Marcia Clark (aka Maclark39@aol.com) wrote: < Bill Hart listed a Russell Knowlton family. May I add the following: < Ackley Knowlton (#2525 Stocking - pg. 175) married Lydia Sherman and they < removed to Ohio. Their son Russell (#5076 Stocking - pg. 319 ) is a good < candidate to be parent of Sherman b. 1828. < Ackley is the son of Gideon K. Knowlton and Polly Hayden. < Marcia Clark Let's add some additional 1850 info. The visitation numbers for Russel KNOWLTON and family were 41 42. As I stated on my earlier post they were enumerated on the page following the one stamped 338 in New London Twp., Huron County, OH On the following page (stamped 339) is the following families: (enumerated 16 July 1850) 55 56 Ackley KNOWLTON 64 m farmer Connecticut Lydia KNOWLTON 59 f - Massachusetts Charles KNOWLTON 12 m - Ohio 54 55 Henry KNOWLTON 35 m farmer New York Sarah KNOWLTON 27 f - New Jersey Charles D. KNOWLTON 2 m - Ohio Adelaid KNOWLTON 5/12 f - Ohio 57 58 Simon S. KNOWLTON 27 m farmer New York Rachael KNOWLTON 23 f - New York They like they might well be the people in Stocking, but, since I don't own a Stocking, someone else will have to look them up. Bill

Bill Hart listed a Russell Knowlton family. May I add the following: Ackley Knowlton (#2525 Stocking - pg. 175) married Lydia Sherman and they removed to Ohio. Their son Russell (#5076 Stocking - pg. 319 ) is a good candidate to be parent of Sherman b. 1828. Ackley is the son of Gideon K. Knowlton and Polly Hayden. Marcia Clark

The last NY GENEALOGICAL AND BIOGRAPHICAL SOCIETY RECORD has an article on Revolutionary War Records Hidden in the Pension Files. The article reminded me that more and more people are relying on pension records on the Internet, such as at Heritage Quest, which is very handy but misleads one into thinking one has used the entire source. First of all the pension applications contain 80,000 separate files. When they were filmed by the Natl Government, two series of film were created. The microfilm series M805 is a selective series of only about 1/3 of all the documents. Staff took the ten most "significant" documents in large files and placed these in the front of each file. Only those were filmed. The idea was to give researchers something less unwieldy to use when looking for support for their patriotic organization applications. This is the series digitized by ProQuest for its CD and for the Internet Heritage Quest site. However, the entire series was filmed as M804, and this is the series you should use for serious research. Dr. Parry's 16-page article mentioned above gives numerous examples of what may be missed by using the short series. For instance, many veterans who never applied for pensions still appear in pension applications when they made affidavits testifying to a fellow soldier's service. Some of Parry's illustrations list men who appear neither in NEW YORK IN THE REVOLUTION (the standard listing of soldiers) nor in the Compiled Service Records (M881). Recently, I was corresponding with the Alden Project about my ancestor Nathaniel Holmes, who began service in MA but ended it in NY where he lived the rest of his life. I had an additional son for the man, not mentioned in the will that the Alden Project had collected. The son's name did not appear in the initial pension application but in a document created over ten years later when my careless ancestor, who had lost his proof of pension, had to reapply. That document did not make it into M805. These national records on film are available at all regional branches of the National Archives, at Family History Centers, and at major research libraries. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Some of you may have noticed that I have entered a second wife for Thomas Knowlton (ca 1720-1801) of Ulster Co., NY, ca 1750-1770s. After getting the hint from someone else's entry that an Ann Clugston/Clugstone/Cluxton/Claxton of Fairfield Co., CT, had married Thomas Knowlton of Ulster Co., NY, in the 18th century, I appealed to a friend who has done a lot of CT genealogy. Ann appears in Donald Jacobus' FAMILIES OF OLD FAIRFIELD [also known as FOOF] and a fair amount of information was available on her. She was not young when she married after 1759 [wills are the source of her name change rather than a marriage record] and seems to have been Thomas' second wife. This all fits in OK with Thomas Jr's Bible record where he says he is the son of Thomas and Ann(a). I have amended my list of children to fit this new development but am still not confident that all are Thomas' or where they fit in, particularly the women. Stocking's birthdates for most of the men are from their Revolutionary War pension records as are the birthplaces. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Hi, Juanita, Nice to hear from a recently-immigrated Knowlton line. Thanks for hanging in with us because we really are about 95% descended from that crowd in Ipswich, MA< USA. I used to foolishly think there were no Knowltons left in England after 1800. My, was I wrong! A good project would be to use the LDS 1880/1881 censuses of USA, Canada, and UK to create a database of Knowltons who were born in England or Ireland. You might use Excel or some similar program and have fields for First Name; Location at time of census; place of birth; age or est birthyear; relationships to others in database; religion when given; occupation; and so forth. You might include American male Knowltons who say their fathers were born in England or Ireland also. I am sure this would prove more and more useful as time goes on for all of you with recent English roots. And in the long run it might even prove useful to helping us Ipswich people determine our English roots also. Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Hi there Knowlton's, I have been receiving the Knowlton newsletter for sometime and I thought I would write in to see if anyone can help me. My mother was a Knowlton. Her grandfather came to Canada in 1886 as a home child although he was about 20 years old. Barnardo's arranged his passage and he had to repay the organisation. His name was Alfred Walter Knowlton. He settled in the Shelburne Ontario area and was a very well respected member of the community from all accounts. Anyway his family was from England, St Pancras, Middlesex. His father was James(b. 1840 approx.) and he drowned in Bath in 1870. James married Letitia Stringer in 1858, in St Thomas, Stepney, England. I have found five children, including Alfred. I have traced this family to Joseph and Hannah Knowlton, who as far as I can tell had their first child in 1805 in Essex? or York(shire)?. Any help anyone can offer would be very, very much appreciated. I look forward to hearing something from anyone with thanks,-Juanita< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/312 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the family of Delbert E. Knowlton and his wife Floy I.. Delbert was born Jul 1885 in Wisconsin and Floy was born 1890 in Wisconsin. They had 3 children that I know of - Dorian, Lois and Harvey. I am especially interested in the last name of Floy. Any other info would be great though.

Andrea, I found this in the 1850 Census: New London Township, Huron County, Ohio enumerated 16 July 1850 on page following the one stamped 338 Russel KNOWLTON 37 m New York farmer Lorana KNOWLTON 38 f New York Sherman KNOWLTON 15 m New York Henry A. KNOWLTON 12 m Ohio Asael KNOWLTON 9 m New York Tasey L. KNOWLTON 2 f Ohio Lorana might be Lovana, but there's no way I can get Lavina out of it. It's too clearly written. I also found one Russel KNOWLTON in the 1840 Census. He is in Poultney, Steuben Co., NY. 1 male < 5 1 male 5 < 10 1 male and 1 female 20 < 30 ---- Bill Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >I'm interested in Knowltons that imigrated from NY to Ohio. My line Sherman Knowlton born in NY abt.1835 May Lavina Knowlton born in Ohio abt. 1869 Janice Charlotte Simmons born in Ohio in 1901 Clarence Zieske born in Ohio in 1921 Thanks, Andrea< This is a hard one, Andrea. I found him on the 1880 and 1870 censuses in Ohio and in Kansas. But he should show up in Ohio in 1860 with wife Susan and little Spencer aged 1. Nowhere to be seen. I even did searches on all the Shermans and all the Knowltons from NY and all sorts of other things. Since they were in Huron Co in 1880, I did even wilder searches in that county in 1860, but no go. This is not the Sherman b 1848 who appears in Stocking. I do not have access to the 1850 census, but perhaps somone could check Ohio for Knowltons b NY in that year--although there is no guarantee he had left NY yet. I would begin collecting all the records available in Crawford Co, KS, ca 1870, and those in Huron Co., OH, later. Purdy is an old NY name, so there may be Purdys back in the family--I refer to son Purdy age 13 in 1880. I did find Sherman's wife in 1900 DIVORCED and working as a servant in Huron Co. There are some records you could get. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >I'm interested in Knowltons that imigrated from NY to Ohio. My line Sherman Knowlton born in NY abt.1835 May Lavina Knowlton born in Ohio abt. 1869 Janice Charlotte Simmons born in Ohio in 1901 Clarence Zieske born in Ohio in 1921 Thanks, Andrea< This is a hard one, Andrea. I found him on the 1880 and 1870 censuses in Ohio and in Kansas. But he should show up in Ohio in 1860 with wife Susan and little Spencer aged 1. Nowhere to be seen. I even did searches on all the Shermans and all the Knowltons from NY and all sorts of other things. Since they were in Huron Co in 1880, I did even wilder searches in that county in 1860, but no go. This is not the Sherman b 1848 who appears in Stocking. I do not have access to the 1850 census, but perhaps somone could check Ohio for Knowltons b NY in that year--although there is no guarantee he had left NY yet. I would begin collecting all the records available in Crawford Co, KS, ca 1870, and those in Huron Co., OH, later. Purdy is an old NY name, so there may be Purdys back in the family--I refer to son Purdy age 13 in 1880. I did find Sherman's wife in 1900 DIVORCED and working as a servant in Huron Co. There are some records you could get. