Joan, I checked the list of subscribers (I am the web-mistress) and don't see any obvious UK subscribers. But, please, do not leave us. You are our contact across the water. And we may have some suggestions for you. Would you give us an abbreviated tree of what you have found so far? Long ago I thought that all Knowltons had died out in England after our major USA immigrant had left in 1600s. However, when I was researching my great great uncle, Van Buren Knowlton, who left NY for Australia in the 1860s, I discovered quite a number of UK Knowltons who had recently arrived in Australia. So much for that myth! As far as we know, we Knowltons were ordinary yeomen who took our surname from the village of Knowlton (town on a little hill or knole) in Kent. However, I can see from searching English census records that there have been quite a few Knowltons in Dorset also near the village of Knowlton there (now an archealogical site known as Knowlton Henge). Both villages are extinct. One English Knowlton from Kent became a famous gardener to the wealthy. This is Thomas Knowlton (1691-1781) whose life was written by Blanche Henrey [British Museum, 1896]. Little is known of his early years except that he born in Chislehurst in 1691, the eldest son of William and Ann Knowlton. I rented the LDS films of church baptisms there, and could make out his name but learn nothing additional. He was a famous botanist, designed many gardens, collected and grew plants from around the known (to British) world, was married twice, and had two children. His son Charles became a C of E minister, and HIS son Thomas was also a famous landscape gardener. A garbled version of this is in the beginning of THE HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE KNOWLTONS by Stocking but nothing any further back Wm father of Thos above should be accepted. Offhand, I think it is a mistake to combine the Knowlton and Knowlden names. I have seen Knowlton spelled many ways, including Nolton, Knowlten, Nowlton, Knolton, etc, but not with a D. Generally in English -den means valley or hill while -ton means town or fortified place or farm. Stocking's researchers got into trouble by appropriating Knowlden wills in England for our family Do let us know about your family. Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >From: <KNOWLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <KNOWLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: KNOWLTON-D Digest V04 #66 Is there anyone out there researching the Knowlton/Knowldon in U.K. especially in Kent. Joan Borrowscale< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Sheri, This is so exciting. I was lucky (perhaps) to have been born and reared within 100 miles of where all my Knowlton ancestors (my maternal great-grandmother was a Knowlton) were born and raised. Best wishes, Clyde -----Original Message----- From: Sheri-Family Tree [mailto:nadxeli1@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:40 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KNOWLTON] Indiana KNOWLTON,s 1800 Hi Elizabeth and also Clyde, Thanks! True, Elizabeth, it would have been much cheaper to write and pay a fee to have all this searched and cost me a ton less than the flight from Mexico, 5,000 miles of driving from Dallas, Texas to New York and now in Mississippi before returning to Dallas for the flight back to Mexico but I would have missed so much including the chance to meet some third cousins along the way I didn't know before existed. Not only were the fall colors beautiful in Jennings Co., Indiana but I got to drive by the land that Stephen Knowlton had owned which is still quite rural and I took pictures from one corner that probably still looks a lot like it may have looked when the Stephen Knowlton family lived there. I found an old two story wooden house on the land that was falling down but probably had been built in the late 1800's by those who purchased the land from the estate but it gave me a feel for where my people walked and lived each day. I also talked to a lady who lived next door to the church Eunice and her daughters had joined in 1832 (the church originally was a log building but had been rebuilt). This lady gave me a lot of history about the area and she just happened to have a lot of old pictures of the area with some of the families who my Jesse married into. She made copies of some of these right on the spot. It was worth the flight, gas, hotels and resturants. Of course this was also my vacation but I am already allowing the old ticker to try and figure out a way to do this again next year. There is still much to learn about my family. Sheri Burk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================== Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Jesse KNOWLTON - Hetty DEPUTY I think I have the wunderlust of my KNOWLTON's as I now live and work in Southern Mexico in the sub tropical jungles. I fly back this Thursday. Meanwhile I spoke with my 93 year old Aunt who is the gg-grandaughter of Jesse KNOWLTON b. 1801 and he was living in Indiana until about 1850. He was the son of Stephen KNOWLTON and Eunice SHAW. Aunt Sylvia today shared a lot of history about her Aunts who migrated all the way to California in the Ventura County area. I have a lot of information that I am willing to share with anyone also following this line. Sheri Burk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com/a

