Marcia, Since Martha has answered your question concerning Wiram L. Knowlton's parentage, here's some information for you, and others who might be interested, about Judge Wiram Knowlton: Wiram Knowlton, b. Jan 24, 1816 in Smithville, Chenango, NY to Ephraim Hiram Baker Knowlton and Anna Lepper. Moved to Janesville, Rock, WI ca. 1837 along with his parents and five brothers. Moved to Prairie Du Chien, Crawford, WI in 1840. Served on the Territorial Council from 1844-1846. At the beginning of the Mexican War, he raised a company of volunteers who were assigned to attached frontier duty, and served as Captain and commander of Fort Crawford, WI . In 1850, he was elected circuit judge for the 6th Judicial District of WI. As circuit judge, he also served as a justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court until a separate Supreme Court was formed in 1853. He served as a circuit judge until 1856. Wiram Knowlton died June 27, 1863 in Menekaunee, Oconto, WI at the age of 47. He never married or had children. You may have come across a Wiram A. Knowlton, born in WI, in the California censuses for the same time period. That Wiram is the son of Judge Wiram's brother, John Barlett Knowlton. Since Wiram was a brother to my ggg-grandfather, Aratus K. Knowlton (and an interesting character), I have lots more information, if anyone needs it. Kari Flodin

No, this Wyram/Wiram is the son of Stephen Knowlton and Elizabeth Allen, my great-great grandparents. Stephen was born in Vermont to Daniel Knowlton and Anna French, and moved with them first to Ohio (where he married in 1838), then briefly Missouri, then Wisconsin, where they lived quite some time, in Iowa Co., Richland Co., and Lafayette Co., before moving on to Iowa (Dallas Co.). Most of Stephen's children eventually went to California. I have also wondered about Judge Wiram, mostly because the name is not very common, but I have found no connection so far. Stephen's brother was an Ephraim, too, but born in Vermont and lived in Grant Co., WI for most of his life. I think the judge was born in NY and lived in Crawford Co. If you find out anything more, please let me know! Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 09:04 AM 3/23/2006 -0500, Maclark39@aol.com wrote: >Can anyone confirm the following is son of Judge Wiram Knowlton (son of >Ephraim H.B.) of Wisconsin? > >1900 census, California, Anaheim twp., series T623, roll 95, pg. 8, >sub pg B, Line 74, dw 192, fam 193, Knowlton > Wyram L, head, b. Dec 1855, 45 y, mar 3 yr, b. Wisconsin, fam. N.Y., mo. >Pa., farmer, yes R + W, Owns Free of mortgage Farm #189 on farm schedule > ?Nickamora?, wife, w.f., b. J....., 1859, 41 y, mar 3 yr., 1 ch, 1 lvg, >b. Calif., fa. Spain, mo. Calif., yes R + W > Laura, dau. w. f. b. Apr. 1898, 2 yr, single > Elizabeth, mother, w. f., b. Feb. 1820, 80 yr, wid., 10 childr., 7 >living, b. Pa, fa. Pa, mo. Pa. yes R +W >******** >Marcia > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Can anyone confirm the following is son of Judge Wiram Knowlton (son of Ephraim H.B.) of Wisconsin? 1900 census, California, Anaheim twp., series T623, roll 95, pg. 8, sub pg B, Line 74, dw 192, fam 193, Knowlton Wyram L, head, b. Dec 1855, 45 y, mar 3 yr, b. Wisconsin, fam. N.Y., mo. Pa., farmer, yes R + W, Owns Free of mortgage Farm #189 on farm schedule ?Nickamora?, wife, w.f., b. J....., 1859, 41 y, mar 3 yr., 1 ch, 1 lvg, b. Calif., fa. Spain, mo. Calif., yes R + W Laura, dau. w. f. b. Apr. 1898, 2 yr, single Elizabeth, mother, w. f., b. Feb. 1820, 80 yr, wid., 10 childr., 7 living, b. Pa, fa. Pa, mo. Pa. yes R +W ******** Marcia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/325 Message Board Post: I am looking for any family information on Catherine