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Hi there Knowlton's, I have been receiving the Knowlton newsletter for sometime and I thought I would write in to see if anyone can help me. My mother was a Knowlton. Her grandfather came to Canada in 1886 as a home child although he was about 20 years old. Barnardo's arranged his passage and he had to repay the organisation. His name was Alfred Walter Knowlton. He settled in the Shelburne Ontario area and was a very well respected member of the community from all accounts. Anyway his family was from England, St Pancras, Middlesex. His father was James(b. 1840 approx.) and he drowned in Bath in 1870. James married Letitia Stringer in 1858, in St Thomas, Stepney, England. I have found five children, including Alfred. I have traced this family to Joseph and Hannah Knowlton, who as far as I can tell had their first child in 1805 in Essex? or York(shire)?. Any help anyone can offer would be very, very much appreciated. I look forward to hearing something from anyone with thanks,-Juanita >From: KNOWLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >To: KNOWLTON-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: KNOWLTON-D Digest V05 #21 >Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:00:02 -0700 > >Content-Type: text/plain > >KNOWLTON-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 21 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Lydia Knowlton,married to Samuel P ["Elizabeth W. Knowlton" ><KnowltonE] > #2 Re: [KNOWLTON] Knowltons up the Hu ["Andrea Ormond" ><andrea@authentic.] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from KNOWLTON-D, send a message to > > KNOWLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the list administrator, send mail to >KNOWLTON-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:31:56 -0500 >From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> >To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <200503192032_MC3-1-98C1-747E@compuserve.com> >Subject: Lydia Knowlton,married to Samuel P. McGeorge >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Earl, I am sending this message on to the Knowlton >rootsweb mailing list as there are a number >of people who believe they are descended >from Rachel Perry. > > > >Message text written by Earl Cal > > > Ms. Knowlton, > > 1st allow me to introduce myself,my name is Earl >Dennis Cal,Lydia Knowlton ,is a part of my Family >line,she is my,GGGGreatGrandmother. > > I already know much about the Knowlton Family >Line,but very little about the McGeorge part,I'm >lookingto anyone who might have some history about >them. > > It possible Samuel change his last name,some beleive >he change it from McGregoror McGregory,there are some >McGeorge still very much alive,but the ones who could >have helped me have passed on. > > I merely wish to fill the gaps,Rachel Perry and >Capt. William Knowlton was her parents,at lease >Rachel was,I know her Father was William Or Robert. > > If by chance you can help,I would be deeply >grateful,if not,well feel free to just chat,I'm 100% >certain we are distant cousins. > > I appreciate you reading this message and thankyou >for your time. > Earl Dennis Cal< > > > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:57:45 -0800 >From: "Andrea Ormond" <andrea@authentic.net> >To: KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <192001c510a6$3ea36b80$c5473ec6@desktop> >Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Knowltons up the Hudson River 18th c >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I'm interested in Knowltons that imigrated from NY to Ohio. >My line >Sherman Knowlton born in NY abt.1835 >May Lavina Knowlton born in Ohio abt. 1869 >Janice Charlotte Simmons born in Ohio in 1901 >Clarence Zieske born in Ohio in 1921 > >Thanks, > >Andrea > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ck" <carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net> >To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:06 AM >Subject: Re: [KNOWLTON] Knowltons up the Hudson River 18th c > > > > > > > > For anyone who might care to have it, I have a list of 40+ persons, > > KNOWLTONs and others, appearing in KNOWLTON households in the federal >and >NY > > state censuses for Erie County, NY, 1850, 1855, and 1860, with >miscellaneous > > details, usually including place of birth, and/or previous residence --- > > done some years ago in connection with other research --- no special > > attention either way to possible Westchester County, NY origins. > > > > The list is in Excel spreadsheet format and would be far better sent as > > such. > > > > Carlisle Knowlton > > > > carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Lepper, Flanders, Tiedeman Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/302.1 Message Board Post: From the “History of Dane County-1880” under the ‘Town of Middleton’ there is a biographical sketch for, H.B. Knowlton, farmer, Sec 3; P.O. Middleton; came to Wisconsin in the spring of 1850, and located on the farm he now lives on in the spring of 1869; he was born in the State of New York in 1810; his father’s name was Ephraim H.B. Knowlton; his mother’s name was Annie Lepper. Married Elizabeth Flanders, of Vermont, in 1842; they have two children, one daughter in Chicago, who married John Tiedeman; and Thomas E., who owns and runs an adjoining farm. Thomas E. married Margerie Bethel, of Oregon, Wis. Mr Knowlton has a fine farm of 80 acres, worth $4000, three miles from Middleton; he is a Democrat of the old-fashioned kind; his father was one of the pioneers of the county.