----- Original Message ----- From: <KNOWLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <KNOWLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: KNOWLTON-D Digest V04 #66 Is there anyone out there researching the Knowlton/Knowldon in U.K. especially in Kent. Joan Borrowscale

Sheri, This is great news, not only about your Stephen and his descendants with the missing link, but also for others to see how you did the research. Many people nowadays do no original research, just copy trees off the web, and don't know how to do this. For a fee, you could probably have had a search and copying done at the library if you could not have traveled. But you had the fun part. Now, let's put on our thinking caps and solve Ellen's problem: >My father once told me we were related to this person, but as I have never been able to get past my gg-grandtather, Benjamin Knowlton (B. abt 1836 in MA, married Barbara Smith in 1858, Clark Co, IL), I have no idea if this is true < Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Hi Knowlton list, Re: Stephen KNOWLTON; Jesse KNOWLTON, William KNOWLTON In doing my research on my Knowlton family I was stumped as to who Jesse KNOWLTON's father was. All indications showed Stephen KNOWLTON (1036)and Eunice SHAW but because Jesse wasn't in the Stockings book I wanted to find proof. I finally did. I want to share with anyone who it may apply what I found. This last week I traveled to Indianapolis and went to the State Public Library and then drove to Vernon, Jennings County, Indiana and found a probate document that named Jesse S KNOWLTON stated as living in Arkansas among the other sons of Stephen KNOWLTON. The following came out of the list of Court Records, Jennings Co., Indiana 1818-1850 by Holmes Page 171 Complete Record Probate Book 2 1845-1850 Hon. Ezra F. Peapody was Judge of the Court. Page 1. Andrew G Byfield VS Joshua, Ephrain, Jesse and Ransaleur KNOWLTON and Benjamin Pottage. The entry stated that around 1826 Stephen KNOWLTON of Jennings Co. died intestate owning land in section 27, township 5 range 8 and leaving as heirs; the above sons and Hannah late the widow of Alexander Adams dec., Lucinda the wife of George Holmes and Anna Eliza the wife of Samuel Dowden, his daughters. Hannah sold her share of Stephen's real estate to Alexander H. Adams who sold it to Andrew G. Byfield who also had purchased the share of Ann Eliza and Samuel Dowden and the shares of Lucinda and George Holmes. The entry stated that Benjamin Pottage of Indianapolis claimed some right in the shares of the four KNOWLTON sons of which right Andrew G. Byfield had not been fully advised. Ephraim and Joshua KNOWLTON were residents of Shelby Co., JESSE a resident of Arkansas and Ransaleur of Wisconsin Territory. Andrew petitioned the court to set off his three seventh interest in this real estate. John Dixon, Alexander Lowery and James Hammond were appointed to make the partition. Nov 13, 1845. (copied exact) Later while in Vernon, Indiana at the county courthouse I made a copy of the five page document referred to and now have in my file. I want to thank Elizabeth W. Knowlton of this list for the guidance she gave me (I'm a genealolgy novice) in seeking this information and for sending me an article sent to her from the Indiana "Hoosier Journal" by another list member. Sheri Burk< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Hi Elizabeth and also Clyde, Thanks! True, Elizabeth, it would have been much cheaper to write and pay a fee to have all this searched and cost me a ton less than the flight from Mexico, 5,000 miles of driving from Dallas, Texas to New York and now in Mississippi before returning to Dallas for the flight back to Mexico but I would have missed so much including the chance to meet some third cousins along the way I didn't know before existed. Not only were the fall colors beautiful in Jennings Co., Indiana but I got to drive by the land that Stephen Knowlton had owned which is still quite rural and I took pictures from one corner that probably still looks a lot like it may have looked when the Stephen Knowlton family lived there. I found an old two story wooden house on the land that was falling down but probably had been built in the late 1800's by those who purchased the land from the estate but it gave me a feel for where my people walked and lived each day. I also talked to a lady who lived next door to the church Eunice and her daughters had joined in 1832 (the church originally was a log building but had been rebuilt). This lady gave me a lot of history about the area and she just happened to have a lot of old pictures of the area with some of the families who my Jesse married into. She made copies of some of these right on the spot. It was worth the flight, gas, hotels and resturants. Of course this was also my vacation but I am already allowing the old ticker to try and figure