Knowlton who was wife of Levi Nathaniel Whitcomb. He was born in 1803 in MA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/324 Message Board Post: I am looking for any family information on Catherine Knowlton who was wife of Levi Nathaniel Whitcomb. He was born in 1803 in MA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/323 Message Board Post: I am looking for information about Joseph and Hannah, both born about 1780 in England. I am interested in their family also-Sarah-1805, John Joseph-1807, Ann maria-1810, James-1813, Charles-1818, George William-1821. Does anyone know who Joseph c1780 was the son of or what was Hannah's maiden name. I'm really stuck, please help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON, DESREUSSEAU Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/322.1 Message Board Post: Liza, It is Elizabeth Knowlton, not Elislabach--just a messy census taker. If you look at the 1850 you will see her as Elizabeth, wife of Abraham Knowlton. In 1860 she appears as Emily. In 1870 as Elinor. The consensus is that it is Elizabeth. Born in Arkansas. From a newspaper article someone in 2002 said her full name was Elizabeth Eleanor Desreusseau, and marriage Jan 6, 1837. She was the second wife. She was married at residence of James H. Lucas in Arkansas Co. [ARKANSAS GAZETTE and LITTLE ROCK TIMES]. Check mailing list archives for May 2002 to get message. Go to rootsweb's worldconnect and type in Abraham Knowlton b abt 1794 in CT. That will give you one family tree. Others have worked on this genealogy. Why not join our rootsweb mailing list so we don't have to go on line to type here? Maury Knowlton, descended from Pole, was working on this line in 2001.

udmacon@aol.com wrote: >I have given my DNA to this project but have not heard anything about the results. > >Where do i get any information? > >Thanks > Hi Bill: I will have to answer some of this off-list as your file contains personal information, including passwords, which are not within my authority to release. Briefly however, your test kit register number is 25787 , you received it at your home mailing address in the fall of 2004, returned it to FTDNA on October 22, 2004; and your results were sent back to you at that same address sometime later that year. Simultaneously your results were posted on the FTDNA home page via the Knowlton Surname Group, which you can access by going to: www.ftdna.com I sent you e-mail notification of this point at that time. The results themselves are available at all times. Although, after so long you may have to do some reconfirmation of passwords stuff. Sorry you have had this problem. I will stay in touch with FTDNA on this and pass the information I have on request as soon as received. Best regards, ck

I have given my DNA to this project but have not heard anything about the results. Where do i get any information? Thanks BILL KNOWLTON, "Bluegrass Ramble," Sundays: 9 p.m.to Midnight, WCNY (91.3) Syracuse, WUNY (89.5) Utica, WJNY (90.9) Watertown NY, and www.wcny.org on the web. Since 1973!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/322 Message Board Post: Elislabach Knowlton is from Mississippi Township, Desha Cty., Ark. She is on the 1880 Census rolls and is my G-G-G-Grandmother. According to this record she was 69 and had 8 family members living with her at the time. Her son Pole Knowlton,my G-G-Grandfather, is listed as living with her. He was born-1844 in Napoleon, AK. and left Desha Cty., Ark. around 1889 and went across the river to Donelson Plantation near Gunnison, Mississippi. We know he married a Catherine Mary Darr, one child-Sam Dove and a Emma Stafford, one child-Polly Gibert. Can anyone help solve this? Who and where did Elislabach come from?

Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: >Carlisle, > >I have now read enough on the Internet to follow all you >told us. Sorry I was so dense so long. > >Have more Knowlton men been tested? Are you willing >to contact some we know who are terrible procrastinators >but might move on it if you gave specific instructions? > >Thanks for all you have done. > >Elizabeth > ................................................................. <SNIP> ............................................................... Elizabeth: Whatever you have been reading you have put your finger spot on both the problem and the solution; moving quickly and accurately to the only worthwhile approach: Grow the database. As to your specific question: Other than the 6-8 subjects tested for the DNA Surname site, we are currently working with a couple of additional possibilities, both closely allied with the line but with family rather than primary surname relationship. You touch a chord with this suggestion, because so far my own experience has been that nothing works so well as direct contact; individually oriented; more so rather than less. Thank you for picking up on this. Carlisle http://www.ftdna.com/public/knowlton%20surname/

Carlisle, I have now read enough on the Internet to follow all you told us. Sorry I was so dense so long. Have more Knowlton men been tested? Are you willing to contact some we know who are terrible procrastinators but might move on it if you gave specific instructions? Thanks for all you have done. Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >It suddenly occurred to me I might have omitted something fun from the short reading list on haplogroups which I recently posted at your request. . . . . . http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/06/thomas-jeffersons-patrilineal-origin.h tml This said, let me quickly emphasize, underscore, and repeat: There is nothing here that suggests any Jeffersonian-Knowlton connection in any time frame that has to do with western patrilineal surnames as we understand and use them today; or used them in 1400-1500 AD. There is a strong scientific basis linking the K2 M70+ haplogroup to Jefferson and the known Knowlton males who share it. But this is in all probability an ancient tribal thing. It could predate the LGM (Last Glacial Maximum) some 18,000 years ago. What is does do is provide a separate, distinct, free-standing example of how these very old, unique characteristics can follow down through the years to be found today in our fathers, sons, brothers, and cousins. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Two years ago, 1/22/03, we had a query from <Maggies@bellsouth.net> asking for help with Edward Knowlton of Penobscot Cty., Me., and his wife Charlotte Stymiest. Edward is Eddy 1 yr, b. Me. (1860 cens.- Eddington, Penobscot, Me.) and Thomas E., 11 yr., b. Me. (1870 census - same town) son of Elias Frank Knowlton, (29 yr. - 1860) and (40 yr. 1870) and Charlotte H. Eddy; brother to Frank Oscar (4 yr, (1860 and 14 yr. 1870). Charlotte married John or James Nichols after the death of Elias Frank Knowlton. Her heritage is listed in "Eddy Family in America" found at several good libraries. Eddy is listed in the 1900 census: from Heritage Quest via NEGHS connection: 1900 census, Maine, Penobscot Cty., 2 WD Brewer, series T623, roll 597, pg. 282, sub. pg. b. , Line, 51, Main St., Dw. 334, Fam. 535, Knowlton Eddy., head, b. Aug. 1859, 41 yr., mar. 14 yr., b. Me.,fa. Me., mo.Me., R.R. Bridge builder, full emply., yes R.W.+ S.Eng., O. M.H., Nellie B., wife, b. 1863, 37 yr., mar 14 yr., 1 ch., 1 lvg., b. me., fa. Me., mo.Me. yes Dorothy, dau., b. Jun 1892, 7 yr. single, b. Me., fa. Me., mo. Me. + Nichols, Charlotte mother, b. Me., fa. Me. mo. Me., yes. ******** Was she able to find the parents of Elias Frank Knowlton, b. abt 1830 in Maine? Marcia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/318.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry to disappoint you, but I've never been in touch with any Knowlton"s. The picture has T. (or I) H. Knowlton, Attleboro, Mass 11 penciled in on the back so that's how I know the man is a Knowlton. I'm hoping someone who is connected to this family will claim the photo. I haven't posted as Shirley suggested back in Dec- Chrismas always takes over all my free time - but I think I will do that now. I don't intend to keep this photo forever, no spare space for non family no matter how much I know there could be someone out there who would appreciate having an ancestor's picture.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/4300/5Mn.2ACEB/321 Message Board Post: I need help figuring out if these two gents are the ones I am looking for or belong to another branch of the Knowlton family. Elroy Knowlton, born April 20, 1882, died July 29, 1937 in Ada, Ada county, Idaho. E. Clark Knowlton, living in East Lincoln, Logan county, IL in 1900. Born May 1855 in Wisconsin, father born Germany , mother Indian. Employed as a plasterer. Wife Annie, born Apr 1856 in IL. Step-children Francis, Leora, and William Barrick. Son Leo, born Apr 1896 in Illinois. (This info comes from the 1900 census listing). Do either Elroy or E. Clark fit into anyone's tree? Does anyone know anything about them? I'm using the process of elimination to see if I can exclude them from further research, because they don't quite fit the facts I know, but neither does anyone else. Thanks, Kari Flodin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/318.