Hello Darrell; What year did Douglas Leach write "Flintlock and Tomahawk". It is interesting to me because I am related to Sarah, Robert Jr., and Robert Sr. Leach. Was it written in the time frame of late 1600's? Very curious about all this.... Thanks, Dana On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Sheri-Family Tree wrote: > Hi Darrell, > > Thanks for the information. I will have to look up these two > references when I return to the states in April. Mark Ammerman does > give both sides of the reasons for why there was a war between the > colonist and the Narragansett tribe. But I do want to read up more > than a fictional work even though it is based on probably good > research. So thanks for passing the information on. Your information > has helped me. > > Sheri > > "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> wrote: > Hi, Sheri: > > The standard historical work for "King Philip's War" is Douglas > Leach's "Flintlock and Tomahawk". I own a copy, as well as a reprint > of Benjamin Church's "Diary of King Philip's War". In the index to > neither is there anyone with a surname at all like "Knowlton". This is > not surprising, even if a Knowlton did participate. > > One online site says John KNOWLTON (Stocking #5??) (son of John, > grandson of Capt. William) was "drafted into the Narragansett Winter > Campaign (Major Samuel Appleton’s Company) on 11/30/1675". The Great > Swamp Fight, aptly termed a massacre because of the burning of the > wigwams with women and children inside (although it is not as cut and > dried as it sounds), occurred December 19, 1675, and Appleton's > Company participated. Leach, pgs. 126-135, has a very readable > account. > > Regardless of whether the English actions were justified, it must be > understood that this was genuinely a battle, not an unprovoked assault > on relatively defenseless civilians like Custer at Sand Creek or > Wounded Knee (recalled from hazy memory, sorry). Casualties were > extremely high. "Of the company commanders, seven out of fourteen were > killed or mortally wounded in the battle ..." (Leach, pg. 132; Church, > pg. 32). > > Hope this is of some value. > > Darrell > > > Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com > a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois > http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Darrell, Thanks for the information. I will have to look up these two references when I return to the states in April. Mark Ammerman does give both sides of the reasons for why there was a war between the colonist and the Narragansett tribe. But I do want to read up more than a fictional work even though it is based on probably good research. So thanks for passing the information on. Your information has helped me. Sheri "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> wrote: Hi, Sheri: The standard historical work for "King Philip's War" is Douglas Leach's "Flintlock and Tomahawk". I own a copy, as well as a reprint of Benjamin Church's "Diary of King Philip's War". In the index to neither is there anyone with a surname at all like "Knowlton". This is not surprising, even if a Knowlton did participate. One online site says John KNOWLTON (Stocking #5??) (son of John, grandson of Capt. William) was "drafted into the Narragansett Winter Campaign (Major Samuel Appleton�s Company) on 11/30/1675". The Great Swamp Fight, aptly termed a massacre because of the burning of the wigwams with women and children inside (although it is not as cut and dried as it sounds), occurred December 19, 1675, and Appleton's Company participated. Leach, pgs. 126-135, has a very readable account. Regardless of whether the English actions were justified, it must be understood that this was genuinely a battle, not an unprovoked assault on relatively defenseless civilians like Custer at Sand Creek or Wounded Knee (recalled from hazy memory, sorry). Casualties were extremely high. "Of the company commanders, seven out of fourteen were killed or mortally wounded in the battle ..." (Leach, pg. 132; Church, pg. 32). Hope this is of some value. Darrell Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo!

At 04:24 AM 1/17/2005, Sheri-Family Tree wrote: >Hi Elizabeth, > >I have been out back in the jungle lately and haven't had time to work much on genealogy but have found the bits on the Native American massacre interesting. Weren't some of our Knowltons in one of the major battles? > >I found in my personal library a Historical Fiction called "The Ransom" by Mark Ammerman who was the grandson by many generations of Roger Williams who worked with the Narragansett people. Most of his work was taken from journals, diarias and pamphlets etc of the 17th century New England colonists. Most of his characters were taken from real people. I found this book an interesting read taken from the side of the Narragansetts. > >Is there any evidence that any of our Knowltons were a part of this massacre? > >Sheri Burk Hi, Sheri: The standard historical work for "King Philip's War" is Douglas Leach's "Flintlock and Tomahawk". I own a copy, as well as a reprint of Benjamin Church's "Diary of King Philip's War". In the index to neither is there anyone with a surname at all like "Knowlton". This is not surprising, even if a Knowlton did participate. One online site says John KNOWLTON (Stocking #5??) (son of John, grandson of Capt. William) was "drafted into the Narragansett Winter Campaign (Major Samuel Appleton�s Company) on 11/30/1675". The Great Swamp Fight, aptly termed a massacre because of the burning of the wigwams with women and children inside (although it is not as cut and dried as it sounds), occurred December 19, 1675, and Appleton's Company participated. Leach, pgs. 126-135, has a very readable account. Regardless of whether the English actions were justified, it must be understood that this was genuinely a battle, not an unprovoked assault on relatively defenseless civilians like Custer at Sand Creek or Wounded Knee (recalled from hazy memory, sorry). Casualties were extremely high. "Of the company commanders, seven out of fourteen were killed or mortally wounded in the battle ..." (Leach, pg. 132; Church, pg. 32). Hope this is of some value. Darrell Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

Hi Elizabeth, I have been out back in the jungle lately and haven't had time to work much on genealogy but have found the bits on the Native American massacre interesting. Weren't some of our Knowltons in one of the major battles? I found in my personal library a Historical Fiction called "The Ransom" by Mark Ammerman who was the grandson by many generations of Roger Williams who worked with the Narragansett people. Most of his work was taken from journals, diarias and pamphlets etc of the 17th century New England colonists. Most of his characters were taken from real people. I found this book an interesting read taken from the side of the Narragansetts. Is there any evidence that any of our Knowltons were a part of this massacre? Sheri Burk >"In a later raid on an Indian camp near Pound Ridge >in Westchester, Underhill [Indian fighter] and the >Anglo-Dutch force were said to have slaughtered >somewhere between five hundred and seven hundred more >[Indians] with a loss of only fifteen wounded." > >The way the book is set up, there are 21 references cited >for this section of 4 pages, but you cannot tell (maybe) without >looking up each title which reference is for which event or >fact. GOTHAM is in nearly any large library nowadays, >so you could look at the 21 citations there. If this is impossible >and you really need them, email me privately and I will >photocopy all concerned and mail them to you. > > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

23 4 Knowlton Jas. M 26 S Ireland R.C. Labourer Found on 1851 Canadian census, Oakland township, Brant (Co?), Ontario, pg 23 This is part of my effort to document Knowltons born in Ireland at any time. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Well, the Knowltons came from Kent or Hampshire to America ca 1630s - 1640s, so there is nothing to stop this being the same part of the family if those who remained in UK moved into London 150 years later. No point guessing. You are doing very well to get back so far with the church records. Keep it up. Since I have never seen the name spelled that way (with a D) in USA and since the Kent Knowltons in the 1600s - 1800s spelled it Knowlton, I will be curious to see if you find variations in your family spelling. Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >I have been getting more information about my KNOWLDEN line in UK. A marriage of Gilbert James Knowlden who married Ann Elizabeth Callaghan 1812 in London and recently the baptism of the above Gilbert born 1786 - a son of James Knowlden/Martha.... again, born London....... I think that the Knowldens came from the London area, whereas the Knowltons came from further outside i.e., Hampshire... Are there any Gilberts in USA... Joan Borrowscale, Liverpool UK< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Hello Elizabeth, May I ask if I missed the sources for these accounts - because I sure would like said sources. Appreciatively, marilyn< I assume you mean for the Westchester county massacre because the other was from Clyde. I read it in a history of Westchester county and had to put it down after reading that--was in a library and did not write down a source, just have never been able to forget it. Ephraim Knowlton (24A) arrive ca 1700. In answer to your query, I went to GOTHAM, which I own, by Edwin G Burrows and Mike Wallace, winner of Pulitzer prize and an awfully good read (1382 pgs) with References, Bibliography, and Index. Since Westchester is not its focus, this is all it said, pg 39, "winter of 1643-44," won't type out the atrocities, but it ends: "In a later raid on an Indian camp near Pound Ridge in Westchester, Underhill [Indian fighter] and the Anglo-Dutch force were said to have slaughtered somewhere between five hundred and seven hundred more [Indians] with a loss of only fifteen wounded." The way the book is set up, there are 21 references cited for this section of 4 pages, but you cannot tell (maybe) without looking up each title which reference is for which event or fact. GOTHAM is in nearly any large library nowadays, so you could look at the 21 citations there. If this is impossible and you really need them, email me privately and I will photocopy all concerned and mail them to you. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Thank you Elizabeth, I will try to get GOTHAM. I will be anxious also to see if my Dingman's are mentioned. Appreciatively, marilyn Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: >Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > > >>Hello Elizabeth, >> >> >May I ask if I missed the sources for these accounts - because I sure >would like said sources. >Appreciatively, >marilyn< > >I assume you mean for the Westchester county massacre >because the other was from Clyde. > >I read it in a history of Westchester county and had to put >it down after reading that--was in a library and did not >write down a source, just have never been able to forget >it. Ephraim Knowlton (24A) arrive ca 1700. > >In answer to your query, I went to GOTHAM, which I own, >by Edwin G Burrows and Mike Wallace, winner of >Pulitzer prize and an awfully good read (1382 pgs) >with References, Bibliography, and Index. Since >Westchester is not its focus, this is all it said, pg 39, >"winter of 1643-44," won't type out the atrocities, >but it ends: > >"In a later raid on an Indian camp near Pound Ridge >in Westchester, Underhill [Indian fighter] and the >Anglo-Dutch force were said to have slaughtered >somewhere between five hundred and seven hundred more >[Indians] with a loss of only fifteen wounded." > >The way the book is set up, there are 21 references cited >for this section of 4 pages, but you cannot tell (maybe) without >looking up each title which reference is for which event or >fact. GOTHAM is in nearly any large library nowadays, >so you could look at the 21 citations there. If this is impossible >and you really need them, email me privately and I will >photocopy all concerned and mail them to you. > > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

Does anyone have a copy of the self-published family genealogy book put together by John C. Knowlton of Anoka, MN about ten years ago? Or does anyone know where I could find it? Kari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Flanders Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/305 Message Board Post: From the Chicago Tribune, January 30, 1879: Judge James H. Knowlton A large number of lawyers and citizens generally will be pained to learn of the death of James H. Knowlton, so well known as a lawyer, Abolitionist, and Spiritualist, which took place yesterday morning. He was born Feb. 20, 1814, at Canandaigua, N.Y., the son of Ephraim B. Knowlton. When he was 5 his family removed to Chatauqua. He first studied medicine with Dr. Bullard, but becoming dissatisfied with it, gave it up, and began reading law with Judge Osborn. In 1843, he moved to Janesville, Rock County, Wis., with his father. The following year he went to New York and married at Chatauqua Agnes B. Flanders. They lived in Janesville for four years, and then removed to Shullsberg in Lafayette County, Wis, where they spent ten years. During that time Mr. Knowlton served two terms as County Judge. He then returned to Janesville and served in the legislature for five years, representing Lafayette and Rock Counties. during these five years he was one of the prime movers in the abo! lition of capital punishment in the state, and was also the person who exposed and made public the LaCrosse railroad bonds frauds. He was one of the counsel for Judge Levi Hubbel in his impeachment trial, and also the leading counsel for Barstow in his controversy with Bashford. He came to Chicago in 1852 and first associated himself with E.S. Smith and afterwards with Egbert Jamieson and Frank Scales. The principal murder case with which he was connected here was that of Perteet, he having defended him at the time of his trial in 1872. He died at a quarter of ten o'clock yesterday morning of disease of the kidneys with which he had been afflicted for four years past. The funeral services, at the request of Mrs. Knowlton, will be conducted by Gen. I.L. Stiles and will take place at No. 291 West Madison Street at 9 o'clock this morning. The remains will be taken to Middleton, Wis., where his mother and father were buried. --------------------------------------------------------------- The Barstow/Bashford controversy was a WI gubernatorial election that turned into a mess ala the 2000 presidential election. Mr. Knowlton was able to meet with the candidates behind closed doors and helped them settle the dispute. He then spoke to the angry crowds gathered in the streets of Madison, WI and helped prevent the riot that was brewing. I think it was 1856.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Dixon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/304 Message Board Post: I am looking for any info on Arther Frank Knowlton born in Canada in 1898. I am also looking for info on Ashley or Ashton Dixon this is her married name I do not know her maiden name she was born in May 1865 in N.C . Any info would be very helpful. Thank you.

At 10:20 AM 1/14/2005, Joan Borrowscale wrote: > Hello Elizabeth - I have read your account of the Narragansett Indians..... above > Does anything change these days !!!!! Hi, Joan: If you are talking about terrorists, no. If you are talking about U.S. or U.K. troops, you better believe it. As a draftee in 1969, heading for Vietnam, I was surprised at the amount of effort the Army put into training us what NOT to do. Killing or torturing prisoners or unarmed civilians was strictly forbidden, and we were *trained* to understand that to obey a command from a superior to do such was to break the law and be personally subject to criminal charges, right along with that superior. And such charges *were* brought, such as against Lt. Calley and his unit for the massacre at Mi Lai, although even a casual observer would admit that incidents were too often swept under the rug. Now days, even psychological torture is actively prohibited. I can't imagine *any* of the major combatants in World War II even blinking twice at what went on at Abu Ghraib Prison. Today that gets you a court martial. I'm not sure the line has been prudently drawn; but I am sure glad we have one. Darrell former Sergeant, US Army, Vietnam - Bronze Star, Good Conduct uncle of SP4 Weston Goldsmith, 278th RCT, FOB Cobra N.E. of Baghdad Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: [KNOWLTON] War against the Narragansett Indians >I was rereading today Clyde's post of last November. > The description of the English settlers burning alive the > Indian children, women, and disabled: "They were in > much doubt," it says of the settlers. I hope so. > > There is an almost identical account of the burning of > an Indian village in Westchester co., NY, where Ephraim > Knowlton (1676) immigrated. The account there > was that after brush was piled up and the fire set, > there was not a single sound as the entire village > perished inside their wigwams. > > How sure we always are that what we choose to > do to other people is the right way. > > Elizabeth > > Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >>Meanwhile, the English had set fire to the wigwams, some 600 in number, > and flames swept through the crowded fort. The "shrieks and cries of the > women and children, the yelling of the warriors, exhibited a most > horrible and appalling scene, so that it greatly moved some of the > soldiers. They were in much doubt and they afterwards seriously inquired > whether burning their enemies alive could be consistent with humanity > and the benevolent principle of the gospel," says one early account. > > The retreating Indians were driven from the woods about the fort, > leaving the English a complete, though costly, victory. They had lost > five captains and 20 men and had some 150 wounded that must be carried > back to a house some ten miles distant. To the terrors of the battle and > fire were added the bitter cold and blinding snow of a New England > blizzard through which the English toiled back to Cocumcussa. The > hardships of that march took a toll of 30 or 40 more lives. The Indians > reported a loss of 40 fighting men and one sachem killed and some 300 > old men, women and children burned alive in the wigwams. > < > > > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton Hello Elizabeth - I have read your account of the Narragansett Indians..... above Does anything change these days !!!!! I have been getting more information about my KNOWLDEN line in UK. A marriage of Gilbert James Knowlden who married Ann Elizabeth Callaghan 1812 in London and recently the baptism of the above Gilbert born 1786 - a son of James Knowlden/Martha.... again, born London....... I think that the Knowldens came from the London area, whereas the Knowltons came from further outside i.e., Hampshire... Are there any Gilberts in USA... Joan Borrowscale, Liverpool UK > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

At 11:27 PM 1/13/2005, Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: >I was rereading today Clyde's post of last November. >The description of the English settlers burning alive the >Indian children, women, and disabled: "They were in >much doubt," it says of the settlers. I hope so. > >There is an almost identical account of the burning of >an Indian village in Westchester co., NY, where Ephraim >Knowlton (1676) immigrated. The account there >was that after brush was piled up and the fire set, >there was not a single sound as the entire village >perished inside their wigwams. > >How sure we always are that what we choose to >do to other people is the right way. > >Elizabeth Hi, Elizabeth: I think it is to the credit of the soldiers involved that there WAS "much doubt", and your last paragraph is actually contradicted by the story. Keep in mind that these were not professional soldiers, they were militia; mostly farmers. They had watched a distressingly large percentage of their comrades in arms freeze to death on what was later celebrated in New England lore as "The Hungry March". Essentially, those involved considered themselves on a near-suicide mission. They were engaged in a war that was widely seen, with a great deal of reason, as a battle to the death between evenly matched opponents that gave no quarter. There was hardly a family that lived further than twenty miles from Boston that not had lost at least one member to an Indian raid. Even so, and for exactly the right reasons, they had doubts -- as well they should have. They did not excuse themselves, nor should we excuse them. They did not question whether their actions were likely to prolong the war, or defend their actions because they thought them likely to shorten the war. Instead, the records says, "... they afterwards seriously inquired whether burning their enemies alive could be consistent with humanity and the benevolent principle of the gospel ..." I am descended from one of the "Hungry Marchers", as well as many others who were affected by King Philip's War. I am also descended from Native Americans. It is not a matter of "taking sides", but rather of letting the record speak, and be understood, for what it actually says. Darrell Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

Elizabeth no nobody ever did answer that so can you tell what might be correct then. Steve. Will give you my line 1 generation at a time tomorrow.

Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >From: Sschifani@aol.com To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <158.432e812a.2ec0de05@aol.com> Subject: John Knowlton Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Am direct descendant of John born abt 1673 son of Samuel Knowlton, and Johns Son Thomas Knowlton who married Amy Chase does anyone know who this Johns Wife was ? Thanks Steve. < Steve Did anyone answer this? I ask because it looks as if you are using Stocking without the Errata. Thomas (169) b Jan 6, 1708, m Amy Chase, was supposed to be the son of John (64), but the parents of this person are unknown. Furthermore, the other children assigned to John (64) have all been moved to other parents: Margaret (168) is supposed to be the child of William (10) and one of his wives. Ebenezer (170) is supposed to be the son of Ebenezer (27) Benjamin (171) is supposed to really be (159) son of Benjamin (41D) Miriam (172) is (41J) dau of John (11). Now how about Clyde or Marcia or ?? chiming in with some real records? The above is all from Stocking and the Errata. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

I was rereading today Clyde's post of last November. The description of the English settlers burning alive the Indian children, women, and disabled: "They were in much doubt," it says of the settlers. I hope so. There is an almost identical account of the burning of an Indian village in Westchester co., NY, where Ephraim Knowlton (1676) immigrated. The account there was that after brush was piled up and the fire set, there was not a single sound as the entire village perished inside their wigwams. How sure we always are that what we choose to do to other people is the right way. Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Meanwhile, the English had set fire to the wigwams, some 600 in number, and flames swept through the crowded fort. The "shrieks and cries of the women and children, the yelling of the warriors, exhibited a most horrible and appalling scene, so that it greatly moved some of the soldiers. They were in much doubt and they afterwards seriously inquired whether burning their enemies alive could be consistent with humanity and the benevolent principle of the gospel," says one early account. The retreating Indians were driven from the woods about the fort, leaving the English a complete, though costly, victory. They had lost five captains and 20 men and had some 150 wounded that must be carried back to a house some ten miles distant. To the terrors of the battle and fire were added the bitter cold and blinding snow of a New England blizzard through which the English toiled back to Cocumcussa. The hardships of that march took a toll of 30 or 40 more lives. The Indians reported a loss of 40 fighting men and one sachem killed and some 300 old men, women and children burned alive in the wigwams. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Hello Elizabeth, May I ask if I missed the sources for these accounts - because I sure would like said sources. Appreciatively, marilyn Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: >I was rereading today Clyde's post of last November. >The description of the English settlers burning alive the >Indian children, women, and disabled: "They were in >much doubt," it says of the settlers. I hope so. > >There is an almost identical account of the burning of >an Indian village in Westchester co., NY, where Ephraim >Knowlton (1676) immigrated. The account there >was that after brush was piled up and the fire set, >there was not a single sound as the entire village >perished inside their wigwams. > >How sure we always are that what we choose to >do to other people is the right way. > >Elizabeth > >Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > > >>Meanwhile, the English had set fire to the wigwams, some 600 in number, >> >> >and flames swept through the crowded fort. The "shrieks and cries of the >women and children, the yelling of the warriors, exhibited a most >horrible and appalling scene, so that it greatly moved some of the >soldiers. They were in much doubt and they afterwards seriously inquired >whether burning their enemies alive could be consistent with humanity >and the benevolent principle of the gospel," says one early account. > >The retreating Indians were driven from the woods about the fort, >leaving the English a complete, though costly, victory. They had lost >five captains and 20 men and had some 150 wounded that must be carried >back to a house some ten miles distant. To the terrors of the battle and >fire were added the bitter cold and blinding snow of a New England >blizzard through which the English toiled back to Cocumcussa. The >hardships of that march took a toll of 30 or 40 more lives. The Indians >reported a loss of 40 fighting men and one sachem killed and some 300 >old men, women and children burned alive in the wigwams. >< > > > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >

Would you be interested in a gedcom from Charles B. KNOWLTON down to me? Bruce > > I am looking for any information on Charles B. KNOWLTON, born in 1848 in > Wisconsin, he married Mary TURNER in 1871, they had 4 children. I know > that > he had a sister named Agnes KNOWLTON, born about 1857. > Thank You, > Bruce Kemp< -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12-Jan-05

Hi Bruce. the question of Bennie's (aka Hiram Benjamin) identity seems cleared up, but I may not have been clear about Thomas in my original email to you on Jan 6th. Thomas Ephraim is the son of Hiram Baker Knowlton. That makes him a cousin to your great-grandfather, Charles. Charles' father Aratus was Hiram's brother. Both were sons of Ephraim Hiram Baker Knowlton- henceforth referred to as EHB (by me anyway). Kari