out a way to do this again next year. There is still much to learn about my family. Sheri Burk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Sheri, Good digging. Very refreshing to see someone to basic, grass roots research. Rewarding, for among other reasons, because you now have more information than the usual birth, marriage, and death dates. Clyde -----Original Message----- From: Sheri-Family Tree [mailto:nadxeli1@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 3:55 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KNOWLTON] Indiana Knowltons 1800's Hi Knowlton list, Re: Stephen KNOWLTON; Jesse KNOWLTON, William KNOWLTON In doing my research on my Knowlton family I was stumped as to who Jesse KNOWLTON's father was. All indications showed Stephen KNOWLTON (1036)and Eunice SHAW but because Jesse wasn't in the Stockings book I wanted to find proof. I finally did. I want to share with anyone who it may apply what I found. This last week I traveled to Indianapolis and went to the State Public Library and then drove to Vernon, Jennings County, Indiana and found a probate document that named Jesse S KNOWLTON stated as living in Arkansas among the other sons of Stephen KNOWLTON. The following came out of the list of Court Records, Jennings Co., Indiana 1818-1850 by Holmes Page 171 Complete Record Probate Book 2 1845-1850 Hon. Ezra F. Peapody was Judge of the Court. Page 1. Andrew G Byfield VS Joshua, Ephrain, Jesse and Ransaleur KNOWLTON and Benjamin Pottage. The entry stated that around 1826 Stephen KNOWLTON of Jennings Co. died intestate owning land in section 27, township 5 range 8 and leaving as heirs; the above sons and Hannah late the widow of Alexander Adams dec., Lucinda the wife of George Holmes and Anna Eliza the wife of Samuel Dowden, his daughters. Hannah sold her share of Stephen's real estate to Alexander H. Adams who sold it to Andrew G. Byfield who also had purchased the share of Ann Eliza and Samuel Dowden and the shares of Lucinda and George Holmes. The entry stated that Benjamin Pottage of Indianapolis claimed some right in the shares of the four KNOWLTON sons of which right Andrew G. Byfield had not been fully advised. Ephraim and Joshua KNOWLTON were residents of Shelby Co., JESSE a resident of Arkansas and Ransaleur of Wisconsin Territory. Andrew petitioned the court to set off his three seventh interest in this r! eal estate. John Dixon, Alexander Lowery and James Hammond were appointed to make the partition. Nov 13, 1845. (copied exact) Later while in Vernon, Indiana at the county courthouse I made a copy of the five page document referred to and now have in my file. I want to thank Elizabeth W. Knowlton of this list for the guidance she gave me (I'm a genealolgy novice) in seeking this information and for sending me an article sent to her from the Indiana "Hoosier Journal" by another list member. Sheri Burk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ============================== Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Knowlton list, Re: Stephen KNOWLTON; Jesse KNOWLTON, William KNOWLTON In doing my research on my Knowlton family I was stumped as to who Jesse KNOWLTON's father was. All indications showed Stephen KNOWLTON (1036)and Eunice SHAW but because Jesse wasn't in the Stockings book I wanted to find proof. I finally did. I want to share with anyone who it may apply what I found. This last week I traveled to Indianapolis and went to the State Public Library and then drove to Vernon, Jennings County, Indiana and found a probate document that named Jesse S KNOWLTON stated as living in Arkansas among the other sons of Stephen KNOWLTON. The following came out of the list of Court Records, Jennings Co., Indiana 1818-1850 by Holmes Page 171 Complete Record Probate Book 2 1845-1850 Hon. Ezra F. Peapody was Judge of the Court. Page 1. Andrew G Byfield VS Joshua, Ephrain, Jesse and Ransaleur KNOWLTON and Benjamin Pottage. The entry stated that around 1826 Stephen KNOWLTON of Jennings Co. died intestate owning land in section 27, township 5 range 8 and leaving as heirs; the above sons and Hannah late the widow of Alexander Adams dec., Lucinda the wife of George Holmes and Anna Eliza the wife of Samuel Dowden, his daughters. Hannah sold her share of Stephen's real estate to Alexander H. Adams who sold it to Andrew G. Byfield who also had purchased the share of Ann Eliza and Samuel Dowden and the shares of Lucinda and George Holmes. The entry stated that Benjamin Pottage of Indianapolis claimed some right in the shares of the four KNOWLTON sons of which right Andrew G. Byfield had not been fully advised. Ephraim and Joshua KNOWLTON were residents of Shelby Co., JESSE a resident of Arkansas and Ransaleur of Wisconsin Territory. Andrew petitioned the court to set off his three seventh interest in this r! eal estate. John Dixon, Alexander Lowery and James Hammond were appointed to make the partition. Nov 13, 1845. (copied exact) Later while in Vernon, Indiana at the county courthouse I made a copy of the five page document referred to and now have in my file. I want to thank Elizabeth W. Knowlton of this list for the guidance she gave me (I'm a genealolgy novice) in seeking this information and for sending me an article sent to her from the Indiana "Hoosier Journal" by another list member. Sheri Burk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

