were divided up. I was > just a kid (my cub scout troop often fished in the lake) but the tragic > memory of that day was burned into my mind. > > All the families met at the newly built lodge for a day of festivities > and feasting on pork barbeque and fried chicken. After the picnic, we > all gathered in the main room for the distribution of the lots. A piece > of paper with the number of each lot was put in a hat and one by one > each family picked their lot. I remember the surprise and embarrassment > as my father gently pushed me forward when our family name was called. > I remember reaching up into the hat, grabbing the first piece of paper I > felt and handing it to my Dad. I also remember the disappointment that > registered on my dad's face as he read out the number "96", a lot way at > the end of the original lake and on the other side of the dam. > > Now my mother always tried to make the best of any situation and she > soon organized a Saturday trip to Sleepy Creek to clear the underbrush > off the lot. Unfortunately the trip ended suddenly when my mother > thought she saw a snake. She quickly and loudly loaded me and my two > older sisters into the Buick and drove us rapidly back to Goldsboro. My > mother hated snakes so much that she would even cry-out and cover her > eyes when one slithered across the TV screen. It wasn't long before my > father sold the lot and I spent the rest of my summers in the snake-free > safety of the Goldsboro Country Club pool. > > To this day, I stay away from the lottery or any other game of chance. > > Robert > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 > V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 > Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ==== > To view Kornegay Family Pages go to http://www.ddaccess.com/jbquinn/Kornegay.htm

Gayle Licari wrote: > My Uncle who lives in Dudley near Sleepy Creek Road sees a Dr. KORNEGAY in > Mt. Olive, NC is he a relative of yours? Gayle, Thanks for the software tip. No, Dr. Kornegay is not of the same line as I am. His line is from George II and mine is from Jacob I. Dr. Kornegay was a friend and physician to my father, Ralph Lee Kornegay, before he (my dad) died in 1993. Your mention of Sleepy Creek Road brought back a flood of memories. My parents were part of the group of investors in the original development of Sleepy Creek Lake. Each investor contributed a certain amount into the pot toward the development costs and that intitled each to one or more lots. I vividly remember the day the lots were divided up. I was just a kid (my cub scout troop often fished in the lake) but the tragic memory of that day was burned into my mind. All the families met at the newly built lodge for a day of festivities and feasting on pork barbeque and fried chicken. After the picnic, we all gathered in the main room for the distribution of the lots. A piece of paper with the number of each lot was put in a hat and one by one each family picked their lot. I remember the surprise and embarrassment as my father gently pushed me forward when our family name was called. I remember reaching up into the hat, grabbing the first piece of paper I felt and handing it to my Dad. I also remember the disappointment that registered on my dad's face as he read out the number "96", a lot way at the end of the original lake and on the other side of the dam. Now my mother always tried to make the best of any situation and she soon organized a Saturday trip to Sleepy Creek to clear the underbrush off the lot. Unfortunately the trip ended suddenly when my mother thought she saw a snake. She quickly and loudly loaded me and my two older sisters into the Buick and drove us rapidly back to Goldsboro. My mother hated snakes so much that she would even cry-out and cover her eyes when one slithered across the TV screen. It wasn't long before my father sold the lot and I spent the rest of my summers in the snake-free safety of the Goldsboro Country Club pool. To this day, I stay away from the lottery or any other game of chance. Robert -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Kornegay | kornegar@mercyships.ch | Work: 41.21.654.32.10 V.P.-Director | rkornegay@compuserve.com | Home: 41.21.654.32.50 Mercy Ships-Suisse | http://www.mercyships.org | Fax: 41.21.654.32.20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I mis stated the number o f KORNEGAY/GNAGI/KNEGE families given to me by Ralf Dietrich from Germany. There are only 50 not the 150 I reported in yesterdays post on the CD/ROM phone for the country. Sorry for the error did not mean to mislead anyone. I will ask him to check for the spelling of KONIG also. Gayle W. Licari

Hi Robert, Now that was a lesson to learn about the lotteries! But what a way to make an impression on one so young too. Bet you have saved lots of money over the years. <G> Sue in CA

