I guess I am sorta stuck in a quandry. I have a Revolutionary (and War of 1812) Knowlton ancestor, Robert Knowlton (abt 1748-abt 1839), but can't seem to prove his parents. Stocking consistently is inconsistent on sorting out which Robert Knowlton is which, so is of little help, and I don't know where to look for primary source material since he seems to have moved at least a few times, and I am not the least bit familiar with the New England area. I have this one lone line that goes that direction. Ask me a question about Maryland, Virginia, Kentucky and southern Indiana, or better yet, German immigration in the mid 19th century (esp. ships traveling from Bremen to Baltimore with tons of immigrants from the "Kahlgrund" in Bavaria), and I can help you. Massachusetts? Vermont?? New York??? Where's that???? Many of my ancestors and relatives would have referred to them as "D___ Yankees" or worse. So I will again make my plea for anybody who may have information leading to the capture of one Robert Knowlton. Further information follows... Patrick Descendants of Robert KNOWLTON - 7 Feb 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- First Generation 1. Robert KNOWLTON was born in 1748. He died in 1839 in Mercer Co., OH. He served in the Revolutionary War. He may be the son of Andrew Knowlton and Abigail Stone, and then again, he may not be. He may be the Robert Knowlton in the 1790 Census of Woodstock, Windsor Co., VT: Knowlton, Robert 1 male over 16, 4 males under 16, 2 females, 7 total people in household He appears in the 1820 Census of Meigs Co., OH with his son Chauncey, aged 45+. He appears in the 1830 Census of Athens Co., OH with his son Daniel, aged 70-80. The following is most of the text of an e-mail that I sent to the Knowlton listserve, 5-23-98: I don't know a lot about the Knowlton family, it's a family that I have only just begun to research, so bear with me as I muddle through this. My great great grandfather was John J. Hays (1837-1901) who lived most of his life in Blackford Co., IN. He was a son of Henry Hays (who died relatively early) and Lucinda Knowlton. Henry and Lucinda were married in Washington Co., OH in 1825. After much searching and sorting, I have come to the conclusion by process of elimination that she is almost certainly the daughter of William Knowlton (1777-1828 bur. Rinard Mills, Monroe Co., OH) and his first wife, Eunice McVay (1783-1824). William Knowlton first appeared in Washington Co., OH before 1810. According to the biographical sketch (1882, Monroe Co., OH) of John Knowlton (1803-1883), William Knowlton was born in Vermont and was a son of Robert Knowlton, who fought in the Rev. War. In nearby Athens and Meigs Co., Oh there was a Robert Knowlton who was a Rev. War vet living with his son Chauncey. This Robert Knowlton died in about 1839 in or around Mercer Co., OH. The children of Chauncey went on to South Bend, IN and Iowa among other places. This family appears in Stocking. Chauncey is #595 and Robert is #284, but there are some problems. If Stocking (or even the addenda) was correct, William 599 Knowlton who married Barbara Ritz would have been the son of Robert 284 Knowlton. This is not very likely since William 599 was born in about 1838, when Robert 284 was a very old man (about 95 years old using Stockings date for his birth). William 599 it turns out is actually the SON of Chauncey 595. I have tracked most of the children of Chauncey down, and with this sole exception, Stocking seems to be accurate to this point. Robert 284 Knowlton, father of Chauncey had a pension from the Rev. War (#S41734). In his pension application, he claims that he enlisted as a private on May 1, 1775 at Bedford, MA under Capt. Thomas Kempton and Col. Danielson. He was discharged in February 1776. He enlisted again into Capt. Noah Hull's company in Col. Aaron Willard's regiment in Spring 1776. And was discharged again (no date given). He enlisted yet a third time at Bedford, MA into Capt. Nathaniel Jarvis' company in Col. Henry Jackson's regiment and served for three years. This matches, for the most part with the records cited in the massive Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors of the Revolutionary War (vol.IX, KAB-LSU) for "Robert Knowlton of Dartmouth" and "Robert Knowlton of Yarmouth (or Dartmouth)", which has much more detail about his movements in the war. Also according to this pension application he served in the War of 1812. He volunteered at age 65 in 1813 as a sharpshooter and served for 14 months in Capt. John Lyte's company, First U. S. Rifle Regiment. During this time he apparently lived in Sackett's Harbor, NY. He first applied for pension in 1818 as a resident of Athens Co., OH. Stocking says this about Robert 284 Knowlton: "Robert was a sailor. He removed from Mechias, Me., to Vermont , and engaged in farming. He served in the Revolutionary War, in Captain Allin's company, Colonel Bradford's regiment, having enlisted for the whole war. He also served in the War of 1812. He married at, or near, Sackett's Harbor, N. Y., and removed west." According to the Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors of the Revolutionary War (vol.IX, KAB-LSU), this matches up with a "Robert Knowlton of Machias". Unless Robert Knowlton was into magic and could be two places at once, this is a different man! The Robert Knowlton who had the children attributed to Robert 284 was not from Machias,. ME. In the 1850 census of Athens Co., OH there appears Daniel Knowlton (presumably Stocking #598) aged 68, born in Vermont. IN the 1850 census of Delaware Co., OH there appears Lydia McGeorge (Stocking 597) age 50 also born in Vermont. Chauncey and Robert Knowlton did not appear in Washington Co., OH until after 1810 (likely 1818). The first two children of Chauncey were born in New York in 1815 and 1817. Robert was in Athens Co., OH in 1818. In 1820 he probably appeared in the census of Meigs Co., OH in the home of Chauncey. Robert Knowlton probably also appeared in the 1790 census of Vermont in Woodstock, Windsor Co, with 4 boys under the age of 16 (William, Chauncey, Daniel and Levi??). Robert 284 Knowlton is listed in Stocking and addenda as being born on May 26, 1743, and son of Andrew 139 Knowlton and Abigail Stone. He is supposed to have married a Perry and a Pratt. According to the marriage records of the town of Rochester, MA, Robert Nolton, of Dartmouth married Rachel Perry of Rochester on May 17, 1777. This is a bit unusual, since there were no other records of Knowlton's in Dartmouth (or Rochester) according to the vital statistics, and there was no records of a birth for Rachel Perry in Rochester (or Dartmouth). However, "Robert Knowlton of Dartmouth" is also the man who fought in the Rev. War and removed to Ohio. During May 1777 he was not busy serving in the war. He enlisted for his third tour on June 25, 1777. However, in another unusual twist, William Knowlton of Washington and Monroe Cos., OH who was presumably his son was born on June 3, 1777, a mere two weeks after he married Rachel Perry. As luck would have it he was NOT away at war nine months prior to this birth. However, why would he wait until the last minute to marry Rachel, if she was pregnant, and why would he go off to war again so soon thereafter. The birth of William does not appear in Dartmouth, Rochester or any other MA vital statistics that I have seen. Supposedly he was born in Vermont. Was the Robert Knowlton who went to Ohio the son of Andrew Knowlton and Abigail Stone, or was the Robert Knowlton who was from Machias, ME their son??? There are other Robert Knowltons in Stocking and Errata that come into question along these same lines. On p. 580, the list of Robert Knowltons who fought in the Rev. is totally identified in the Errata except for Robert Knowlton