Gene, I have to complement you on your research, you have done a fantastic job. The info I have on Andrew Kohler III (b. 1795) comes from a book published by my father's cousin, Warren Ray Kohler. I am going to try and contact him this week and see if I can get a hold of his sources. The book is called 'An ancestral history of Warren Ray Kohler' it includes may families of Chester and Juniata counties. He goes back to Andrew III, but didn't make the connection to the York line of Kohlers. I have a copy of his manuscript before it was published. If you would like, I will email you all the relevant Kohler info for your records (or the whole thing if you want). I had transcribed the manuscript (it was originally done on a typewriter) into a MS Word document. I agree that Andrew III is very likely the son of Andrew II of York Co. I appreciate the work you put into your response to me. I am slowly getting bits and pieces of information on this family, but it sounds as if you have a majority of the work already done. Anyway, I would appreciate whatever information you would like to share about the Kohler line in York. One interesting piece of information I have is an email I sent to someone researching the Spangler name. She contends that Maria Magdalena Spangler married to Andreas Kohler is not actually a Spangler. She wrote: Dear Steve, While searching the ancestral file at the family history center I came across a family group sheet for your ancestor Andrew Kohler. The group sheet lists the wife as Maria Magdalena Spengler, with a question mark after her name. Her parents are listed as Hans Kasper Spengler and Judith Ziegler. I searched the baptismal records of Christ Lutheran Church, York, York Co., PA., and found two children of your ancestor Andrew Kohler. Both baptisms had Spengler sponsors, and I believe this is their reason for deciding that the mother may be a Spengler. The baptisms are as follows: Mary Magdalena Kohler, daughter of Andrew and Mary Magdalena Kohler (Catholics) born 4 July 1748, bpt 10 July 1748, witnesses; Balthasar & Mary Magdalena Spengler (Lutheran.) John George Kohler, son of Andrew and Mary Magdalen Kohler, both Catholics, born 8 Feb 1752, bpt 15 March 1752, Witnesses; John George Spengler and his sister Juliana Spengler. I believe that many researchers are making the common mistake of assuming that the sponsors of a baptismal record must be relatives of the family. While this often holds true, it cannot always be accepted as the norm. Often sponsors for a childs baptism are family friends, neighbors, or another member of the church. My main gripe is that individuals are reporting information to the FTM or FHC without the necessary documentation to back up their claims. This may lead another individual through many years of family research on a surname that later proves not to be of their line. Since I am a descendent of Hans Kasper Spengler and wife Judith Ziegler I can tell you that this information is not correct. The children of Casper and Judith Spengler are as follows: Albrecht, Jonas and wife Maria Stinia Kindig, Phillip, Bernhard and wife Anna Margaretha Brauns, Rudolph and wife Barbara, Anna Maria and husband Michael Swope, Judith who married 1st Henry Baker, 2nd Jacob Eichinger, and Philip Casper Spengler and wife Margaret Solome Dinkel. The Kohler surname does not appear in the Will or Orphans Court Dockets for Casper Spengler. Nor does the Kohler surname appear in the INDEX to the book on the Spengler family by Edward W. Spengler. Possibly another member of this news group can help you with Maria Magdalena's maiden name. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard ==== PAYORK Mailing List ==== York County Web Page - USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/index.htm Do you have any thoughts on what Patricia found? Did you find out anything else on Maria Magdalena that might help with this issue? Please let me know if you want that manuscript. Thanks again, Steve Kohler

Just read the message from shandybeast about attachments. If you would like a copy of the photo -- only if you have a connection to this Kohls family -- send me your address at fergus@best.com for privacy.

I do have a scanner, and I will send the photo -- I'm just waiting for someone to come by to show me how. It will be soon. Does this family of Kohls connect to you? Bob

Anybody out there with Kaehler's in Essen PA about 1880-1890? My grandmother states on her daughters birth certificate she was born in Essen PA, 1885. Her name on the cert is Lizzie B., but I believe her given name was Elizabeth. Sally Peterson aslpet@aol.com

My Fred Kohler was born 4 Dec 1848 in Germany. My great grandfather! When he was 8 yrs old, his mother Christina brought Fred and his younger brother Jacob to America. Christina's brother (name unknown) traveled with them. Christina married John Mann, they had 5 children and lived primarily in Schuykill County, Pa. The first I can find Fred or Jacob on a census is in 1880, Jefferson County, Illinois. By then Fred had married (10 January 1875) Sarah Ann Mensch. 7 children were born to them in Illinois and another child was born to them in Gage, Nebraska. Anyone interested in these details, please contact me. I do not know Christina's maiden name nor the name of her first husband. Family records regarding the locale in Germany give Berlin, near the Black Forest. Unless there is a tiny village named Berlin, the city itself is a distance from the Black Forest. Any help would be appreciated. Supposedly Fred would not tell anyone what part of Germany he was from, especially after the outbreak of WW I. I thank all of you dedicated genealogists for making this web-site possible. Happy hunting! Beverly

Hi Steve, More thoughts on your Andrew KOHLER. That Andrew b. 1795 in York now Adams County has to be the son of Andrew and grandson of Andrew the immigrant. You said: <<I have a little more information on my Andrew if anyone needs it.>> Yes I'd like to know what happened to Andrew III. I do have a lot of information on Andrew II's brothers and sisters but only Andrew II's son Jacob marriage with two children. This is the writeup I wrote for Andrew II: According to the 1790 Census Andrew was living in Manchester Township, York County, PA. The household included 1 male over 16, Andrew himself; one male under 16 years of age, Jacob at age 6; and 3 females, Margareth his wife, Maria Catharina at age 2, and Elisabeth just born if census was as late as September. The Census act was signed on 1 March 1790. The children, Jacob, Maria Catharina and Elisabeth were baptized in Quickel Lutheran Church, Mt Zion, Conewago Township, York County, PA. This is just across the township line from Manchester Township. After the 1790 Census and before November 1795 it appears Andrew moved to the Hanover area, York or Adams County, where his son, Andreas was baptized at St Matthews Lutheran Church in Hanover, PA. They most likely moved to Adams County. The Tax records from 1809 to 1818 has an Andrew KOHLER in Conewago Twp, Adams Co, PA, owning 9 acres. In 1816 he was listed as merchant. Andrew died on April 3, 1825. He was buried at St Matthew's Lutheran Cemetery, Hanover, Penn township, York county, PA. His burial site is recorded in the Revolutionary War Graves Register of the Sons of the American Revolution. Here are some notes on Andrew II: TAXES: P.A. 3rd Series Vol 21 1781 Single man, tax 2.5.0, Manchester Twp, York Co, PA p375 1782 Single man, tax 3.0.0, Manchester Twp, York Co, PA p503 1783 Single man, no property, 1 inhabitant, Machester Twp, York Co, p683 1795 Berwick Twp Andrew KOHLER 2 cattle 2 horses val. 196.10.0 tax 3.1.0 CENSUS: 1790 Manchester Twp, York Co, PA: Males: 1 16 upward; 1 under 16; 3 Females p274. 1800 Census he is not in the York or Adams Co SCPGS Spec Publications. -------- Codorus Chronicles Vol 2 No 4, Rev War Veteran's Grave Register: "Andrew KOHLER b. 1761 d. 3 Apr 1825. Pvt Capt KOPPENHOFFER's Co. Buried in St Mathew's Lutheran Cemetery, Penn Twp (York) PA." ------- His birth date computes: 3 Apr 1825 - (64y 5m 5d) = 29 Oct 1760 vs 28 Oct. I suspect the person figuring his age used (5d 5m 64y). I suspect they knew what day his birthday came on, 28 Oct. therefore I left it 28 Oct. ----------- Philip KOHLER on Berwick Twp, Adams Co, Pa TAX 1814 through 1818 Andrew KOHLER in Conewago Twp, Adams Co, PA TAX 1809 through 1818, owned 9 acres. In 1816 listed as merchant. Jacob KOHLER single wagonmaker TAX 1811 through 1818 ------------ The National Society of the Sons Of The American Revolution: Revolutionary War Graves Register, Clovis H Brakebill comp. (repository: SCGS, Burbank, CA): "KOHLER, Andrew; 1761-1825; St Matthew's Lutheran Cem., Penn Twp, {York Co}, PA Private, PA [p/o ITEM 489] ------------------ Wills and Adminstration Bonds of Adams County, PA Andrew KOHLER 1825 Adminstration Bond file 1247 Jacob KOHLER 1837 Adminstration Bond file 1998 [I did NOT look at these documents so don't know what they may have in them. It would be worth while to check Andrew's to see if he refers to son Andrew out west some place.] Regards, Gene SMith, Pasadena, CA gsmithsan@aol.com

"Kohler, Steve" <skohler@iupui.edu wrote on Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11 <<If I understand this correctly, Adams and York were together at some point, then Adams split?>> Yes, Adams Co was formed from York Co in 1800. I have never found another Andrew Kohler except the one you mention. Here is my FGS for the father. I found no record of what happened to the son Andrew. Notice Andrew (II) is a brother to Baltzer of Manchester. I have additional info if you are interested. Regards, Gene SMith, Pasadena, CA gsmithsan@aol.com HUSBAND: Andrew Kohler Koler (II) Born: 29 Oct 1760 Manchester Twp ?, York Co, PA Marr: after 1783 Res: Hanover area, Adams Co, PA Died: 3 Apr 1825 Hanover, York Co, PA Buried: Apr 1825 St Matthew Church, Hanover, PA No4: Pvt, Rev War, Cpt Koppenhaffer Father: Andreas "Andrew" (1720-1787) Kohler Mother: Maria Magdalena WIFE: Margareth Becker Born: 6 May 176410 Died: 1 Sep 1833 Hanover, York Co, PA Buried: Sep 1833 Hanover, York Co, PA CHILDREN (X = ancestor of preparer) 1 Name: Jacob (1784-1837) Kohler M Born: 28 Jun 1784 Marr: circa 1807 To: Maria Died: 2 Aug 1837 Buried: Aug 1837 St Matthew, Church, Hanover, PA 2 Name: Maria Catharina Kohler F Born: 26 Nov 1788 Bap: 10 Jan 1789 Quickel's Ch, Conewago Twp, York Co, PA Died: (deceased) 3 Name: Elisabeth Kohler F Born: 24 Sep 1790 Bap: 24 Oct 1790 Quickel's Ch, Conewago Twp, York Co, PA Died: (deceased) 4 Name: Andreas Kohler (KOLER)19 M Born: 25 Nov 1795 Bap: 17 Mar 1796 Hanover, York Co, PA Died: (deceased) No2: 25 Nov 1795 (??) Hanover, York Co, PA 5 Name: Daniel Kohler (KOLER) M Born: 12 Nov 1797 Died: (deceased) Bap: 6 Mar 1798 Hanover, York Co, PA Prepared by: Gene Carlton Smith Rel. to husband: 4G-GrandNephew Rel. to wife: ============================================================ REFERENCES - NOTE: Many footnotes deleted 1 Will of Andrew Kohler G-155 [471], Microfilm, SL 22,132, WILL: w/6 Dec 1786 p/11 Jan 1787 .... ANDREW KOHLER "In the name of God Amen. I Andrew Kohler of Manchester Township ... my dear & beloved wife Maria Magdalen...bequeath to Joseph my first born son ...his equal share with the other nine children... I do appoint my said wife Maria Magdalen and my son Andrew whole and sole Executor ..." Probated: January 11, 1787 Christopher Greenwald and George Metzger confirmed the will in Court. A Letter Testamontary in Common form was given to Andrew Kohler but no township of residence given." [Note: This is Andrew II�s father.] 3 Mrs H.D. Sheppard, Tombstone Inscriptions, St Matthew, Church, Hanover, PA, Kohler, in custody of Hanover Public Library, Hanover, York Co, PA, KOHLER. In memory of/ Andrew Kohler/ who departed this life/ April the 3rd in the/ year A.D. 1825/ aged 64 years 5 months and 5 days. [s/o Andrew] KOHLER. In memory of/ Margaret wife of/ Andrew Kohler/ died September the 1st/ in the year A.D. 1833/ aged 69 years 3 months and 26 days. [Marg. BECKER] 8 Christ Luth Ch confirmed age 15 12 Notes: Quickel's Church, Conewago Twp, York C0, PA [1014], SLC FHC, Microfilm, 0020346, Abstracted, 23 Oct 1995, in custody of Gene Carlton Smith, Pasadena, Los Angeles Co, CA. 17 International Genealogical Index (IGI), FHC, Salt Lake City, UT . York Co Church Records v3p174; Sp: Conrad Becker (II) and Maria Catharine [--?--]. 19 Koler in York Co Church Records.

Good Morning! While I have no idea how to work with the information below, it could provide a lead for someone. The 2 people, whose file information is here, are children of Mary KOEHLER CHAO. Leslie Bridges Kohler 'Born' 8/17/98 the TROTTER surname list Variations of Köhler?? Join the KOEHLER list -- New York Chinese Exclusion Index Case Number: 132.00 908.00 Name: EUGENE CHAO   Alias: GEEN LAUNG CHAU Chinese:         Sex: M Port:   Birthplace: NEW YORK CITY HomeTown:   Occupation:   Address: 484 SOUTHSIDE AVE FREEPORT, NY Other Addresses:   Sponsor:   Wife: 0 Kids:   Case Description: R Sponsor Address:   Comments: MOTHER MARY KOEHLER CHAO Age: 7.00 Document Date: 19311941 THIRD:       BirthDate: 03261924 EntryDates:   1941 ............................................................................ ........ Case Number: 132.00 909.00 Name: THADDEUS CHAO   Alias:       Chinese:         Sex: M Port:   Birthplace: NEW YORK HomeTown:   Occupation:   Address: 484 SOUTHSIDE AVE FREEPORT, NY Other Addresses:   Sponsor:   Wife: 0 Kids:   Case Description: R Sponsor Address:   Comments: MOTHER MARY KOEHLER CHAO SEE ALSO FILE 132/908 Age: 4.00 Document Date: 19311941 THIRD:       BirthDate: 1927 EntryDates:   1941

North Carolina Marriage Records Spouse: CALER, Rachel Spouse: FRICK, Mathias Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1794 Location: Rowan Co.

Good morning all, Below is a post that you might like to read. BTW, sorry to have been out of touch. We are fighting our notorious, monsoon season here in the Phoenix area. So, I've had to be very careful about booting my system. Leslie ---------- > From: Bob & Jan Ihrig <rihrig@alaska.net> > To: KOEHLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: genealogy > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 7:03 PM > > Looking for any links with Elizabeth Kohler or Kollar born in 1874 and > died in 1915. Lived in McKeesport, Pa. Married Kostik/Kostick and > Schikerle. > > No info at Vital Records >

In a message dated 98-08-28 03:17:15 EDT, Cindy Palmer (Cinpalmer@aol.com) wrote: << Thanks for the information and the link--would love to know what more you have on my line, which I'll repost below: >> I have quite a bit since I helped a lady in Ohio who wrote a book on YOUR line. "A History of the Kohler Family 1720-1996" Compiled by Anna Mae (Rohrer) Kohler. The Wolgemuth-Bryan Co., Shelby, OH 1996. Sorry She didn't have any Palmer listed. Lots of good documents copied in it. And good pictures. Good stories about the early Kohlers and Brubakers. Her address was: Mrs John S Kohler 1184 Twp Road 1706 Route #4 Ashland, OH 44805

In a message dated 98-08-28 03:17:15 EDT, Cindy Palmer (Cinpalmer@aol.com) wrote << Is Hans Philip the father of that OTHER Baltzer? :-) >> Some say this Hans Philip Kohler never left Philadelphia and was not the father of Baltzer of Shrewsbury. The York Co Historical Society has a letter from a Mrs Owen [nee Kohler] in the 1930's that says Baltzer of Manchester is son of that Hans Philip. That I can prove beyond all doubt is not true. I've never tried to resolve who this Hans was, but of interest Andrew named one of his sons Hans Philip - interesting. Some say Baltzer of Shrewsbury was born in Berks county and came to York county with his mother and two brothers, John and Adam. I never was able to prove/disprove this. The Mrs Owen letter is the source of many genealogies being in error. However, the Society will not remove or attach a not to it. I might add that the dates of birth and death get intermixed for these two Baltzers. But I have Baltzer of Manchester's bap record and probated will to firm the dates. Regards, Gene Smith gsmithsan@aol.com