An article printed in a local newpaper several years ago by Claude Moore, ( Now deceased) who was a historican and College professor. THE KORNEGAY FAMILY OF DUPLIN During the years I havve written several articles about the prominent Kornegay family in Duplin and other parts of North Carolina. All the Kornegays are related but in many instances it is a very distant relationship. The first of this family to come to America was George Kornegay (** This should have been John) who came in New Bern in 1710 and was killed in 1711 in the Tuscarora Indian War in 1717, Mrs. Bessie Hogan Williams (1851-1925 of Selma, Alabama, a granddaughter of Basil Kornegay of Mount Olive wrote the following: "The first Kornegay to come to America was named Konig and he came from Kornigsburge, Germany, but when he came to America his neighbors called him Kornegay, and he liked the name better so he let it go that way." A later George Kornegay, called senior in the records received a large land grant aabout four miles east of Mount Olive and called "Red Hill" . The Holmes Garden and lake are on this grant. George Kornegay, Sr had several children among whom was George Kornegay, Jr, who married Margaret Downing , the daughter of a London barrister. Their children were: Basil Kornegay, who married Tabitha King of Sampson County and a sister of Vice President William R. King (1782-1853) George Kornegay III< Civil Kornegay, Daniel Kornegay, and Jacob Kornegay. Mrs Williams further writes in 1917, "Basil Kornegay, the youngest of the family was very handsome, tall with golden curles and blue eyes, and had always been spoiled and was allowed to have his way in all things." According to the census of 1810, Basil Kornegay was the head of a family. Besides lands and slaves, he was a surveyor. It is believed that he was married in 1809 to Tabitha King (1788-1870 ) and they lived at "Red Hill" near Mount Olive. They had the following children: Margaret, Louisa, Thomas and and Katherine. In 1817, the Hon. William R. King (congressman, diplomat) migrated to Dallas County, Alabama and carried with him his widowed mother, grandmother and brothers, and his sisters and their families. He invited Basil and Tabitha Kornegay to go with them but he refused. They were already having domestic problems, to put it mildly. Tabitha went to Alabama with her brother and kept house for him since he was single. Basil would not allow the children to go, but died in 1821 and the children went tolive with their mother, and her brother was made guardian. Margaret Tabitha Kornegay (1811-1841 married Gongo W. Gayle and lived in Cahaba, Alabama and had two children. Thomas King Kornegay (1813-1846) died unmarried. Louisa King Kornegay (born 1814) married Dr. Benjamin Rush Hogan and had nine children. A son, William R. King Hogan was killed at the Battle of Chancellorsville, Virginia, 1863 The Hogans finally settled in Desolo Parish, Louisiana. Catherine Kornegay married Wiley Thomas in Dallas County, Alaabama. Tabitha King Kornegay died in 1870 The movement of the Kings and other to Alabama is part of the story of the migration of North Carolina families to the far South between 1800-1860. Hope you enjoy this article Ruth

Shelia, Having worked for about 50 years as an accountant. I do not assume every one has received social security. But I do say that the list helped me. and maybe it will help someone else. There is many people that did receive social security - that was born many years prior to the birth of social security. Yes, a person was supposed to work so many quarters to be entitled to draw (or benefit) from Social Security. But I also know that if the wife didn't work - if the husband is deceased - she can draw off her husband's earnings. But so much for discussing Social Security. I still feel that it was a good search unit for me. Thanks for your comments. Ruth At 10:08 PM 6/26/1998 EDT, you wrote: >Ruth, >Thanks for the post on the SSDI. It is a good tool, but as I have discovered >in the past few days, it is common to assume everyone has a social security >card. Now days kids have one shortly after birth. But as in my case of >looking, the older the individual, especially females, did not have social >security numbers. They did not work outside the home and did not need one. >An example is my mother who died in 1966. She was working for my grandfather >in his garage as his bookeeper and did not pay taxes because she was paid in >cash. She did have a social security number, but it is not on the SSDI >because she/nor survivors recieved any benefits. I looked for my father on >there for 6 months before I finally found him quite by accident. It was not >listed under his name but simply under an initial. >Again Ruth, Thanks for Sharing. >Sheila > > >==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ==== > > > > > >

Hi Sheila, Read your post to Ruth. Doesn't some one have to let the social security people know if the death has occurred in order for it to in the SS death index. I don't know just wondering. Gayle Prozak0304@aol.com wrote: > Ruth, > Thanks for the post on the SSDI. It is a good tool, but as I have discovered > in the past few days, it is common to assume everyone has a social security > card. Now days kids have one shortly after birth. But as in my case of > looking, the older the individual, especially females, did not have social > security numbers. They did not work outside the home and did not need one. > An example is my mother who died in 1966. She was working for my grandfather > in his garage as his bookeeper and did not pay taxes because she was paid in > cash. She did have a social security number, but it is not on the SSDI > because she/nor survivors recieved any benefits. I looked for my father on > there for 6 months before I finally found him quite by accident. It was not > listed under his name but simply under an initial. > Again Ruth, Thanks for Sharing. > Sheila > > ==== KORNEGAY Mailing List ====

For those that is not aware of it - I just found it- you can check dates in the Social Security records. You will have to know something about the person - to be sure that you have the correct person - check it out: http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm I found several that I knew one date - but didn't know the other date. also I knew - I had the correct person - by the name and place and the one date that I did have. Good hunting. Ruth

Hello Bob, Sue, Pat: May I ask a huge favor on a look up from the HERRINGs HIGHLIGHTS for Sarah HERRING and Micajah CASEY and if they are in the material who would Sarah's parents be? Thank you. Gayle W. Licari

Hello Kornegay Researchers: My friend, Ralf Dietrich replied to my quest on help about our KORNEGAY/GNAGI/KNEGE name. He tells me there are about 150 listings in the phone CD/ROM and he is going to check with a SWISS family about our name too for Switzerland. Ralf and Cornelia Dietrich have a daughter, Sonja, who has Fanconi Aplastic Anemia. They are the support leaders for the German Families. Ralf attends all the medical symposiums in the USA to learn of the latest advances in research, gene thereapy, etc so he may inform the German Families of the progress being made in research in hopes o f saving their children's lives. Gayle W. Licari

Ruth, Thanks for the post on the SSDI. It is a good tool, but as I have discovered in the past few days, it is common to assume everyone has a social security card. Now days kids have one shortly after birth. But as in my case of looking, the older the individual, especially females, did not have social security numbers. They did not work outside the home and did not need one. An example is my mother who died in 1966. She was working for my grandfather in his garage as his bookeeper and did not pay taxes because she was paid in cash. She did have a social security number, but it is not on the SSDI because she/nor survivors recieved any benefits. I looked for my father on there for 6 months before I finally found him quite by accident. It was not listed under his name but simply under an initial. Again Ruth, Thanks for Sharing. Sheila

This is taken from "Church History in Plain Language" by Bruce Shelley. It may shed some light on the background of the religious persecution encountered by our ancestors. Anabaptists were founded in Zurich, Switzerland, by former priest George Blaurock in 1525, who asked to be baptised in the apostolic fashion - upon confession of personal faith in Jesus Christ (versus infant baptism). The radicals of that day found their best opportunities to preach in Switzerland, the Rhineland and Holland. By mid-century three groups appeared in German-speaking Europe: 1) the Swiss brethren 2) the Hutterite brethren in Moravia (under leadership of Jacob Hutter)and 3) the Mennonites in the Netherlands and North Germany. The authorities decided anyone caught rebaptizing would be put to death by drowning. "If the heretics wnat water, let them have it." Within four years, the movement was practically eradicated. Many of the persecuted fled to Germany and Austria but their prospects were no brighter there. During the Reformation years between four and five thousand Anabaptists were executed by fire, water and sword. Blaurock himself was burned at the stake on September 6, 1529. Today the direct descendants of the Ananbaptists are the Mennonites and the Hutterites. Distant relatives of the Anabaptists include the Baptists, the Quakers and practically all modern Protestants.

Another suggestion to add to the things to keep in mind so that communication will not cause misinterpretations and errors: When answering a question from a previous post, highlight the main question that you are going to answer and paste it at the top of your reply. Enclose it with <<>> so we will recognize it as a quote from a previous post. AOL does this automatically...just by highlighting (dragging your cursor over some text) then clicking on the reply button, it will paste the highlighted quote at the top of the message area already enclosed in brackets. If your email provider doesn't do it automatically, you'll have to do it manually. Otherwise, we see an answer and don't always know what question it was answering. For example, sometimes there has been several replies to the original post. When we see one with nothing in it but: "Yes, he was." we have no idea what the question was, but if we see: <<Was Gregory Miller widowed then remarried?>> Yes, he was. This is much more helpful and avoids someone mistaking the answer for some subsequent question that was posted, or finding it totally useless information.

GEORGE WALTER KORNEGAY AND CLARISSA ROUSE moved to AL,DALE CO. in the very early 1800s. I believe they were born in JONES CO.N.C. He was born in 1820 son of William Kornegay and Charlotte Daniel.She was the dau. of John Rouse born 1795 and Elizabeth Becton born1807 George Walter and Clarissa Rouse are--James Polk Kornegay born 1846. John Willis Kornegay born--1843. married Eveline Branton born 1851 in Dothan, Houston Co.,Al. Sarah Kornegay. ------------ Kornegay Prudence Kornegay born 1857 Jonah R. Kornegay born 1862 JOHN WILLIS KORNEGAY--and EVELYN BRANTONS children--- Robert P. Kornegay born 1872 died 1940 married Rese Hughs Dothan,Al. George Washington Kornegay born 1874 died 1952 in Jax.,Fl. Married first Elizabeth Henson 1895. second Mary Elizabeth Hunter. Mary Magdeline Kornegay born 1878 died 1923 married John Henry Moore 1901 Stockton Ga. Samuel E. Kornegay born 1883 died ? James Amos Kornegay born 1889 died 1973 married first to Myrtle Kelly second to Pearlie Lee McCollough . This is all i feel like typing right now. Barbara

I was looking through Charles Kornegays book and thats the only one i saw. sorry.

I see two typing errors in my post on William KORNEGAY II John A. CHAMBERS witness for marriage of Charlotte KORNEGAY to Zachius SMITH was James DICKSON Pat Hoffman

Barbara: Can you share with us where your folks lived? Did some of them go to AL? Pat Hoffman

Barbara: There are other KORNEGAY's that names begin with "B" Barbara Allen Barney Benjamine T. Bennie Bessie Blanch Bryan Outlaw KORNEGAY Bryan Ward KORNEGAY Bryant Burchell and probably a whole lot more and several names repeated. Pat Hoffman