of Dartmouth. This is likely the man who married Rachel Perry and is most certainly the man who ended up in Ohio. On p. 588, Robert Knowlton, Pension 44485 served in the exact same company as Amos 381 Knowlton. Stocking has a brother Robert 386 for Amos 381, however, he supposedly changed his name to Rogers according to Stocking and Errata. On p. 53 Robert 476 Knowlton is not accounted for as far as descendants are concerned. He was born on February 6, 1748. Robert Knowlton of Dartmouth and Ohio was 70 in 1818, which comes out to 1748 (as opposed to Robert 284 Knowlton who was born in 1743). Abraham 237 Knowlton, uncle of Robert 476, had a son named Amasa. This is a uncommon derivative of Amos. Chauncey, son of Robert of Dartmouth and Ohio, also had a son Amasa. Robert KNOWLTON and Rachel PERRY were married on 17 May 1777 in Rochester, Plymouth Co., MA. Rachel PERRY. Robert KNOWLTON and Rachel PERRY had the following children: +2 i. William KNOWLTON (born on 3 Jun 1777). +3 ii. Daniel KNOWLTON (born in 1782). +4 iii. Chauncey KNOWLTON (born between 1790 and 1794). 5 iv. Levi KNOWLTON. 6 v. Sophia KNOWLTON. 7 vi. Lottie KNOWLTON. +8 vii. Lydia KNOWLTON (born in 1800). Second Generation 2. William KNOWLTON (Robert-1) was born on 3 Jun 1777 in Vermont?. He died on 4 Aug 1828 in Washington Co., OH. He was buried in Rinard Mills Cem., Monroe Co., OH. >From the 1810 Census of Washington Co., OH, Newport Township William Knowlton 2 males under 10, 1 male 26-45, 3 females under 10, 1 female 26-45 >From the 1820 Census of Washington Co., OH, Ludlow Township, page 224A William Knowlton 2 males under 10, 1 male 16-18, 2 males 18-26, 1 male 26-45, 1 female under 10, 2 females 10-16, 2 females 16-26, 1 female 26-45, 1 person involved in agriculture William KNOWLTON and Eunice MCVAY were married about 1800. Eunice MCVAY (daughter of Benjamin MCVAY and Sarah [ ? Lindley ?] LINN) was born on 30 Mar 1783. She died on 8 Jul 1824 in Washington Co., OH. She was buried in Rinard Mills Cem., Monroe Co., OH. William KNOWLTON and Eunice MCVAY had the following children: +9 i. Daniel KNOWLTON (born about 1800). 10 ii. Jeremiah KNOWLTON was born between 1795 and 1800. 11 iii. Betsy KNOWLTON was born between 1794 and 1804. 12 iv. Daughter KNOWLTON was born between 1794 and 1804. +13 v. John KNOWLTON (born on 19 Oct 1803). +14 vi. Lucinda KNOWLTON (born about 1807). +15 vii. Eunice KNOWLTON (born in 1809). +16 viii. Calvin P. KNOWLTON (born in 1812). +17 ix. William KNOWLTON (born on 10 Feb 1818). 18 x. Luther KNOWLTON was born between 1810 and 1820. 19 xi. Daughter KNOWLTON was born between 1810 and 1820. 20 xii. Robert KNOWLTON was born between 1820 and 1828. William KNOWLTON and Isabel ? were married between 1824 and 1828. Isabel ? was born between 1775 and 1784 in Ohio. 3. Daniel KNOWLTON (Robert-1) was born in 1782 in Vermont. He died on 13 Oct 1865 in Athens Co., OH. ROGER O YOUNG Microfilm: 327 FRANKLIN STREET Submission: AF97117323 MARIETTA OH USA 45750 >From the 1820 Census of Athens Co., OH, Lee Township, page 129 Daniel Knolton, 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-16, 1 male 26-45, 1 female under 10, 1 female 26-45, 1 person involved in agriculture >From the 1830 Census of Athens Co., OH, Lee Township, page 193 Daniel Nolton, 2 males under 5, 2 males 5-10, 3 males 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 40-50, 1 male 70-80, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 30-40 >From the 1840 Census of Athens Co., OH, Lee Township, page 339 Daniel Knowlton, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 males 15-20, 2 males 20-30, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 40-50 >From the 1850 Census of Athens Co., OH, Lee Township, page 174, house #55, family #58 Daniel Knowlton, age 68, farmer, $2000, born in VERMONT Amis " , 23, farmer, OH Humphrey " , 21, " , OH Vinton " , 20, " , OH Levi " , 18, " , OH Daniel KNOWLTON and Ruth HOLDREN were married on 8 Sep 1808 in Washington Co., OH. Ruth HOLDREN was born in 1793. She died on 1 Mar 1846 in Athens Co., OH. Daniel KNOWLTON and Ruth HOLDREN had the following children: +21 i. Coleman KNOWLTON (born in 1810). +22 ii. Stephen KNOWLTON (born in 1814). +23 iii. David KNOWLTON (born about 1816). +24 iv. Daniel KNOWLTON (born in 1819). 25 v. Daughter KNOWLTON was born about 1820. +26 vi. Robert KNOWLTON (born in 1822). +27 vii. Hiram KNOWLTON (born in 1824). 28 viii. Son KNOWLTON was born between 1825 and 1830. He died between 1830 and 1840. +29 ix. Amos KNOWLTON (born in 1827). +30 x. Humphrey L. KNOWLTON (born in 1829). +31 xi. Vinton KNOWLTON (born in 1830). +32 xii. Levi KNOWLTON (born in 1832). 4. Chauncey KNOWLTON (Robert-1) was born between 1790 and 1794. He died before 1850. >From the 1820 Census of Meigs Co., OH, Salem Township, page 115A Chauncey Knowlton, 3 males under 10, 1 male 26-45, 1 male over 45, 2 females 16-26, 3 persons are involved in agriculture. >From the 1830 Census of Mercer Co., OH, Dublin Township, page 267 Chauncey Knowlton, 3 males under 5, 1 male 5-10, 2 males 10-15, 1 male 30-40, 1 female under 5, 2 females 10-15, 1 female 30-40 >From the 1840 Census of Mercer Co., OH, Black Creek Township, page 83 Chauncey Nolton, 1 male under 5, 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 40-50 Chauncey KNOWLTON and Annie PHILLIPS were married. Annie PHILLIPS was born between 1794 and 1800. She died before 1850. Chauncey KNOWLTON and Annie PHILLIPS had the following children: +33 i. Amasa KNOWLTON (born in 1815). +34 ii. Levi KNOWLTON (born in 1817). +35 iii. Perry KNOWLTON (born about 1820). +36 iv. Hannah KNOWLTON (born in 1821). +37 v. Rosanna KNOWLTON (born in 1823). +38 vi. Sophronia KNOWLTON (born about 1825). 39 vii. Robert KNOWLTON was born about 1827. +40 viii. Frederick KNOWLTON (born in 1828). +41 ix. Chauncey KNOWLTON (born in 1829). +42 x. Electa KNOWLTON. +43 xi. Lydia KNOWLTON (born in 1834). +44 xii. William KNOWLTON (born in 1838). 8. Lydia KNOWLTON (Robert-1) was born in 1800 in Vermont. Lydia KNOWLTON and Samuel P. (?) MCGEORGE were married. Samuel P. (?) MCGEORGE died before 1850. >From the 1830 Census of Meigs Co., OH, Salem Township, page 255 Samuel P. McGeorge, 1 male under 5, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 30-40, 1 female under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 30-40 >From the 1850 Census of Delware Co., OH, Trenton Township, page 161, house 931, family 932 Lydia McGeorge, age 50, born in VT Sylvester, 24, OH Valuska (fem.), 20, OH Elisa, 18, OH Margaret, 15, OH Washington, 12, OH Lydia KNOWLTON and Samuel P. (?) MCGEORGE had the following children: 45 i. Sylvester MCGEORGE was born in 1826 in Ohio. 46 ii. Valuska MCGEORGE was born in 1830 in Ohio. 47 iii. Eliza MCGEORGE was born in 1832 in Ohio. 48 iv. Margaret MCGEORGE was born in 1835 in Ohio. 49 v. Washington MCGEORGE was born in 1838 in Ohio. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Noyes" <dbnoyes@comcast.net> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann Elizabeth Smith > Kathleen, > > Irrespective of Cantize, Balch, Elizabeth or Ann...I'm just happy enough to > get back to John Knowlton (m. Bethia Edwards); as this began the lineage > which makes Thomas Knowlton (b. 18 Jan 1759, and a Revolutionary War > veteran) my gggg grandfather and the vehicle for my daughters' admission to > the DAR!!! I've only been actively researching my roots for the past half > a year, and with nothing more than the web and the county library...I've > been amazed at what is available (information-wise) "out there". Two > things that I have learned is that your searches should be open ended with > no particular goal in sight, and you need to branch out from every single > union along the way. You could be VERY surprised at what you find. > > > Regards, > > David Noyes