Earl, I am sending this message on to the Knowlton rootsweb mailing list as there are a number of people who believe they are descended from Rachel Perry. Message text written by Earl Cal > Ms. Knowlton, 1st allow me to introduce myself,my name is Earl Dennis Cal,Lydia Knowlton ,is a part of my Family line,she is my,GGGGreatGrandmother. I already know much about the Knowlton Family Line,but very little about the McGeorge part,I'm lookingto anyone who might have some history about them. It possible Samuel change his last name,some beleive he change it from McGregoror McGregory,there are some McGeorge still very much alive,but the ones who could have helped me have passed on. I merely wish to fill the gaps,Rachel Perry and Capt. William Knowlton was her parents,at lease Rachel was,I know her Father was William Or Robert. If by chance you can help,I would be deeply grateful,if not,well feel free to just chat,I'm 100% certain we are distant cousins. I appreciate you reading this message and thankyou for your time. Earl Dennis Cal< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

A kind, non-Knowlton friend has shared this Knowlton information with us. Look sharply because the items do not line up exactly with the columns. KNOWLTON NAMES From the Ancestor Service, CT Society of Genealogists The Connecticut Nutmegger, Vol. 9, 1976, pp. 617-619 The first name on each group is the last known ancestor and who she married, if known. The dates are dates of birth. Once the Member Number is known, the search then goes to the volumes where each member's charts are filed by number. The charts are the standard horizontal trees with 4 generations per page. Name Place Date Member No. & page Mary (Samuel Abby) 1649 1826-22 William 1826-173 William 1826-173 Richard 1826-173 Margaret (Edmund Hovey) Mass 1734 73-7 Ezekiel Mass 1703 73-7 Ezekiel 1678 73-51 John Mass 1646 73-51 William Eng 1615 73-51 William Eng 1584 73-410 Maud Sybil (Ira R. Rood) Wisc 1879 105-1 Francis K. NY 1848 105-1 Gideon P. NY 1825 105-8 Henry 105-8 Rev. Gideon Mass 1759 105-5 Gideon Mass 1739 105-58 Silas Mass 1712 105-58 Timothy Mass 105-58 Thomas Conn 1728 105-58 Thomas Conn 1699 105-58 Thomas Mass 1670 105-58 Thomas Mass 1641 105-458 William Eng 1615 105-458 William Eng 1584 105-458 Elizabeth (William Knowlton) 1699 189-14 Thomas Mass 1670 189-14 Thomas Mass 1640 189-14 William Eng 1615 189-14 Susannah (William Ward Fuller) Conn 1759 521-8 Stephen Sr. Conn 1730 521-8 Thomas Conn 1699 521-60 Thomas Mass 1670 521-60 Thomas Mass 1640 5212-60 Lydia (John Bassinger) Conn 1783 521-9 Rev. Gideon Ackley Conn 1758 521-9 Thomas 1670 521-72 Nancy (Ebenezer Bunill Phillips) 1816 1085-6 James Mass 1783 1085-6 Edmund 1085-6 Rachel (Hezekiah Pratt) Mass 1714 1522-69 Thomas Mass 1662 1522-69 John 1633 1522-69 Mary (Gail Borden) 1569S-5 Thomas 1569S-35 Thomas RI 1719 1569S-35 Elisha 1569S-35 Joseph 1651 1569S-55 William Eng 1615 1569S-274 William Eng 1584 1569S-274 Richard Eng 1553 1569S-274 Maj. Gen. William Mass 1920 1654-1 Frank Mass 1878 1654-1 Hosea ME 1847 1654-1 Rev. Isaac ME 1819 1564-1 Ezekiel Mass 1765 1564-2 Mary ME 1779 1654-2 Nathaniel Mass 1743 1654-2 Nathaniel 1717 1654-2 Ebenezer Mass 1684 1654-14 Samuel Eng 1647 1654-14 William Eng 1615 1654-14 William Eng 1584 1654-106 Richard Eng 1553 1654-106 Marion (Arthur Remington) Neb 1896 1678-1 Frank IL 1872 1678-1 Israel VT 1815 1678-1 Benjamin Mass 1784 1678-2 Nathan Mass 1760 1678-2 Joseph Mass 1726 1678-2 Bethia Mass 1709 1726S-33 Rice Mass 1676 1726S-33 John Mass 1645/6 1726S-33 William Eng 1615 1726S-262 Capt. William Eng 1584 1726S-262 Richard Eng 1553 1726S-262 Mary 1709 1924-4 Benjamin Mass 1679 1924-29 Benjamin 1646 1924-29 William Eng 1924-29 Susanna Mass 1673 1957S-33 John 1957S-33 John Eng 1610 1957S-33 Edna Pearl Fla 1905 2289-1 Charles Alexander NH 1847 2289-1 Andrew