Ellen, It's all true and posted here in the past many times. I am descended from his brother, Lt. Daniel Knowlton (1838-1825). Clyde -----Original Message----- From: Vonkorn@aol.com [mailto:Vonkorn@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:02 PM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Thomas Knowlton, 1740~1776 In a message dated 10/28/2004 12:49:18 AM Central Standard Time, BasketLady420@aol.com writes: KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he was killed. My father once told me we were related to this person, but as I have never been able to get past my gg-grandtather, Benjamin Knowlton (B. abt 1836 in MA, married Barbara Smith in 1858, Clark Co, IL), I have no idea if this is true or one of those family myths passed down through the years! I would love to find out some day. Ellen ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

In a message dated 10/28/2004 12:49:18 AM Central Standard Time, BasketLady420@aol.com writes: KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he was killed. My father once told me we were related to this person, but as I have never been able to get past my gg-grandtather, Benjamin Knowlton (B. abt 1836 in MA, married Barbara Smith in 1858, Clark Co, IL), I have no idea if this is true or one of those family myths passed down through the years! I would love to find out some day. Ellen

Thanks to list members for sharing responses on our Listserve. Since Joyce is not a relative, it made no difference that we did not reply to the Knowlton bulletin board where she posted her information. However, you-all, do remember that if someone posts to the Knowlton bulletin board (which is always gatewayed to our Knowlton mailing list), you cannot communicate with the person by replying here. It flows one way only: board to list, not list to board. Email me privately if this is not clear. Thanks. On another topic: I FINALLY submitted my small, but select (1530 people) database to Rootsweb Worldconnect, and it has appeared. I am slowly adding sources. Yes, I know that ancestry can "steal" my info and sell it on cds to foolish peoplewho do not know they can "steal" it directly off Rootsweb for free. No living people are listed. I give sources but do not show my notes. I have decided that I am more willing to let ancestry make money off me than I am to forgo meeting sister/fellow researchers or wait forever to have money and time to make my own web pages. Hope it is useful to some of you although it has no more Knowltons than were already on the web. Elizabeth K. Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >From: <BasketLady420@aol.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Thomas Knowlton, 1740~1776 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/300 > > Message Board Post: > > KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental > officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. > Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on > Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut > Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he > was killed. > > > I am not related to this person, I am just passing on this information, > which comes from a book titled "People & Events of the American > Revolution" by Dupuy/Hammerman. R.R. Bowker Company, 1974. pg.354. > Joyce < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

----- Original Message ----- From: <BasketLady420@aol.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Thomas Knowlton, 1740~1776 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/300 > > Message Board Post: > > KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental > officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. > Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on > Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut > Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he > was killed. > > > I am not related to this person, I am just passing on this information, > which comes from a book titled "People & Events of the American > Revolution" by Dupuy/Hammerman. R.R. Bowker Company, 1974. pg.354. > Joyce Thank you Joyce, for this information - interesting, and I will see if I can obain this book from the library. I think there are more Knowlton/Knowlden families in USA than in UK... Does it mention a George Williams who I know was involved in this, and I think was a Drummer Boy. If so I have more information about him. He had a connection with one 'Griffiths' his uncle who may also have been involved. from Joan - Liverpool > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am descended from Thomas's Brother, Lt. Daniel Knowlton (1738-1825). I have much information on this line. A statue of Col. Thomas was erected on the State Capitol grounds in Hartford, CT. Clyde -----Original Message----- From: Joan Borrowscale [mailto:j.borrowscale@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:06 AM To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Thomas Knowlton, 1740~1776 ----- Original Message ----- From: <BasketLady420@aol.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Thomas Knowlton, 1740~1776 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/300 > > Message Board Post: > > KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental > officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. > Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on > Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut > Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he > was killed. > > > I am not related to this person, I am just passing on this information, > which comes from a book titled "People & Events of the American > Revolution" by Dupuy/Hammerman. R.R. Bowker Company, 1974. pg.354. > Joyce Thank you Joyce, for this information - interesting, and I will see if I can obain this book from the library. I think there are more Knowlton/Knowlden families in USA than in UK... Does it mention a George Williams who I know was involved in this, and I think was a Drummer Boy. If so I have more information about him. He had a connection with one 'Griffiths' his uncle who may also have been involved. from Joan - Liverpool > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/300 Message Board Post: KNOWLTON, Thomas. 1740-1776. Militia officer (Capt.), Continental officer (Lt. Col.), farmer, b. West Boxford, Mass. Distinguished himself at Bunker Hill; carried out daring raid on Charleston, Mass., 8 January 1776; leader of a body of Connecticut Rangers at battle of Harlem Heights, N.Y., 16 September 1776, in which he was killed. I am not related to this person, I am just passing on this information, which comes from a book titled "People & Events of the American Revolution" by Dupuy/Hammerman. R.R. Bowker Company, 1974. pg.354. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILSON KNOWLTON NOLTE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/299 Message Board Post: I recently learned Harold Augustus Wilson is my grandfather, and would like to make contact with him if he is still living, or someone from his family. Harold lived in Charleston, South Carolina when my mom was born December 29, 1931. My mother is deceased, and never told us about her father. He may have been born in Philadelphia in about 1911. He is listed as a Painter on her birth certificate. My grandmother's surname was Nolte or Knowlton. She was living with William J. Knowlton in 1930 census in St/ Andrews township of Charleston. Thank you very much. Faye Hopper

I have Knowldon in my family. Matthew Munday mar: Amelia Elizabeth Knowlden c. 1834/5 They lived in Deptford, London. I have an ANN ,KNOWLDEN BORN c. 1820 (sister of the above Amelia) JAMES WILLIAM KNOWLDEN bp. St.Paul, Deptford 17/9/1815 AMELIA ELIZABETH KNOWLDEN St,Paul, Deptford, 31.3.1822 JAMES KNOWLDEN/SOPHIA - 1841 Census Deptford THOMAS KNOWLDEN/RACHEL 1841 Census Deptford Ann Amelia Knowlden Bp 22/71818 St.Alphage, Kent Martha Knowlden mar: Henry Eastcoat Edgerton St.Paul 1/4/1833 Gilbert James Knowlden mar: Ann Elizabeth Callaghan St.Mary, Lewisham 30/8/1812 From - Joan Borrowscale, Liverpool

These people were in Joliet, IL. Related to Harlow Skiel Knowlton--we have someone on the list related to him. Edna is his sister-in-law. Will someone remind us who it is? Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Surnames: Knowlton, Osborn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/298 Message Board Post: I have a photograph taken in about 1940 of Edna Knowlton, of Channahon (Will Co.) IL, which I would like to get back to family members. The photo is of Edna, about age 70, with two children, Sidney and Bill Vaughan, who were about ages 4 and 6. "Taken at shack Channahon". I found Edna in 1900 and 1910 censuses, indicating she was born Jul 1869. Husband was Sheldon K. Knowlton, age 47 in 1910, and they lived in Channahon, IL. Her father was Luke W. Osborn, per 1910 census, as he was living with them. If this is your family, email me at margerice@prodigy.net. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Osborn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/298 Message Board Post: I have a photograph taken in about 1940 of Edna Knowlton, of Channahon (Will Co.) IL, which I would like to get back to family members. The photo is of Edna, about age 70, with two children, Sidney and Bill Vaughan, who were about ages 4 and 6. "Taken at shack Channahon". I found Edna in 1900 and 1910 censuses, indicating she was born Jul 1869. Husband was Sheldon K. Knowlton, age 47 in 1910, and they lived in Channahon, IL. Her father was Luke W. Osborn, per 1910 census, as he was living with them. If this is your family, email me at margerice@prodigy.net.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, McVay, Perry Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/297.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Both Stockings and the Errata are available via many public libraries that offer access to HeritageQuest Online. I have access both through Houston Public Library and the Harris County Public Library.

