In a message dated 8/27/98 5:20:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GSmithsan@aol.com writes: << Let me say this about Baltzer KOHLERs of York Co in 1700s. There were two: Baltzer KOHLER/COLAR of Manchester twp (my Line) and Baltzer KOHLER/KOLLER of Shrewsbury twp. The DAR records were wrong having Baltzer of Manchester children under Baltzer of Shrewsbury. It has taken years to get this rectified but the DAR now has it correct. I have also submitted Baltzer of Manchester to SAR and accepted National No 144345. However, Family Tree Maker CDs have it wrong and I fear will be the source of many incorrect family genealogies. If you need help here let me know. >> Ah, this probably explains why I had some differences between my records and yours--I hadn't responded yet b/c I hadn't looked up my source yet but I am sure it was something I found at the Mennonite Information Center in Lancaster, PA 5 or so years ago when I was last heavily into genealogical research. Anyway, I am descended from Baltzer m. Christina Lentz, as you are (I think I posted my line just before you joined the list...) But I had the Baltzer's father Hans/John Philip Kohler rather than Andreas/Andrew Kohler. Is Hans Philip the father of that OTHER Baltzer? :-) Thanks for the information and the link--would love to know what more you have on my line, which I'll repost below: Balthasar/Baltzer Kohler married Christina Lentz ABT 1775, daughter of George Philip Lentz. Child of Balthasar/Baltzer Kohler and Christina Lentz is: John Jacob Kohler (Balthasar/Baltzer) was born August 17, 1787 in Adams County, Pennsylvania, and died April 27, 1870 in Franklin Twp, Richland County, Ohio?. He married Elizabeth Miller 1813. Child of John Kohler and Elizabeth Miller is: 4. Daniel Kohler (John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer,) born August 14, 1814, died April 9, 1881 in Ashland County?, Ohio. He married Nancy Brubaker, daughter of John Brubaker and Elizabeth Brubaker. Children of Daniel Kohler and Nancy Brubaker are: 5 i. Aaron Kohler, born November 28, 1837; died May 1, 1838. 6 ii. John W. Kohler, born January 26, 1839; died January 3, 1906. He married Mary Hirsh. 7 iii. Elizabeth Kohler, born June 19, 1841; died March 9, 1894. She married John C. Kagen?. + 8 iv. Henry B. Kohler, born September 14, 1843 in Ashland County (Richland Co.?), Ohio; died September 26, 1877 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio. 9 v. Amos M. Kohler, born January 15, 1847. He married Alice A. Cotter. 10 vi. Wesley Kohler, born 1848; died 1851. 11 vii. Daniel W. Kohler, born November 10, 1850. He married Susan Coles. 12 viii. Jacob Kohler, born 1853; died 1856. 8. Henry B. Kohler (Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer) was born September 14, 1843 in Ashland County (Richland Co.?), Ohio, and died September 26, 1877 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio. He married Harriet(t) Brubaker December 21, 1872 in Ashland County, Ohio, daughter of John Brubaker and Elizabeth/Eliza Baer/Barr. Children of Henry Kohler and Harriet(t) Brubaker are: 13 i. Eddie/Edward V.6 Kohler, born September 27, 1872 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio; died August 31, 1937 in Ashland, Ashland County, Ohio. + 14 ii. Ida?/Mina? Kohler, born ABT 1875. + 15 iii. Adaline (Addie) M. Kohler, born February 27, 1877 in [Montgomery?/Milton?Twp, Ashland Co?) Ohio; died ABT 1961 in Ashland?, Ashland Co. Ohio. 14. Ida?/Mina? Kohler (Henry B., Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer,) was born ABT 1875. She married ? Love?. Child of Ida?/Mina? Kohler and ? Love? is: + 16 i. Lucille7 ?, born ABT 1900. 15. Adaline (Addie) M. Kohler (Henry B., Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer) was born February 27, 1877 in [Montgomery?/Milton?Twp, Ashland Co?) Ohio, and died ABT 1961 in Ashland?, Ashland Co. Ohio. She married Charles Calvin Chapman March 13, 1898 in Ashland?, Ashland County, Ohio, son of Richard Chapman and Rhoda Webster. Child of Adaline Kohler and Charles Chapman is: + 17 i. Florence Ruth Chapman, born December 8, 1898 in Ashland, Ohio; died ABT May 17, 1954 in Swarthmore, Pennsylvania. (my grandmother) Thanks for all your information! --Cindy Palmer (Cinpalmer@aol.com)