Benjamin NH 1819 2289-1 Asa NH 1777 2289-1 Thomas NH 1749 2289-2 Thomas NH 1708 2289-2 John 1673 2289-2 Sally B. (Asa Knowlton) NH 1793 2289-1 Ebenezer 1759 2289-3 Thomas NH 1708 2289-3 John 1673 2289-3 Thomas 1641 2289-10 William 2289-10 William Eng 1584 2289-10 Mary (John Bidwell) 1789 2525-2 Joshua 2525-2 Silas 2525-2 Timothy 1687 2525-14 John 1656 2525-14 John 2525-14 Susanna (Josiah Dodge) Mass 2698-32 John Mass 1685 2698-32 Nathaniel Mass 1658 2698-252 John Mass 1633 2698-252 John Eng 1610 2698-252 Cyntha M. (C. Kezar) Que 1852 3299-1 Newton Que 1815 3299-1 Lyman Mass 1774 3299-8 Ezekiel Mass 1736 3299-8 Ezekiel Mass 1707 3299-8 Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Bill, I have located this Lyman on the 1850 census in Collins, Erie co, with wife Lucy and son Jared P Knowlton. I believe him to be #5091 in Stocking as in 1860 in Dayton, Cattaraugus co, NY, he and Lucy and Geo and Willie (little Jared has apparently died) are living with an old man named Jared Knowlton, aged 62, b NY, who appears in Stocking as Lyman's father. In 1850 this Jared is in Collins also, a woolen manufacturer, 51, with Charlotte, 46. I would guess him to be #2534 who married Charlotte Burright. The family came from Troy, NY. This Jared is not the Jared of Bill Allen's ancestry who only briefly crossed NY state on his way to Portage co, OH. However, another of you has laid out a family history of Roswells and Jareds from Belchertown, MA, and I believe this Jared is more closely related to them. (But all are probably descended from same 18th c Jared in CT.) Nor is this Lyman the one I am researching, #1154, who was probably born in Saratoga Co, lived 1797-1882. I have located him in Oneida Co, Utica, in 1830; Syracuse, Onondaga co, in 1850 (wife Sarah, children Lyman and Hellen), occupation, waggonry; and then finally as Lyman Nolton with his daughter Hellen L. Leland and family in Cleveland, OH, in 1880. The man has escaped me in 1840, 1860, and 1870. Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >< Elizabeth: < I have Lyman in 1855, enumerated 22 June, age 32, born "catta". The < information as to arrival date in Erie County was not provided. < ck I wonder where in Cattaraugus County Lyman was born? And who his parents were? James Palmer KNOWLTON, who married by great-grandaunt Mary Frances HART, was born in Freedom, Cattaraugus County on 6 December 1823. Lyman is NOT a brother of James, but they might be related... or not. Bill< Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/309.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Have you checked www.familysearch.org or RootsWeb.? Depending on dates, there is a listing of Leonard Knowlton's with dates in the 1800s. Hope this helps and good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton-Pike Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/309.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello and thank you for responding. Yes, I have checked SSDI as well as the usual (i.e. relatives, "google", etc). I would like to know birth and death info on Leonard as well as where he is buried. His parents names. His daughter, Penelope's birth and death information. Thank you for your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton & Pike Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/309.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello and thank you for responding to my queery. I have checked SSDI, "googled" checked with living relatives, etc and still would like to know: when and where were Leonard and Penelope born? where are they buried? Leonard's parents information. where did Leonard die? Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/310 Message Board Post: Family history [1800-1906] documented in this Bible. More info available at eBay item # 6946959600. I have no connection to this item.