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Linda Were you able to reach a Knowlton who identified with the picture? I have been researching Knowlton's for years and some I have not yet found lived in North Attleboro, Ma. If you have been reached a Knowlton in North Attleboro could you share it with me?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Cleveland, Ward, Burke, Scott, Burdick Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/320 Message Board Post: THE DAILY STAR (Oneonta, NY) Monday, November 2, 1998 Cooperstown. Ryle Gilbert Knowlton OXFORD — Ryle Gilbert Knowlton, 63, of Kilroy Road, Oxford died unexpectedly Saturday, Oct. 31, 1998, at York Hospital, York, Pa. He was born May 29, 1935 in Windsor, the son of Raymond and Dora (Cleveland) Knowlton. He was married to Lila L. Ward, June 4, 1955, in Ouaquaga. Mr. Knowlton had been a 29-year resident of Unadilla, until moving to Oxford a year ago. He was a retired employee of Great American Food Stores of Norwich, following 41 years of service, and also was employed for three years at the Oasis Motor Lodge in Oneonta. He also performed volunteer services for the Chenango County Office of the Aging. He was an active member and presently a deacon of the Unadilla Baptist Church. He is survived by his wife, Lila L. Knowlton of Oxford; two sons and daughters-in-law, Michael and Debra Knowlton of Otego and Mark and Deborah Knowlton of Dover, Pa.; a daughter and son-in-law, Sherry and Thomas Burke of Berkshire; two sisters, Flora Scott and Ida Burdick of Sidney; also 13 grandchildren; and several nieces, nephews and cousins. He was predeceased by a brother, Raymond Knowlton. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 4, 1998, at the Unadilla Baptist Church, with the Rev. Paul D. Furniss, pastor, officiating. Burial will be in Evergreen Hill Cemetery, Unadilla. Friends may call at the Westcott Funeral Home, 112 Main St., Unadilla, Tuesday, Nov. 3, 1998, at their convenience. The family will be in attendance Tuesday evening from 7 to 9. Memorial contributions may be made to the Unadilla Batptist Church. Funeral arrangements are by the Westcott Funeral Home, Unadilla. ========== DISCLAIMERS: Not related, no further details. Original obituary may be found at: http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/1998/11/obs1102.html ----------------- I thought it might be helpful to [Ancestry.com] subscribers if I posted obituaries from my local paper's online edition, a project that will take some time. THE DAILY STAR went online on 1 July 1998 and all spelling and grammar is theirs. I'm currently working on [November 1998]. For additional information, please search through Ancestry's other databases.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/318.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Sorry to keep you waiting for a reply. With Christmas, I usually don't get much done after the first week of Dec. other than holiday prep; just now catching up on all the accumulated stuff. I've already passed the items on but I will keep this in mind for the future should I encounter anymore non-family photos and papers. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton/Jacobs/Hanson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/269.1.2 Message Board Post: I hope this helps clarify an old message, and can help my searches. George William Knowlton b. abt 1863 Wasbasha, Minn d. Aug 17, 1893, Eau Claire, Wisconsin (I found an article on his death, there was a buggy accident on his way home from a religious meeting in Eau Claire Wisconsin) The parents of George William Knowlton George Warren Knowlton .b 1832 Mary Ann Golden b.1837 Spouse: Mary Jacobs the parents listed on the marriage record of Mary Jacobs are Christoper Jacobs and Albertine Jacobs date of marriage: July 12th 1884 They had 2 children: Maude Mabel Knowlton b. June 26th 1885 Olive Knowlton b. January 2, 1889 Maude Knowlton married Helmer Hanson, June 1910

I hope readers, old and new, will take the time to read through Marcia's post, even if it is not your line, because she does such meticulous work. You can learn a lot from her. "Not as sharp"! Too much modesty. It is true that she has the New England vital records to use on this line, not available for those in "bad" states like New York; but still, many ignore the good records they have at hand. If it's not on the Internet, ask for a lookup, write a letter, make a phone call, or travel to a library or archives. Happy New Year from your listperson, Elizabeth Message text written by INTERNET:KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com >As genealogy is partially putting bits and pieces together like a puzzle, I take it upon myself to connect one family to another. I do it as carefully as possible, noting all my sources, so that if I have made a mistake, I can "unconnect" properly. Because I am not as "sharp" as I used to be, and some of the active members are of this line, I solicit comments and or corrections on the following connections that I have made. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton