Dana, Many thanks. Again, we just don't know. Regards, Clyde The Essex Antiquarian reports this will for Margery Knowlton: ffebruary the 20th:1653 This is to Certify that I Margery Knoulton widdow do make my brother Thomas Knoulton Executor to me & Assigne in my stead to fulfill my husbands will in my Roome & also for my selfe to giue to my Children according to our wills, for my household goods which are at my disposeing I doe giue equally to be deuided to my 3 children John Elisabeth and Abraham, onely I giue my great Byble to John, & all my weareing parrell to Elisabeth & a Iron pott with a bed tike that is hers & 20s that is Johns and 2 Candlesticks that are Abrahams. And I make mr Tredwell & my brother Wilson my overseers. Also Abraham is to haue the yearne & cloth to make his two shifts & to haue a new hatt. These 3 interlinews were made before she set her hand. the marke of Margery Knoulton [In the margin of the record, midway is written: "These are beside the Diuision."] pued in Court held at Ipswich the 28th (1) 1654 by the oaths of Theophilus Wilson Elisabeth Wilson and mary Tredwell. p. me Robert Lord Cleric. [Notice how she refers to her brother-in-law, Thomas Knowlton, as "brother". Savage on Theophilus Wilson: "THEOPHILUS, Ipswich 1636, had perhaps d. Seaborn, b. on his passage, freem. 13 Mar. 1639, was constable for long time, and prison-keep. had w. Eliz. in 1654, wh. d. 10 Jan. 1681; but she may not have been mo. of all, or even any of the ch. He d. 29 July 1689, aged 88, leav. S. Thomas, s.-in-law John Pindar, and David Fiske, and gr.ch. Eliz. Lovell, Eliz. Russell, and Thomas Pindar." The Will of Jane Kenning: Vol. I, p 165 of the Probate Records of Essex County, MA; under the heading of: Estate of Jane Kenning of Ipswich: "The 14th of 12th mth 1653. This is to certify that I Jane Kenning being in perfect memory do make my two sisters Elizabeth Wilson and Margery Knowlton to be my executrixes........" "John Knowlton I give twenty pounds; & to the rest of my sisters children ten pounds a peece Elisabeth Knowlton Elisabeth Wilson Seaborne Wilson, & Abraham Knowlton, And to my brother Wilsons sone Thomas, three pounds, & the rest for my mothers use during her life......" [I have tried to be meticulous about punctuation & capitals here.] Witness: Mary Tredwell, Thomas Knowlton. Proved Mar. 28, 1654 by Thomas Knowlton and Mary wife of Thomas Tredwell. Copy of will, Ipswich Deeds, vol. 1, leaf 140. There are several ways the above combination of names could be applied, especially if one were to use the term "brother" or "sister" for "brother-in-law" or "sister-in-law". One of those possibilities is that Jane Kenning, Theophilus Wilson, and Margery Knowlton might be all Wilsons and siblings. But, that isn't the only possibility. It is also possible that Jane, Margery, and Theophilus' wife, Elizabeth were sisters, with a completely different name. It's also interesting the Tredwells are witnesses to both wills, but named in either. Torrey says the wife of Thomas Treadwell was Mary Taylor. I have presently entered the above set of names in my database as: Descendants of Possible Siblings Wilson 1 Possible Siblings Wilson 1580 - .............. 2 Theophilus Wilson 1601 - 1689 ............................... 3 Thomas Wilson 1634 - 1703 ................................... +Jane Swan 1635 - 1709 .................. +Elizabeth 1610 - 1681 .............. 2 Margery [Wilson?] 1614 - 1655 .................. +John Knowlton 1610 - 1653 ............................... 3 John Knowlton 1633 - 1684 ................................... +Deborah Grant 1637 - 1666 ............................... *2nd Wife of John Knowlton: ................................... +Sarah 1635 - 1679 ............................... 3 Abraham Knowlton 1635 - 1688 ............................... 3 Elizabeth Knowlton 1639 - 1688 .............. 2 [Wilson?] 1620 - ............................... 3 Elizabeth Wilson 1654 - ............................... 3 Seaborn Wilson 1655 - ................................... +David Fiske 1655 - .............. 2 Jane [Wilson?] 1620 - 1653 .................. +Kenning 1620 - -----Original Message----- From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:41 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons I was just investigating more on-line and "discovered" a site that has the transcription of the wills of John Knowlton and wife Marjery. From the information, it appears her brother's name is Theopolis Wilson. I don't know where this will lead. The site is: home.att.net/~geneajan/JKnowltonWill.html I will be interested to hear what anyone thinks about that. Although it is probably not news to some of you. Dana On Nov 7, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Vanderbrouk wrote: > Dana, > Yes, it was Marjery. I have checked all known ship records (at that > time records were "hit or miss"). It is doubtful that emigrants at > that > time moved from Barbados to New England. Although possible, to my > knowledge (after extensive research), no records exist. All we know is > that these people were part of "The Great Migration". Some things will > never be known. I have come to accept this fact after many years of > research. > Clyde > > -----Original Message----- > From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 4:51 PM > To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons > > Thanks for your reply, Clyde. > > Is her name really spelled "Marjery" I thought it was "Marjory". Has > anyone checked ships leaving England, but arriving in Canada? Some > research has indicated settlers moving through the Barbados and then > into America. What about that possibility? I guess it is definitive > that her last name was Wilson. > > Thank you! > > Dana > On Nov 7, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Vanderbrouk wrote: > >> Dana, >> Alas, to my knowledge, nothing is know about Marjery's origin. For >> that >> matter, we know nothing about the ship he/she arrived on or the year > of >> their arrival. Lastly, we know nothing regarding their cause(s) of >> death, although influenza was a known killer at that time. >> Clyde >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:36 PM >> To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons >> >> Does anyone know anything regarding John Knowlton's wife Marjory >> Wilson? She was born in England (I believe), did she come over with >> John- or was she with her own family? My notes show they both died the >> same year. Was there an outbreak of something in 1653 in Ipswich, MA? >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Dana Jensen >> On Nov 7, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Vanderbrouk wrote: >> >>> Joan wrote: >>> >>> Do we know who was the first Knowlton to emigrate from >>> UK ??? >>> >>> The first known Knowltons to emigrate from England were John, > William, >>> and Thomas Knowlton, first found in the records of Ipswich, >>> Massachusetts ca. 1640. >>> Regards, >>> Clyde >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. 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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanderbrouk" <rpckvv@swbell.net> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:55 AM Subject: RE: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons > Dana, > Many thanks. Again, we just don't know. Regards, Clyde > The Essex Antiquarian reports this will for Margery Knowlton: > > ffebruary the 20th:1653 > This is to Certify that I Margery Knoulton widdow do make my brother > Thomas Knoulton Executor to me & Assigne in my stead to fulfill my > husbands will in my Roome & also for my selfe to giue to my Children > according to our wills, for my household goods which are at my > disposeing I doe giue equally to be deuided to my 3 children John > Elisabeth and Abraham, onely I giue my great Byble to John, & all my > weareing parrell to Elisabeth & a Iron pott with a bed tike that is hers > & 20s that is Johns and 2 Candlesticks that are Abrahams. And I make mr > Tredwell & my brother Wilson my overseers. Also Abraham is to haue the > yearne & cloth to make his two shifts & to haue a new hatt. These 3 > interlinews were made before she set her hand. the marke of Margery > Knoulton > > > [In the margin of the record, midway is written: "These are beside the > Diuision."] pued in Court held at Ipswich the 28th (1) 1654 by the oaths > of Theophilus Wilson Elisabeth Wilson and mary Tredwell. p. me Robert > Lord Cleric. > > [Notice how she refers to her brother-in-law, Thomas Knowlton, as > "brother". > > Savage on Theophilus Wilson: > "THEOPHILUS, Ipswich 1636, had perhaps d. Seaborn, b. on his passage, > freem. 13 Mar. 1639, was constable for long time, and prison-keep. had > w. Eliz. in 1654, wh. d. 10 Jan. 1681; but she may not have been mo. of > all, or even any of the ch. He d. 29 July 1689, aged 88, leav. S. > Thomas, s.-in-law John Pindar, and David Fiske, and gr.ch. Eliz. Lovell, > Eliz. Russell, and Thomas Pindar." > > The Will of Jane Kenning: > Vol. I, p 165 of the Probate Records of Essex County, MA; under the > heading of: Estate of Jane Kenning of Ipswich: > "The 14th of 12th mth 1653. This is to certify that I Jane Kenning > being in perfect memory do make my two sisters Elizabeth Wilson and > Margery Knowlton to be my executrixes........" > > "John Knowlton I give twenty pounds; & to the rest of my sisters > children ten pounds a peece Elisabeth Knowlton Elisabeth Wilson Seaborne > > Wilson, & Abraham Knowlton, And to my brother Wilsons sone Thomas, > three pounds, & the rest for my mothers use during her life......" [I > have tried to be meticulous about punctuation & capitals here.] > > Witness: Mary Tredwell, Thomas Knowlton. > Proved Mar. 28, 1654 by Thomas Knowlton and Mary wife of Thomas > Tredwell. > > Copy of will, Ipswich Deeds, vol. 1, leaf 140. > > There are several ways the above combination of names could be applied, > especially if one were to use the term "brother" or "sister" for > "brother-in-law" or "sister-in-law". One of those possibilities is that > Jane Kenning, Theophilus Wilson, and Margery Knowlton might be all > Wilsons and siblings. But, that isn't the only possibility. It is also > possible that Jane, Margery, and Theophilus' wife, Elizabeth were > sisters, with a completely different name. > > It's also interesting the Tredwells are witnesses to both wills, but > named in either. Torrey says the wife of Thomas Treadwell was Mary > Taylor. > > I have presently entered the above set of names in my database as: > > > Descendants of Possible Siblings Wilson > > 1 Possible Siblings Wilson 1580 - > .............. 2 Theophilus Wilson 1601 - 1689 > ............................... 3 Thomas Wilson 1634 - 1703 > ................................... +Jane Swan 1635 - 1709 > .................. +Elizabeth 1610 - 1681 > .............. 2 Margery [Wilson?] 1614 - 1655 > .................. +John Knowlton 1610 - 1653 > ............................... 3 John Knowlton 1633 - 1684 > ................................... +Deborah Grant 1637 - 1666 > ............................... *2nd Wife of John Knowlton: > ................................... +Sarah 1635 - 1679 > ............................... 3 Abraham Knowlton 1635 - 1688 > ............................... 3 Elizabeth Knowlton 1639 - 1688 > .............. 2 [Wilson?] 1620 - > ............................... 3 Elizabeth Wilson 1654 - > ............................... 3 Seaborn Wilson 1655 - > ................................... +David Fiske 1655 - > .............. 2 Jane [Wilson?] 1620 - 1653 > .................. +Kenning 1620 - > > -----Original Message----- > From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:41 PM > To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons > > I was just investigating more on-line and "discovered" a site that has > the transcription of the wills of John Knowlton and wife Marjery. From > the information, it appears her brother's name is Theopolis Wilson. > I don't know where this will lead. > The site is: home.att.net/~geneajan/JKnowltonWill.html > > I will be interested to hear what anyone thinks about that. Although it > is probably not news to some of you. > > Dana > On Nov 7, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Vanderbrouk wrote: > >> Dana, >> Yes, it was Marjery. I have checked all known ship records (at that >> time records were "hit or miss"). It is doubtful that emigrants at >> that >> time moved from Barbados to New England. Although possible, to my >> knowledge (after extensive research), no records exist. All we know > is >> that these people were part of "The Great Migration". Some things > will >> never be known. I have come to accept this fact after many years of >> research. >> Clyde >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 4:51 PM >> To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons >> >> Thanks for your reply, Clyde. >> >> Is her name really spelled "Marjery" I thought it was "Marjory". Has >> anyone checked ships leaving England, but arriving in Canada? Some >> research has indicated settlers moving through the Barbados and then >> into America. What about that possibility? I guess it is definitive >> that her last name was Wilson. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Dana >> On Nov 7, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Vanderbrouk wrote: >> >>> Dana, >>> Alas, to my knowledge, nothing is know about Marjery's origin. For >>> that >>> matter, we know nothing about the ship he/she arrived on or the year >> of >>> their arrival. Lastly, we know nothing regarding their cause(s) of >>> death, although influenza was a known killer at that time. >>> Clyde >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:36 PM >>> To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] First Knowltons >>> >>> Does anyone know anything regarding John Knowlton's wife Marjory >>> Wilson? She was born in England (I believe), did she come over with >>> John- or was she with her own family? My notes show they both died > the >>> same year. Was there an outbreak of something in 1653 in Ipswich, MA? >>> Thanks for any help. >>> >>> Dana Jensen >>> On Nov 7, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Vanderbrouk wrote: >>> >>>> Joan wrote: >>>> >>>> Do we know who was the first Knowlton to emigrate from >>>> UK ??? >>>> >>>> The first known Knowltons to emigrate from England were John, >> William, >>>> and Thomas Knowlton, first found in the records of Ipswich, >>>> Massachusetts ca. 1640. >>>> Regards, >>>> Clyde >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. 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