Hello Kohler list, I am looking for some help in linking my Kohlers in Juniata County with those of York. The last Kohler name I have is an ANDREW KOHLER born in 1795 in Adams County. If I understand this correctly, Adams and York were together at some point, then Adams split? I found one reference to an ANDREW being born to ANDREW KOHLER and MARGARET BECKER of York Co. on November 25, 1795. Does anyone have any solid reason to suspect that my ANDREW KOHLER is the actual son of ANDREW and MARGARET BECKER? My ANDREW moved to Juniata Co and ended up in Thompsontown. He married ANNA MARIA BRANNISHOLS on Nov 6, 1817. He retired in New Berlin, PA and died July 3, 1869. I have a little more information on my Andrew if anyone needs it. Thanks for your help. Steve Kohler in Indianapolis

I'm looking for relatives of Michael Kalaher (Kelleher) originally from England, but lived in Chicago, Ill. He is my great-grandfather. He was born in 1820-1830's. One of his son's, Thomas James Kalaher, was my grandfather. ps...I love this list! Thanks for all the work!

Hi - In looking at the ships list of the SS Manchuria which sailed from Hamburg in June, 1922 to New York, just noticed the following Kahlers: Ellen - going to join husband, C.W. Kahler in Sheepshead Bay, NY accompanied by two children: Henry George - age 14 George Hermann - age 9 Ellen's age was 40. Write me for further details on the above people. No other Kahlers on the ships list. Hope this helps someone. Karlyn Armstrong kdka@netins.net

In a message dated 8/27/98 5:20:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GSmithsan@aol.com writes: << Let me say this about Baltzer KOHLERs of York Co in 1700s. There were two: Baltzer KOHLER/COLAR of Manchester twp (my Line) and Baltzer KOHLER/KOLLER of Shrewsbury twp. The DAR records were wrong having Baltzer of Manchester children under Baltzer of Shrewsbury. It has taken years to get this rectified but the DAR now has it correct. I have also submitted Baltzer of Manchester to SAR and accepted National No 144345. However, Family Tree Maker CDs have it wrong and I fear will be the source of many incorrect family genealogies. If you need help here let me know. >> Ah, this probably explains why I had some differences between my records and yours--I hadn't responded yet b/c I hadn't looked up my source yet but I am sure it was something I found at the Mennonite Information Center in Lancaster, PA 5 or so years ago when I was last heavily into genealogical research. Anyway, I am descended from Baltzer m. Christina Lentz, as you are (I think I posted my line just before you joined the list...) But I had the Baltzer's father Hans/John Philip Kohler rather than Andreas/Andrew Kohler. Is Hans Philip the father of that OTHER Baltzer? :-) Thanks for the information and the link--would love to know what more you have on my line, which I'll repost below: Balthasar/Baltzer Kohler married Christina Lentz ABT 1775, daughter of George Philip Lentz. Child of Balthasar/Baltzer Kohler and Christina Lentz is: John Jacob Kohler (Balthasar/Baltzer) was born August 17, 1787 in Adams County, Pennsylvania, and died April 27, 1870 in Franklin Twp, Richland County, Ohio?. He married Elizabeth Miller 1813. Child of John Kohler and Elizabeth Miller is: 4. Daniel Kohler (John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer,) born August 14, 1814, died April 9, 1881 in Ashland County?, Ohio. He married Nancy Brubaker, daughter of John Brubaker and Elizabeth Brubaker. Children of Daniel Kohler and Nancy Brubaker are: 5 i. Aaron Kohler, born November 28, 1837; died May 1, 1838. 6 ii. John W. Kohler, born January 26, 1839; died January 3, 1906. He married Mary Hirsh. 7 iii. Elizabeth Kohler, born June 19, 1841; died March 9, 1894. She married John C. Kagen?. + 8 iv. Henry B. Kohler, born September 14, 1843 in Ashland County (Richland Co.?), Ohio; died September 26, 1877 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio. 9 v. Amos M. Kohler, born January 15, 1847. He married Alice A. Cotter. 10 vi. Wesley Kohler, born 1848; died 1851. 11 vii. Daniel W. Kohler, born November 10, 1850. He married Susan Coles. 12 viii. Jacob Kohler, born 1853; died 1856. 8. Henry B. Kohler (Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer) was born September 14, 1843 in Ashland County (Richland Co.?), Ohio, and died September 26, 1877 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio. He married Harriet(t) Brubaker December 21, 1872 in Ashland County, Ohio, daughter of John Brubaker and Elizabeth/Eliza Baer/Barr. Children of Henry Kohler and Harriet(t) Brubaker are: 13 i. Eddie/Edward V.6 Kohler, born September 27, 1872 in Milton Twp, Ashland County, Ohio; died August 31, 1937 in Ashland, Ashland County, Ohio. + 14 ii. Ida?/Mina? Kohler, born ABT 1875. + 15 iii. Adaline (Addie) M. Kohler, born February 27, 1877 in [Montgomery?/Milton?Twp, Ashland Co?) Ohio; died ABT 1961 in Ashland?, Ashland Co. Ohio. 14. Ida?/Mina? Kohler (Henry B., Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer,) was born ABT 1875. She married ? Love?. Child of Ida?/Mina? Kohler and ? Love? is: + 16 i. Lucille7 ?, born ABT 1900. 15. Adaline (Addie) M. Kohler (Henry B., Daniel, John Jacob, Balthasar/Baltzer) was born February 27, 1877 in [Montgomery?/Milton?Twp, Ashland Co?) Ohio, and died ABT 1961 in Ashland?, Ashland Co. Ohio. She married Charles Calvin Chapman March 13, 1898 in Ashland?, Ashland County, Ohio, son of Richard Chapman and Rhoda Webster. Child of Adaline Kohler and Charles Chapman is: + 17 i. Florence Ruth Chapman, born December 8, 1898 in Ashland, Ohio; died ABT May 17, 1954 in Swarthmore, Pennsylvania. (my grandmother) Thanks for all your information! --Cindy Palmer (Cinpalmer@aol.com)

Gene, The DAR record I had of Baltzer Kohler was received years ago so is probabaly wrong. I did not get any info from FTM, didn't know there was any <g>. So I won't bother to put it on the Page. I had not pursued the lineage far enough to determine that there were two, having put it on the back burner for years. I will go to your Web Page and look it over. If any questions you can be sure you will hear from me. Thanks for all your information. Maybe in those KEHLER listings you will be able to find a DANIEL HENRY KEHLER? Wishful thinking. Mary Ann STEWART Family Home Page <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/a/y/Mary-Ann--Kaylor/ On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:18:23 EDT GSmithsan@aol.com writes: >Re York Co, PA Church Records of 1700s - Mary Ann Kaylor wrote: ><<Thanks for the info from York Co. Churches. The name Baltzer KOHLER >is >familiar to me and in the past I have tried to connect our KAYLOR >family >to him.>> >Let me say this about Baltzer KOHLERs of York Co in 1700s. There were >two: >Baltzer KOHLER/COLAR of Manchester twp (my Line) and Baltzer >KOHLER/KOLLER of >Shrewsbury twp. The DAR records were wrong having Baltzer of >Manchester >children under Baltzer of Shrewsbury. It has taken years to get this >rectified >but the DAR now has it correct. I have also submitted Baltzer of >Manchester to >SAR and accepted National No 144345. However, Family Tree Maker CDs >have it >wrong and I fear will be the source of many incorrect family >genealogies. If >you need help here let me know. > ><<you mention there are KEHLER/KELLER listings. Am I right in >assuming that you did not list those variants? Dare I ask if you >could >send the KEHLER listings, too?>> >True, I did not include those surnames. Okay I'll do that, later. > ><<Do you have the KOHLER surname in your ancestry?>> >Yes, Baltzer Kohler of Manchester twp is my line. Baltzer's father, >Andrew, >was the immigrant and settled in Manchester twp, York Co, PA. I was >born in >York, PA. You may see my KOHLER families at my web page: >http://members.aol.com/gsmithsan/gspage1.htm [That's gs page one not >el.] > >Regards, Gene Smith, Pasadena, Calif gsmithsan@aol.com > > >==== KOEHLER Mailing List ==== >To post to the list, send email to KOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Unfortunately, due to past problems, RootsWeb no longer accepts any type of attachments. BUT, if you send it directy to the person (not through the list), you should be fine. Leslie (Bridges) Kohler ---------- > From: Roger Gleitz <gleitz@netpointe.com> > To: KOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KOEHLER-L] Kohls > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 8:36 PM > > Would it be possible to scan the photo and send it as a jpeg? Roger > > KOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > I have a photo taken in Cleveland, OH in the 1880's. It shows two elderly > > adults (Fredrick and his wife?), and 5 younger adults. I know that two of the > > adults were Franz (Frank) and Wilhelm (William). All were born in Prussia. > > Does this fit into anyone's family? > > > > Thank You, > > > > Bob > > > > ==== KOEHLER Mailing List ==== > > Please share any found information with the group. > > To post to the list, send email to KOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== KOEHLER Mailing List ==== > To search the archives, go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > When you get there, enter the list name as KOEHLER-L, > push the submit button and you are there. > > >

Re York Co, PA Church Records of 1700s - Mary Ann Kaylor wrote: <<Thanks for the info from York Co. Churches. The name Baltzer KOHLER is familiar to me and in the past I have tried to connect our KAYLOR family to him.>> Let me say this about Baltzer KOHLERs of York Co in 1700s. There were two: Baltzer KOHLER/COLAR of Manchester twp (my Line) and Baltzer KOHLER/KOLLER of Shrewsbury twp. The DAR records were wrong having Baltzer of Manchester children under Baltzer of Shrewsbury. It has taken years to get this rectified but the DAR now has it correct. I have also submitted Baltzer of Manchester to SAR and accepted National No 144345. However, Family Tree Maker CDs have it wrong and I fear will be the source of many incorrect family genealogies. If you need help here let me know. <<you mention there are KEHLER/KELLER listings. Am I right in assuming that you did not list those variants? Dare I ask if you could send the KEHLER listings, too?>> True, I did not include those surnames. Okay I'll do that, later. <<Do you have the KOHLER surname in your ancestry?>> Yes, Baltzer Kohler of Manchester twp is my line. Baltzer's father, Andrew, was the immigrant and settled in Manchester twp, York Co, PA. I was born in York, PA. You may see my KOHLER families at my web page: http://members.aol.com/gsmithsan/gspage1.htm [That's gs page one not el.] Regards, Gene Smith, Pasadena, Calif gsmithsan@aol.com

Re York Co, PA Church Records of 1700s - Mary Ann Kaylor wrote: <<Thanks for the info from York Co. Churches. The name Baltzer KOHLER is familiar to me and in the past I have tried to connect our KAYLOR family to him.>> Let me say this about Baltzer KOHLERs of York Co in 1700s. There were two: Baltzer KOHLER/COLAR of Manchester twp (my Line) and Baltzer KOHLER/KOLLER of Shrewsbury twp. The DAR records were wrong having Baltzer of Manchester children under Baltzer of Shrewsbury. It has taken years to get this rectified but the DAR now has it correct. I have also submitted Baltzer of Manchester to SAR and accepted National No 144345. However, Family Tree Maker CDs have it wrong and I fear will be the source of many incorrect family genealogies. If you need help here let me know. <<you mention there are KEHLER/KELLER listings. Am I right in assuming that you did not list those variants? Dare I ask if you could send the KEHLER listings, too?>> True, I did not include those surnames. Okay I'll do that, later. <<Do you have the KOHLER surname in your ancestry?>> Yes, Baltzer Kohler of Manchester twp is my line. Baltzer's father, Andrew, was the immigrant and settled in Manchester twp, York Co, PA. I was born in York, PA. You may see my KOHLER families at my web page: http://members.aol.com/gsmithsan/gspage1.htm [That's gs page one not el.] Regards, Gene Smith, Pasadena, Calif gsmithsan@aol.com