Very amusing, Carlisle, as I just found your list as posted a while ago in the Knowlton archives while I was doing a google search. I will get back to you with this. Lyman Knowlton, the spinner, do you have him on the 1855 census with county of birth? Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >For anyone who might care to have it, I have a list of 40+ persons, KNOWLTONs and others, appearing in KNOWLTON households in the federal and NY state censuses for Erie County, NY, 1850, 1855, and 1860, with miscellaneous details, usually including place of birth, and/or previous residence --- done some years ago in connection with other research --- no special attention either way to possible Westchester County, NY origins. The list is in Excel spreadsheet format and would be far better sent as such. Carlisle Knowlton< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Thank you, Marilyn, I do have the census work done and know that the old man is Daniel Knowlton (458) living in the household of his son Thomas. He dies in 1838 according to the journal of Richard Woolsey. I have seen Voughts in the area but am not quite following your two snippets. Where does Leander come in? If I am understanding what you say, your Leander/Henry line was traced from western NY direct to NH. Were there two Leanders, one in Orange county? I have a listing of children for Thomas (who married two Earl sisters) but have no idea of the other siblings of Thomas. Thanks, Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Elizabeth, I was cleaning up old e-mails and ran across this one that had been sent to me by a Orange and Westchester County researcher who had been a great help to me on my Voughts. He knew about my great grandmother Vought being a daughter of Leander Knowlton and of my search for Leander Knowlton's father Henry Knowlton. I had no need to follow up on this because my Knowlton's ended up in western NY after migrating from NH. Knowing you Elizabeth, you probably already have the 1830 census for Thomas Knowlton. Thought I'd send it on just in case you did not. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- To: <mmadden@northland.lib.mi.us> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Knowlton in 1830 census. > You probably have seen this already but should be worth consideration as a > possble connection to Leander, as there are not many Knowltons floating > around in Orange Co. back then. Possible Thomas Knowlton is the 80-90 and > could be father to Henry 50-60 and Leander is one of the kids, though age > might be off. I will poke around at this. Of course it could be coincidence > or an uncle..... > > There is a Thomas Knowlton listed in the 1830 US census, Town of Cornwall, > Orange Co., NY, living between Luke Mandigo and Beverly Garrison, Hiram > Taylor, which should be the area between Ft. Montgomery and Highland Union > cemetery; 1male 5-10, 1male 20-30, 1male 50-60, 1male 80-90, 1fem 10-15, 1fem > 50-60. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

I'm interested in Knowltons that imigrated from NY to Ohio. My line Sherman Knowlton born in NY abt.1835 May Lavina Knowlton born in Ohio abt. 1869 Janice Charlotte Simmons born in Ohio in 1901 Clarence Zieske born in Ohio in 1921 Thanks, Andrea ----- Original Message ----- From: "ck" <carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Knowltons up the Hudson River 18th c > > > For anyone who might care to have it, I have a list of 40+ persons, > KNOWLTONs and others, appearing in KNOWLTON households in the federal and NY > state censuses for Erie County, NY, 1850, 1855, and 1860, with miscellaneous > details, usually including place of birth, and/or previous residence --- > done some years ago in connection with other research --- no special > attention either way to possible Westchester County, NY origins. > > The list is in Excel spreadsheet format and would be far better sent as > such. > > Carlisle Knowlton > > carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

For anyone who might care to have it, I have a list of 40+ persons, KNOWLTONs and others, appearing in KNOWLTON households in the federal and NY state censuses for Erie County, NY, 1850, 1855, and 1860, with miscellaneous details, usually including place of birth, and/or previous residence --- done some years ago in connection with other research --- no special attention either way to possible Westchester County, NY origins. The list is in Excel spreadsheet format and would be far better sent as such. Carlisle Knowlton carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net

Elizabeth, I was cleaning up old e-mails and ran across this one that had been sent to me by a Orange and Westchester County researcher who had been a great help to me on my Voughts. He knew about my great grandmother Vought being a daughter of Leander Knowlton and of my search for Leander Knowlton's father Henry Knowlton. I had no need to follow up on this because my Knowlton's ended up in western NY after migrating from NH. Knowing you Elizabeth, you probably already have the 1830 census for Thomas Knowlton. Thought I'd send it on just in case you did not. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- To: <mmadden@northland.lib.mi.us> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Knowlton in 1830 census. > You probably have seen this already but should be worth consideration as a > possble connection to Leander, as there are not many Knowltons floating > around in Orange Co. back then. Possible Thomas Knowlton is the 80-90 and > could be father to Henry 50-60 and Leander is one of the kids, though age > might be off. I will poke around at this. Of course it could be coincidence > or an uncle..... > > There is a Thomas Knowlton listed in the 1830 US census, Town of Cornwall, > Orange Co., NY, living between Luke Mandigo and Beverly Garrison, Hiram > Taylor, which should be the area between Ft. Montgomery and Highland Union > cemetery; 1male 5-10, 1male 20-30, 1male 50-60, 1male 80-90, 1fem 10-15, 1fem > 50-60. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Knowltons up the Hudson River 18th c > For the past month I have been working on the Knowltons > who left the lower Hudson in the second half of the 18th > century and migrated to Albany, Saratoga, and Herkimer Cos. > and then west to Schenectady, Onandaga, Chautauqua, > Cattaugarus, and others, and finally west to Wisconsin and > Illinois (some of them) in the first half of the 19th century. > They all seem to descend from one Ephraim Knowlton > (b ca 1676) who left Ipswich area for Westchester Co., > and his sons who moved into Ulster, and Orange Cos., > NY, ca 1700 - 1750. > > My recollection is that most people on this list descend > from those who stayed longer in Massachusetts and > then migrated to Maine, NH, VT, and CT, not passing > into NY until about 1800 or later. > > However, if you do descend from this early NY branch, > would you remind me or contact me so we can share > our research? > > I am still waiting on the researcher who apparently saw > an old Bible years ago that documented the marriage > of Thomas Knowlton of Ulster Co. to one Ann Clugstone > b ca 1720-1725. Since this marriage must have taken > place ca 1750 and there were so few Knowltons in the > area, I am thinking that these must be Thomas 229A & > Anna mentioned on the Bible record of their son Thomas > in Canada many years later. But we will have to see. > Apparently the researcher works in a chicken house at > night and is fairly incommunicado. > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Elizabeth Knowlton, I saw your posting. I am descended from Elijah Knowlton (1750-55 approx. - 1819 approx.). He showed up in North Hero Grand Isle Co. VT about 1790 and married twice. His second wife was Mary Hamlin, daughter of Barnabas, whose family moved from Barnstable, MA to western VT. I have not been able to trace Elijah's parents, however, I did find an Elijah who served with an Ephraim in an Albany regiment in the Revolution. I also have information on four of his children. I would like to hear from you. Cathy Hollister

For the past month I have been working on the Knowltons who left the lower Hudson in the second half of the 18th century and migrated to Albany, Saratoga, and Herkimer Cos. and then west to Schenectady, Onandaga, Chautauqua, Cattaugarus, and others, and finally west to Wisconsin and Illinois (some of them) in the first half of the 19th century. They all seem to descend from one Ephraim Knowlton (b ca 1676) who left Ipswich area for Westchester Co., and his sons who moved into Ulster, and Orange Cos., NY, ca 1700 - 1750. My recollection is that most people on this list descend from those who stayed longer in Massachusetts and then migrated to Maine, NH, VT, and CT, not passing into NY until about 1800 or later. However, if you do descend from this early NY branch, would you remind me or contact me so we can share our research? I am still waiting on the researcher who apparently saw an old Bible years ago that documented the marriage of Thomas Knowlton of Ulster Co. to one Ann Clugstone b ca 1720-1725. Since this marriage must have taken place ca 1750 and there were so few Knowltons in the area, I am thinking that these must be Thomas 229A & Anna mentioned on the Bible record of their son Thomas in Canada many years later. But we will have to see. Apparently the researcher works in a chicken house at night and is fairly incommunicado. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/309.1 Message Board Post: Anne, You don't tell us what you want to know and what you have already tried. Have you found Leonard on the SSDI? If you know where he lived as a boy, we could find him on the census because the name is uncommon. But tell us what you want to know?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/303.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank You.

Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >From: Maclark39@aol.com To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <144.3e44c06c.2f2e593d@aol.com> Subject: [KNOWLTON] Thomas and Martha Knowlton MI 1820 I believe your Thomas is #589 (Stocking) son of of #270 Capt. Thomas and Elizabeth (Bachelor) pg. 125 Stocking.< Marcia, Remember Chris is not going to see this message unless you post it on the Knowlton message board. Suggest he join this list too! Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pike and Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/309 Message Board Post: Hello Knowltons all! I am looking for information about my cousin, Leonard Knowlton. He was probably born in the early 1900s, as his wife was born in 1916. The day of his birth was 19 June. He married Alice May Pike on 14 May - year unknown but I'd guess in the 1940s, and he died 9 April 1953 after having a motorcycle accident. He may be buried in the Geneva-Waterloo area of New York because that is where his wife lived until she died in 1982. He had been in the army and was stationed in Florida, where they had a daughter, Penelope, who apparently died shortly after birth, before 1953. Thank you for your help!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Haskins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/307.1.1 Message Board Post: Many thanks for this. It was just what I was looking for. Chris

I believe your Thomas is #589 (Stocking) son of of #270 Capt. Thomas and Elizabeth (Bachelor) pg. 125 Stocking. Birth: Thomas Knowlton, s. Capt. Thomas and Elisabeth,Nov 17, 1784. Shrewsbury, Mass vital records pg 67. 1st marriage: Thomas Knowlton, Jr. and Rebecka (Whiting), Nov 1, 1809 Shrewsbury (V.R. pg 182 (K)) their dau.: M.int.: Rebecca W. Knowlton of Boston and Dr. Adolphus Brigham, int. May 26, 1832 (Shrewsbury, Ma. V.R. pg 182 (K)) there were three Brigham children. their dau. Nancy m.: Nancy F. Knowlton and Asa Davis of Oswego, N.Y., Nov 11, 1836. Shrewsbury V.R. pg 181 (K) According to Stocking Rebecca d. May 17, 1812. Thomas m. 2d. Martha Giles, Dec. 11, 1817, and d. in Detroit, Mich. Aug 1832. Their children: from pg 247 Stocking : #1555 Harriet A. Knowlton and John Hatton #1556 Calvin b. 1820 died young #1557 ThomasW. 1823 - 1854 from pg 248 kea: #1558 George L. and Olive Haskins (or Haskell), #1558 Charles L. b. 1832 - died young. Of course, one must use the Stocking information cautiously.. - - - - The father Thomas #270 according to Stocking was the son of #129 Ezekiel and Susannah (Morgan) Birth: Thomas Knowlton, s. Dea. Ezekiel and Susannah, April 27, 1750. Shrewsbury, Ma. V.R. pg 67. Hope this helps. Marcia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON GILES BATCHELDER HASKINS WHITNEY HATTON SLADE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/307.1 Message Board Post: Chris, This information is from Chas Stocking's HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE KNOWLTONS . . .. 1897. Thomas is # 589 in that book, and George L. is # 1558 who married Olive Haskins. Martha's last name was Giles. They married Dec 11, 1817, so she was the mother of Geo L, but she was Thomas' second wife. Thomas died Aug 1832 in Detroit. Thomas' parents were Thomas (270) and Elizabeth Batchelder Knowlton of Shrewsbury, MA (1800 & 1810 census). He served as selectman of Shrewsbury 21 times and also in the Am Rev, ending up a capt of the "6th co, Worcester County Regt." He died Aug 22, 1829. Thomas (589) first married Rebeca Whitney Nov 1809, perhaps in MA. They had two girls in 1810 and 1812 before she died May 17, 1812. Children by Martha Giles were: Harriet A, b Sep 3, 1818, m John Hatton Aug 17, 1841, then m second Robert Slade, bearing 14 children; Calvin, 1820 died young; Thomas W., May 1, 1823, d Dec 31, 1854; Geo L., b Oct 1, 1824; and Charles L., b 1832, died y. Always use the 1903 ERRATA AND ADDENDA to the above volume because it is full of errors. No sources are given, so you must assemble proofs yourself.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Haskin, Haskins, Hutton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/307 Message Board Post: I have found a Thomas Knowlton b abt 1780 on the census in 1820 in Monroe, MI Territitory and in 1830 in Detroit, Wayne Co, MI. I think Thomas m Martha ? b abt 1790 VT. So far I have identifed 2 possible children: -Harrietta (Harriet, Hattie?) Knowlton b abt 1818 Monroe, MI m ? Hutton . She d 1871 Iosco Co MI. -George Lafayette Knowlton b abt 1825 MI m Olive M Haskins in 1847 in Ottawa Co, OH. lived on Catawba Island near Port Clinton in 1870. - an unkown son b abt 1822 in MI (estimated from 1830 census) Does anyone know who Thomas's parents are or Martha's last name? I can provide more info on my research on the family of George and Olive to anyone interested. I am not directly related, and I am primarily a Haskins researcher. Chris

Daniel Knowlton born in Ulster co, Marlborough, NY, to Thomas Knowlton and Anna, ca 1750. He is not followed down in Stocking. He remained in area and married Jemima ca 1773 about the time his sister Jerusha Knowlton m John Duffield in Marl- borough Presb church Dec 1773. However, I have no marriage for him. Since Daniel was locked up temporarily during Rev and did not serve, as his brothers did, and later sold land to Quakers and manumitted his slave before required, I believe he must have had religious scruples. In 1800 he is living in Cheesecoches, Orange co, with wife, two sons and two daughters. His son Thomas is probably the 16-26 male. In 1810 Thomas has married Ann or Nancy Earl, daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Bull Earl, and is living in Munroe or Monroe, Orange Co., with 4 sons and 2 daughters. His name looks like Knotson. In 1820 Thomas "Knolton" is living in Cornwall, Orange Co., with wife, 4 sons 16 or less, and 5 other females under 45. He and one son are listed as being manufacturers rather than farmers. In 1830 Thomas is still in Cornwall with his wife, two young men, a young woman, and the ancient Daniel, aged 80-90. A notice on the Orange county rootsweb message board indicates that the family went to Michigan after 1845, but I have not been able to find them in Orange co in 1840. Also, the exact list of Thomas and Nancy's children: Robert, Arena, Daniel, John, Jemima, Mary, Elizabeth, and Prosper, is reproduced on World connect in several places as being the children of Rachel Earl and Prosper Payne. Any feedback on this? Does anyone have access to the Peter Earl estate papers that list Nancy E. Knowlton before she dies? Or has she already died, and PE refers to her surviving children? At the time of his probate (1819?) or is it a will? is Nancy dead and Sarah Earl already married to Thomas Knowlton? It is stated on the Orange co message board that Daniel Knowlton is mentioned in the 1875 estate of Peter Earl. Is this a typo for 1825? Since Daniel Knowlton Sr and also his grandson Daniel are both alive in the 1820s, it is confusing. FINALLY, I have traced a Prosper Knowlton, b 1812 in NY, through NYC directories as running an oysterhouse in the 1830s and 1840s. I find apparently the same man in Hacken- sack, NJ, in 1850, married to Miriam/Mary B, possibly a Mott. I also find him in Ottawa Co., OH, in 1860; then his sons William M. and Martin (a CW soldier) all the way up to 1900, as oystermen in Norwalk, CT, but there is no sign that they left descendants. Prosper appears in Stocking as son of a Thomas who is son of ANOTHER Daniel, not #459. Stocking says Prosper's wife is Miriam Mott, and I did see an old man named Elisha Mott b NY living with Miriam in 1870. Any assistance or ideas welcome. Thanks, Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/306 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Fred or Addie Knowlton both born in WI or Mary KNOWLTON born in MI. They are the 3 children born of Charles Baker KNOWLTON and Mary TURNER

"Elizabeth W. Knowlton" wrote: > >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:06:28 -0700 > From: "Bruce Kemp" <Wb7ooe@earthlink.net> > To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KNOWLTON] Charles B. Knowlton > > I am looking for any information on Charles B. KNOWLTON, born in 1848 in > Wisconsin, he married Mary TURNER in 1871, they had 4 children. I know > that > he had a sister named Agnes KNOWLTON, born about 1857. > Thank You, > Bruce Kemp< > > Bruce, > > I am mortified. A year and a half ago you posted this query. > I checked Stocking for you and gave you some census search > suggestions. > > Today I went to copy the Ephraim and Elizabeth Knowlton Bible > record (typescript) for Kari and noticed to my chagrin that > on page two were listed the five children of Aratus Kent Knowlton > b Jan 30, 1825, Lockport [Niagara co] NY, died July 26, 1862: > > Charles Baker Knowlton > John Bartlett K > Eliza Jane K > Agnes Anna K > Franklin K. K (1860-1862). > > They are all in Middleton, Dane co, WI, in 1860. > Aratus (sic) was the son of Ephraim Hiram Baker Knowlton > (1786-1867) and Anna Lepper (1788-1867) who are both > on the same page of the 1860 census. > > EHB Knowlton was the son of Ephraim (b 1756) and Elizabeth > (possibly Butler). We believe that Ephraim to be the son of > Thomas Knowlton (b NY 1720). I loaded my gedcom on > worldconnect last fall, so you may see Thomas and his > children there although I have not entered anyone more > recent on this line yet. > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Please do not send me any more genealogy. We no longer have a genealogist in our midst. Thanks for all the previous information. Phyllis Haughton.

To the List: An article by Alan Savin was recently published on the New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) website. It is the first of a series about using DNA in genealogy: "Genetic Genealogy: An Introduction". Alan Savin has been a genealogist since 1986 and initiated the world's first DNA surname study in 1997. In the year 2000 he published the book DNA for Family Historians. www.newenglandancestors.org/education/articles/research/special_topics/genet ics/genetics_intro.asp As interest may appear, I continue to maintain a nascent KNOWLTON surname project at the following site: www.ftdna.com/public/knowlton%20surname/ Regards, Carlisle Knowlton Connecticut

At 01:55 AM 1/18/2005, dana jensen wrote: >Hello Darrell; >What year did Douglas Leach write "Flintlock and Tomahawk". It is interesting to me because I am related to Sarah, Robert Jr., and Robert Sr. Leach. Was it written in the time frame of late 1600's? Very curious about all this.... >Thanks, >Dana Hi, Dana: "Flintlock and Tomahawk", by Douglas Edward Leach (Asst. Prof. History, Vanderbilt U.), was published by MacMillan, N.Y., in 1958. He dedicates the book to his parents, "Saidee Raybold and Arthur Edward Leach". In the Preface, he says, "My interest in King Philip's War was first aroused during my boyhood in Rhode Island ..." For what it may be worth. Darrell Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/