"ck" <carlisle.knowlton@comcast.net> < Elizabeth: < I have Lyman in 1855, enumerated 22 June, age 32, born "catta". The < information as to arrival date in Erie County was not provided. < ck I wonder where in Cattaraugus County Lyman was born? And who his parents were? James Palmer KNOWLTON, who married by great-grandaunt Mary Frances HART, was born in Freedom, Cattaraugus County on 6 December 1823. Lyman is NOT a brother of James, but they might be related... or not. Bill

Elizabeth: I have Lyman in 1855, enumerated 22 June, age 32, born "catta". The information as to arrival date in Erie County was not provided. ck

Elizabeth, My snipets were just to explain why Tom knew my great grandmother was both a Knowlton and a Vought. Tom also knew that I was unable to find where Leander W. Knowlton's parents died and were buried. My great grandmother Hattie Lenore Christian Knowlton b. 1863 descended from both Vought and Knowlton lines. Then she married her cousin George Vought. Twelve years after George died she married his brother Wm Henry who was also widowed and together they raised several of their grandchildren after their own children had died. My Voughts were from the Peekskill area and then migrated to other areas of NY before migrating west. Leander Knowlton's parents Henry Knowlton II b: September 20, 1778 and his wife Rebecca Southwick are my brick walls. They may have died in Western, NY before 1850 because so many of their children were living in that area. Leander married Maryette Christian Vought and Maryette's brother William Jackson Vought was the father of Hattie Knowlton's first and second husbands. To complicate things even more Hattie and George Vought's daughter Gladys married George's sister Sarahette's son Wm Dymond. It makes a very complicated family tree. I found in my great grandmother Hattie Vought's things a yellowed brittle scrap of paper that states..... This may certify, to all whom it may appear or concern that , I have this day married Leander W Knowlton of the town of Victory, to Miss Maryette Vought of the town of Butler, according to the Laws of the State of New York. Dated it the 14th day of September 1844 Augustus F Ferris Justice --------------------------------------------------- Leander's Knowlton line is from Rice Knowlton Jr. 1 Rice Knowlton Jr. b: January 27, 1705 in Wenham, Ipswich , Essex, Massachusetts d: Bef. June 9, 1762 in Pelham, Hillsborough Co., NH .. +Lydia Adams b: December 16, 1704 in Ipswich , Essex, Massachusetts m: December 12, 1727 in Ipswich , Wenham, Massachusetts d: Aft. April 1753 in Pelham, Hillsborough Co., NH age 49 ... 2 Benjamin Franklin Knowlton b: June 10, 1728 in Ipswich , Massachusetts d: July 21, 1809 in Sangerfield, NY, 81 years 1 month 11 days buried Old Sangerfield cemetery ....... +Phebe Wright b: November 22, 1728 in Check file for NH 1790 project m: September 26, 1750 in New Ipswich, Hillsboro Co., New Hampshire d: January 1, 1813 in died at Brookfield, NY, buried Sangerfield cemetery age 84 years 1 month 9 days ........ 3 Henry Knowlton (829) b: April 16, 1756 in probably at New Ipswich, NH d: September 7, 1835 in Sullivan Twp., Tioga Co., Pa ............ +Sibbel (Libbie) Wright b: February 13, 1759 in Hollis, Hillsborough County, NH m: Abt. 1777 d: June 4, 1793 in Sangerfield, New York ( age 34 years 4 months 21 days) ............. 4 Henry J Knowlton II b: September 20, 1778 in New Ipswich, Mason Twp. New Hampshire, Hillsboro County d: 1838 in New Ipswich, NH according to Stocking,?, more likely Cayuga Co., NY ................. +Rebecca Southwick b: Abt. 1781 in Connecticut m: Abt. 1809 .................. 5 Leander Walsingham Knowlton b: July 7, 1814 in New Ipswich, New Hampshire, Hillsboro County d: December 19, 1893 in buried Brevort, Michigan ...................... +Maryette Christian Vought b: March 31, 1825 in West Point, (Highland Falls) New York m: September 14, 1844 in New York State d: January 12, 1885 in buried Riverside Cemetery, Kalamazoo, Michigan ....................... 6 Hattie Lenore Christian Knowlton b: January 17, 1863 in Clarks Mill, Cato, Manitowoc Co. Wisconsin d: March 5, 1944 in Onaway, Michigan Direct Descendants of Henry Christian Vought 1 Henry Christian Vought b: February 16, 1760 in Peekskill N.Y birth recorded Dutch Reformed church in Cortlandt d: October 7, 1842 in Buried in St Peter's Cemetery, Peekskill N.Y. .. +Rebecca Nelson b: 1765 d: May 20, 1841 in near Annsville, vicinity of Peekskill, N.Y. 76 years of age ... 2 John Christian Vought b: 1784 in New York d: Aft. 1880 in 1880 was alive, age 96 in Hendricks Twp., Epoufette, Mackinac Co., MI ....... + Mary + Phebe + third wife Anna ........ 3 William Jackson Vought b: February 19, 1823 in West Point, Orange Co., NY d: July 29, 1897 in Ironton, Eveline Twp. Charlevoix Co., Michigan 86 years age ............ +Sarah Cooper b: Abt. 1830 in Vermont (ref. 1860 census, Trowbridge Twp., Allegan Co., MI m: Abt. 1850 d: March 25, 1863 in buried Trowbridge, Allegan Co., MI ............. 4 Sarah Ette Christian Vought b: January 9, 1852 in B. in Lagrange Co. Indiana d: May 4, 1921 in buried in United Methodist Church cemetery Trowbridge, Allegan Co. MI ................. +Darius Dymond b: August 11, 1847 in Cooper, Michigan m: January 26, 1868 in Allegan Co., MI d: December 9, 1893 in buried Trowbridge, Methodist Cemetery, Allegan, Mi. .................. 5 [2] William Lee Dymond b: February 11, 1877 in Allegan Co, Mi. - moved to North Allis in 1906 d: June 10, 1939 in Onaway, Michigan 62 yrs, 4 mo, ...................... +[1] Gladys Christian Vought b: March 17, 1887 in Brevort, Michigan, first white child born at the "Warehouse" m: September 16, 1907 in Sault Ste Marie, Canada d: June 1, 1964 in Rogers City, Michigan age 77 ............. 4 [7] George Alvin Christian Vought b: May 4, 1853 in Johnson Twp., La Grange Co. Indiana d: December 26, 1909 in Bearinger Township, Onaway, Presque Isle Co., MI ................. +[6] Hattie Lenore Christian Knowlton b: January 17, 1863 in Clarks Mill, Cato, Manitowoc Co. Wisconsin m: January 16, 1885 in Cooper, Kalamazoo Co, Michigan, moved Mackinaw Co. 1885 d: March 5, 1944 in Onaway, Michigan .................. 5 [1] Gladys Christian Vought b: March 17, 1887 in Brevort, Michigan, first white child born at the "Warehouse" d: June 1, 1964 in Rogers City, Michigan age 77 ...................... +[2] William Lee Dymond b: February 11, 1877 in Allegan Co, Mi. - moved to North Allis in 1906 m: September 16, 1907 in Sault Ste Marie, Canada d: June 10, 1939 in Onaway, Michigan 62 yrs, 4 mo, ....................... ........ 3 Maryette Christian Vought b: March 31, 1825 in West Point, (Highland Falls) New York d: January 12, 1885 in buried Riverside Cemetery, Kalamazoo, Michigan ............ +Leander Walsingham Knowlton b: July 7, 1814 in New Ipswich, New Hampshire, Hillsboro County m: September 14, 1844 in New York State d: December 19, 1893 in buried Brevort, Michigan ............. 4 [6] Hattie Lenore Christian Knowlton b: January 17, 1863 in Clarks Mill, Cato, Manitowoc Co. Wisconsin d: March 5, 1944 in Onaway, Michigan ................. +[7] George Alvin Christian Vought b: May 4, 1853 in Johnson Twp., La Grange Co. Indiana m: January 16, 1885 in Cooper, Kalamazoo Co, Michigan, moved Mackinaw Co. 1885 d: December 26, 1909 in Bearinger Township, Onaway, Presque Isle Co., MI .................. 5 [1] Gladys Christian Vought b: March 17, 1887 in Brevort, Michigan, first white child born at the "Warehouse" d: June 1, 1964 in Rogers City, Michigan age 77 ...................... +[2] William Lee Dymond b: February 11, 1877 in Allegan Co, Mi. - moved to North Allis Twp. in 1906 m: September 16, 1907 in Sault Ste Marie, Canada d: June 10, 1939 in Onaway, Michigan 62 yrs, 4 mo, ....................... I have a few (not my direct line) connections to the Earl surname in my data. Portrait and Biographical record of Orange Co. by Chapman Vol.3 pg. 1481 Elam Earl was born on a farm adjoining his present homestead, and spent his entire life in this vicinity, following agriculture for his occupation. In his youth he attended the district schools at Bakertown and Highland Mills, but his educational advantages were very meager, and his knowledge was mainly acquired by self culture. Unto his, marriage seven children were born, namely Elizabeth, Mrs Jacob Blaheny, deceased, formerly of New York City, and who had four sons in the war; Mehitable; Mary, deceased, wife of Simon Howell of Blooming Grove: Rachel, who married Charles Mapes, of Monroe; Nathaniel, who resides on a farm between Highland Mills and central Valley; Matilda, whose first husband was Charles Peters, and her second Henry Mapes; and Peter who married Hannah Conklin and is now deceased. Peter Earl born on May 19, 1830, died on October 18, 1881. Peter Earl's life work was agriculture, he owned a large part of Schunnemunk Mountain known as the Benton Brooks tract upon which he spent many a day hunting the game that abounded there. My connection to Earl is 1 James Clark Sr. b: February 19, 1790 in Orange Co., New York d: April 26, 1872 in Orange Co., New York .. +Catherine (Katie) Christian Vought b: November 30, 1805 d: November 20, 1896 Catherine Vought was a sister in law to Elam Earl. Good Luck Elizabeth. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Orange Co Knowltons > Thank you, Marilyn, > > I do have the census work done and know that the old man is > Daniel Knowlton (458) living in the household of his son Thomas. > He dies in 1838 according to the journal of Richard Woolsey. > > I have seen Voughts in the area but am not quite following your > two snippets. Where does Leander come in? > > If I am understanding what you say, your Leander/Henry line > was traced from western NY direct to NH. Were there two > Leanders, one in Orange county? > > I have a listing of children for Thomas (who married two > Earl sisters) but have no idea of the other siblings of Thomas. > > Thanks, Elizabeth > > Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com > >Elizabeth, > I was cleaning up old e-mails and ran across this one that had been sent to > me > by a Orange and Westchester County researcher who had been a great help to > me on my Voughts. He knew about my great grandmother Vought being a > daughter of Leander Knowlton and of my search for Leander Knowlton's > father > Henry Knowlton. > > I had no need to follow up on this because my Knowlton's ended up in > western > NY after migrating from NH. Knowing you Elizabeth, you probably already > have the 1830 census for Thomas Knowlton. Thought I'd send it on just in > case you did not. > > Marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <mmadden@northland.lib.mi.us> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:17 AM > Subject: Knowlton in 1830 census. > > > You probably have seen this already but should be worth consideration as > a > > possble connection to Leander, as there are not many Knowltons floating > > around in Orange Co. back then. Possible Thomas Knowlton is the 80-90 and > > could be father to Henry 50-60 and Leander is one of the kids, though age > > might be off. I will poke around at this. Of course it could be > coincidence > > or an uncle..... > > > > There is a Thomas Knowlton listed in the 1830 US census, Town of > Cornwall, > > Orange Co., NY, living between Luke Mandigo and Beverly Garrison, Hiram > > Taylor, which should be the area between Ft. Montgomery and Highland > Union > > cemetery; 1male 5-10, 1male 20-30, 1male 50-60, 1male 80-90, 1fem 10-15, > 1fem > 50-60. > < > > > > Elizabeth W. 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