I have been reading all of the posts regarding the Knowlton's and I'm now all confused. I am a direct descendant of Benjamin Knowlton who married Susanna Dutch. I have concrete proof and I also have the Mayflower society to back me up. Back in the late 1800's my GG-Aunts researched the family line and since they were living in Hamilton Ma the records were very accessible. Benjamin Knowlton is the G-Grandson of Capt. William Knowlton and Ann Elizabeth Smith. Here is the rest of their connection. Their son William and Elizabeth Balch had a son named John Knowlton who married Bethia Edwards and Benjamin is a product of their union. Benjamin then married Susanna Dutch who was the Granddaugther of Richard More (a pilgrim). [ http://www.geocities.com/popepa_chick/Knowlton.html ] So now my question is - are you saying that Capt William Knowlton and Ann Elizabeth Smith are not the parents of John, Samuel Robert William, Mary and Thomas? Or, are you saying that William Knowlton is just not the son of this Richard Knowlton and Elizabeth Cantize? I have never had this connection between William and Richard before so I'm curious. If someone could please clarify I would be very appreciative. Until now I thought this was the one line was finished with! :-) Well if it isn't then I guess I am in search of Benjamin's true parents. Thanks for any help! Happy Hunting! Kathy Prior Executive Assistant Bayer HealthCare Technical Operations - North America 973-254-4621 973-408-8122 (Fax) Kathleen.Prior.B@Bayer "Vanderbrouk" <rpckvv@swbell.ne To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com t> cc: Subject: RE: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann 02/03/2004 05:49 Elizabeth Smith PM Please respond to KNOWLTON-L Dana, More information--- The matter of the mysterious "Captain" William and his alleged wife, Ann Elizabeth (Smith/Rice) keeps popping up on this list from time to time. No one has ever been able to find a positive link to Capt. Wm. and Ann for the three chaps who are first found at Ipswich, Mass. in the late 1630's and early 1640's. Some think that after the death of "Capt." Wm. in 1632 Ann Elizabeth sailed on to Hingham, Mass. where she married a John Tucker and died 10/8/1675. Even George K. Knowlton in his "Erratta and Addenda" has set forth this theory. Recently, I spent a few hours in our local library and researched the following sources: 1. "History of the Town of Hingham" (Published by the Town, 1893), in Vol. 1, at p. 202 it is stated that one William "Nolton" received a grant of land in 1635. There is no further mention of him in this substantial work. In fact, a William "Norton" became a freeman in 1636. I rather think that the "Nolton" reference was a typographical error. The Genealogical section makes no reference to Nolton/Knowlton, etc., but does contain portions devoted to early families Norton and Tucker. I believe that Ann Tucker who died 10/8/1675 was not Ann Elizabeth (Smith/Rice) Knowlton who allegedly married Capt. Wm. 2. "Ipswich in the Massachusetts Bay Colony", by Thomas Franklin Waters (The Ipswich Historical Society, 1905): In Part I, at p. 490 is to be found Appendix "A" (A Summary of the First Settlers from 1633 to 1649 with the First Year, when the Name occurs for the First Time in the Town Records), at p. 492-----John Knowlton (1639), William Knowlton (1641), and Thomas Knowlton (1642). In Oct., 1639, John Knowlton purchased a lot, with one small dwelling, from William Fuller (Ipswich Town Records). 3. "The Hammatt Papers, Early Inhabitants of Ipswich, Massachusetts, 1633 - 1700", by Abraham Hammatt (Genealogical Pub. Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1980 ---a reprint), at p. 186 we find that John Knowlton became a "commoner" in 1641. From the above, it appears that the Ann Tucker of Hingham may not have been Ann Elizabeth Knowlton and that our Knowlton ancestors first appeared in the "New World" ca. 1638-9. Hope that will lead to further dialogue. Regards, Clyde -----Original Message----- From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:43 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann Elizabeth Smith I don't, but would like it if you get it. I have heard that it was Elizabeth Cantize. Do you know for sure the spelling is Orcantiz? Where is she from?-Thanks for any help you can provide.-Dana On Feb 2, 2004, at 10:36 PM, calfindit@pacbell.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton, Smith, Canty, Orcantiz > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/26.37.40.46.122.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Re: Earlier posts of Tod Knowlton and Linda Blevins > > My direct line is William,b 1614. Any information is appreciated. > They died in Ipswich, Ma.. > > Would you have the linage going back from Richard K.and Elizabeth > Orcantiz? I had tried to email Linda Blevins earlier but she changed > address. > > I'm getting the feeling a large family as I have no parents, aunts, > uncles, cousins. Now I may have cousins many times removed. 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Kathleen, No one has ever been able to prove a link from the three Knowlton boys who settled at Ipswich, MA ca. 1640 to Capt. William and Ann Elizabeth. Regards, Clyde Vanderbrouk -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Prior [mailto:kathleen.prior.b@bayer.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:21 AM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann Elizabeth Smith I have been reading all of the posts regarding the Knowlton's and I'm now all confused. I am a direct descendant of Benjamin Knowlton who married Susanna Dutch. I have concrete proof and I also have the Mayflower society to back me up. Back in the late 1800's my GG-Aunts researched the family line and since they were living in Hamilton Ma the records were very accessible. Benjamin Knowlton is the G-Grandson of Capt. William Knowlton and Ann Elizabeth Smith. Here is the rest of their connection. Their son William and Elizabeth Balch had a son named John Knowlton who married Bethia Edwards and Benjamin is a product of their union. Benjamin then married Susanna Dutch who was the Granddaugther of Richard More (a pilgrim). [ http://www.geocities.com/popepa_chick/Knowlton.html ] So now my question is - are you saying that Capt William Knowlton and Ann Elizabeth Smith are not the parents of John, Samuel Robert William, Mary and Thomas? Or, are you saying that William Knowlton is just not the son of this Richard Knowlton and Elizabeth Cantize? I have never had this connection between William and Richard before so I'm curious. If someone could please clarify I would be very appreciative. Until now I thought this was the one line was finished with! :-) Well if it isn't then I guess I am in search of Benjamin's true parents. Thanks for any help! Happy Hunting! Kathy Prior Executive Assistant Bayer HealthCare Technical Operations - North America 973-254-4621 973-408-8122 (Fax) Kathleen.Prior.B@Bayer "Vanderbrouk" <rpckvv@swbell.ne To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com t> cc: Subject: RE: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann 02/03/2004 05:49 Elizabeth Smith PM Please respond to KNOWLTON-L Dana, More information--- The matter of the mysterious "Captain" William and his alleged wife, Ann Elizabeth (Smith/Rice) keeps popping up on this list from time to time. No one has ever been able to find a positive link to Capt. Wm. and Ann for the three chaps who are first found at Ipswich, Mass. in the late 1630's and early 1640's. Some think that after the death of "Capt." Wm. in 1632 Ann Elizabeth sailed on to Hingham, Mass. where she married a John Tucker and died 10/8/1675. Even George K. Knowlton in his "Erratta and Addenda" has set forth this theory. Recently, I spent a few hours in our local library and researched the following sources: 1. "History of the Town of Hingham" (Published by the Town, 1893), in Vol. 1, at p. 202 it is stated that one William "Nolton" received a grant of land in 1635. There is no further mention of him in this substantial work. In fact, a William "Norton" became a freeman in 1636. I rather think that the "Nolton" reference was a typographical error. The Genealogical section makes no reference to Nolton/Knowlton, etc., but does contain portions devoted to early families Norton and Tucker. I believe that Ann Tucker who died 10/8/1675 was not Ann Elizabeth (Smith/Rice) Knowlton who allegedly married Capt. Wm. 2. "Ipswich in the Massachusetts Bay Colony", by Thomas Franklin Waters (The Ipswich Historical Society, 1905): In Part I, at p. 490 is to be found Appendix "A" (A Summary of the First Settlers from 1633 to 1649 with the First Year, when the Name occurs for the First Time in the Town Records), at p. 492-----John Knowlton (1639), William Knowlton (1641), and Thomas Knowlton (1642). In Oct., 1639, John Knowlton purchased a lot, with one small dwelling, from William Fuller (Ipswich Town Records). 3. "The Hammatt Papers, Early Inhabitants of Ipswich, Massachusetts, 1633 - 1700", by Abraham Hammatt (Genealogical Pub. Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1980 ---a reprint), at p. 186 we find that John Knowlton became a "commoner" in 1641. From the above, it appears that the Ann Tucker of Hingham may not have been Ann Elizabeth Knowlton and that our Knowlton ancestors first appeared in the "New World" ca. 1638-9. Hope that will lead to further dialogue. Regards, Clyde -----Original Message----- From: dana jensen [mailto:danajensen@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:43 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Re: William Knowlton Born 1584. mar. Ann Elizabeth Smith I don't, but would like it if you get it. I have heard that it was Elizabeth Cantize. Do you know for sure the spelling is Orcantiz? Where is she from?-Thanks for any help you can provide.-Dana On Feb 2, 2004, at 10:36 PM, calfindit@pacbell.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton, Smith, Canty, Orcantiz > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/26.37.40.46.122.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Re: Earlier posts of Tod Knowlton and Linda Blevins > > My direct line is William,b 1614. Any information is appreciated. > They died in Ipswich, Ma.. > > Would you have the linage going back from Richard K.and Elizabeth > Orcantiz? I had tried to email Linda Blevins earlier but she changed > address. > > I'm getting the feeling a large family as I have no parents, aunts, > uncles, cousins. Now I may have cousins many times removed. 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