Hi, Here is a bit of information from Genealogy.com. Hope it helps and not hinders. >:) This is copied as written but doesn't help very much with Daniel Knowlton's children: Lynde in Maine A History of Framington, Massachusetts GenealogyLibrary.com Page 311 KNOWLTON, DANIEL, m. Abigail Almy, Feb. 17, 1743, and had in Fram., ELIAS, b. ab. 1744, and 10 other chil. in Hop. Daniel, the f. was rated in Fram., ab. 1765. He lived near the S. House, No. 4, and d. ab. 1782, '. 65. 2. ELIAS, s. of Daniel (1), m. Elizabeth Jennings, of Holl., and had Children: 1. REBECKAH, b. Oct. 3, 1765, m. Daniel Morse, of Fram., June 29, '90, and went to Holland purchase. D. d. in Holl., 1843; Rebeckah d. in Fram., 1840; 2. ELISHA, b. June 5, 1767, m. (???) Chamberlin, of Dublin, and d. there a few years since; 3. DANIEL, m. (???) Blake, of Holden; 4. LUTHER, m. Prudence Dadmun, Dec. 28, 1800; 5. JESSE; 6. ELIZABETH, d. unm.; 7. GILBERT, moved E. Elias, the f. lived near the South Burial Ground, and d. in Holl., ab. 1787. _________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: [KNOWLTON] More on John Knowlton (409) > Marcia, > > I spent some time studying your email last night. The locations do work. > > Here is my question, however: is there time for the generations of this > new family to be born? > > Say we begin with Daniel Knowlton (181) who was born in 1717. > He married in 1843. (1743) Most of his listed children have no birthdates; > he resided in Framington, MA, so perhaps you can find dates for > the children of Daniel and Abigail Almy Knowlton. Several did > marry Jennings--good sign. > > William (395) is listed first, but he cannot be the firstborn as his > brother Elias (398) was born 1744; and a brother John, 1745. > > You are suggesting William has a son John (409) [my book says > b Feb 28? 1763]. Stocking lists three children for William and > Rachel/Rebecca: > Josiah, Kate, and Oliver, b 1770, 1773, and 1779. He could have had > John in 1763, but he would have been under 20, in fact probably under > 18, not usual for Knowlton men. > > Any thoughts on this? Maybe much more is wrong in this line in Stocking. > > Elizabeth > > > Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > >Now, we have another John, born Feb. 23, 1763 (same date as John #409 > above) > who was the son of #395 William Knowlton and Rachel (Anderson). > This birth is recorded pg. 85 Medway, Mass. vital records (Medway is near > Sherborn, etc.)> >From pg. 46 errata: William and Rachel or Rebecca lived in that part of > town > of Sherborn which was sent apart as Holliston. (This info. puts John in the > correct area to meet and wed Susannah). > On 4/27/00 via the Benetech Knowlton Listserve, Linwood Wickett made a very > strong argument supporting the suggestion that this John (who married > Susannah > Jennings) was the son of #395 William and Rachel and NOT of #183 Jonathan > and Elizabeth. > Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >