Thank you for this response while I have been struggling with my new computer--still not resolved as I can't get my internet provider on it and I cannot find a cable for the printer [I am typing on the old computer in the living room with a very long phone cord stretched across the entire room--NOT appreciated by my partner]. I hope you posted it to the message board too--it looks as if you did and have said everything and more than I would. I am beginning to wonder why we are so obsessed with old William and the fairy story when even parish records, if found, for him in England would only take us back a couple of generations. If we are SOOOO interested, why has not every man with Knowlton surname and every woman who knows one gotten him to join the DNA project that Carlisle has set up for us????? He is very polite but has told me privately that he has had almost no response. Hmmmmm? There is gobs of American Knowlton genealogy still undone, particularly outside of New England and the west coast. We could all help some of our posters. And, do you know there has not been a Knowlton family reunion in over a 100 years? Are we all so cantankerous and solitary that we cannot ever have another? Elizabeth Knowlton your cantankerous list administrator Message text written by INTERNET:knowlton@rootsweb.com >Message Board Post: I have been reading the queries/posts about Capt. William Knowlton who supposedly is buried in Nova Scotia; I, too, would like to know (referring to info posted by Linda Blevins): What note on William Knowlton are you referring to when you give information about him that I, for one, have never seen before: He left England in the Spring of 1632; they left with no crew [which indicates they were on their own private sailing vessel (?) ]; William died on board ship and his wife Ann Elizabeth Smith was then piloting the ship? Where did all this come from - please do share. I did not find any further responses from you and I am sure we would all love to clear up this mystery. Where oh where did Capt. William go? So then: he was buried on Cape Sable island, not in Shelburne, Shelburne County. Has anyone seen the tombstone of this deceased William; does anyone have a photo? Of course, by now we do know that the hype we first read about as to the parents/ancestry of William has been proven to be incorrect, so we do not know what his ancestry is or who his parents are and his wife was not Ann Elizabeth Smith, just Ann Smith. His son William married an Elizabeth (NOT Balch); considering the botched up Knowlton info we all had to work with in the first place, I imagine the father and son were confused as being one person. No matter how many years pass, we seem to always be hunting for the truth about the Knowltons - and Capt. William continues to baffle us. I pick at it now and then, hoping to find some bit of truth somewhere, but after so many years I am beginning to doubt we will ever know the real story. < Elizabeth W. Knowlton

My husband is also a descendant of Timothy Knowlton and his son Timothy. There is a lot of confused and wrong information about him. Also there was another Timothy, b. 1739, son of Ephraim and Ruth (----), who m. Sarah Merrifield (dau. of Joseph and Hannah (Hill) Merrifield at Wrentham, MA. in 1764. See "The Merrifield Family" by Flora and Charles Merrifield, pub. 1981 and at Salt Lake City Family History Library. We believe our Timothy was from Rowe, MA, where he owned land, and served in the military. He was listed among the taxpayers in 1784 in Rowe (originally known as Myrifield plantation). We have been to Rowe, but found little information on the family. Stocking's book, The Knowlton Genealogy, says Timothy And Sarah Mansfield Had Ebenezer, Joseph, Benjamin, Mary, Rachel, Hannah, Paul, Rhoda, Huldah, Sarah, Ephraim, Aaron, and Timothy. Stocking says Timothy removed from Medway to Rowe before 1770, . His farm there was in a very rugged spot and he left it for Belchertown. There are many errors in Stocking's book, so I don't trust it. I have a lot of info on Timothy's son Benjamin and Benjamin's children. but can't verify any of the earlier generations. I would like to know more about Timothy and wife, and about Benjamin's wives. Marge grannygoose3@mchsi.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Knowlton, Storey >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/338 > >Message Board Post: > >I am still searching for (more) information on my Timothy Knowlton born about 1720 to Timothy Knowlton and Hannah (Storey). He does not appear any place that I have looked over the years (except in those two books by Stocking and Knowlton). Am I the only one descended from this couple? I never see any information about them posted - no one else asking questions. Who did he marry and where? When did they die? Were there other children besides Timothy [also mine], and Ebenezer? Did he leave a will? Where did he really live? Anything?? > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KNOWLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Storey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/338 Message Board Post: I am still searching for (more) information on my Timothy Knowlton born about 1720 to Timothy Knowlton and Hannah (Storey). He does not appear any place that I have looked over the years (except in those two books by Stocking and Knowlton). Am I the only one descended from this couple? I never see any information about them posted - no one else asking questions. Who did he marry and where? When did they die? Were there other children besides Timothy [also mine], and Ebenezer? Did he leave a will? Where did he really live? Anything??

View Record Timothy Knowlton Male Sarah Merryfield 27 Feb 1764 Wrenham Norfork View Record View Record Timothy Knowlton Sarah Merrifield 27 February 1764 Wrentham Norfolk MA View Record Timothy Knowlton Hannah Storey 30 August 1711 Salem Essex MA View Record Knowlton, Aaron Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 30 September 1787 View Record Knowlton, Aaron Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 10 September 1801 View Record Knowlton, Anna Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 11 July 1813 View Record Knowlton, Daniel Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 11 April 1810 View Record Knowlton, Ebenezer Knowlton , Timothy , 1743 View Record Knowlton, Ephraim Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 7 June 1795 View Record Knowlton, Eunice Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 4 December 1796 View Record Knowlton, Horace Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 12 June 1818 View Record Knowlton, Huldah Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 12 July 1783 View Record Knowlton, John Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 11 January 1794 View Record Knowlton, Joseph M Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 12 June 1818 View Record Knowlton, Mary Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 13 December 1799 View Record Knowlton, Mary Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 28 February 1776 View Record Knowlton, Nancy Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 26 March 1798 View Record Knowlton, Paul Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 2 June 1780 View Record Knowlton, Polly Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 27 April 1803 View Record Knowlton, Rhoda Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 3 March 1782 View Record Knowlton, Rhoda Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 27 April 1807 View Record Knowlton, Sarah Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 29 January 1812 View Record Knowlton, Sarah Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 2 February 1817 View Record Knowlton, Silas Knowlton , Timothy Storey , Hannah 1712 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , John Edwards , Bethia 1687 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , John Sarah , 1687 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , Timothy Storey , Hannah 1720 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Sarah , Storey , Hannah 1720 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , Timothy , 1745 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , Timothy , 1745 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , Timothy Mansfield , Sarah 7 January 1768 View Record Knowlton, Timothy Knowlton , Timothy Rice , Eunice 23 May 1792 View Record Knowlton, William Rice Knowlton , Timothy Baxter , Sarah 8 March 1815 Timothy Knowlton Male Hannah Tarr 30 Nov 1824 Gloucester Essex ----- Original Message ----- From: <grannygoose3@mchsi.com> To: <KNOWLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: [KNOWLTON] Timothy Knowlton who md. Martha Shippe > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Knowlton, Shippe, Merrifield, Mansfield > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/336 > > Message Board Post: > > Where on the Knowlton tree does Timothy belong who md. Martha Shippe? I am (again) going over my early research, trying to straighten out those Timothys found in the two Knowlton books; I have 3 of them as ancestors and keep hoping to find some documentation to back them up. I have notes made from long ago research in SLC that a Timothy Knowlton md. Martha Shippe on 13 and 14 August 1760 in Rhode Island. My Timothy K. and wife Sarah Merrifield ( I found none md to a Sarah Mansfield) lived in RI only because the part of Mass they were living in was annexed to RI in 1747 after the boundary dispute was settled. I still have a Timothy without a wife, the one born in 1720, although I had at one time thought she may be another Sarah (---). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KNOWLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Merrifield, Butler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/337 Message Board Post: Every time I go back over my old Knowlton research, I post this query, hoping someone can tell me: Who is "Harry Butler, grand child to Timothy Knolton died June 20, 1815" ? He died on the same day as "Mr. Timothy Knolton died June 20 1815" (Rowe, MA VRs, Corbin Collection). Maybe if someone knows who Harry was and how he died, it could tell me how my Timothy Knowlton died, (husband of Sarah Merryfield who died 1826 ) .

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Shippe, Merrifield, Mansfield Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/336 Message Board Post: Where on the Knowlton tree does Timothy belong who md. Martha Shippe? I am (again) going over my early research, trying to straighten out those Timothys found in the two Knowlton books; I have 3 of them as ancestors and keep hoping to find some documentation to back them up. I have notes made from long ago research in SLC that a Timothy Knowlton md. Martha Shippe on 13 and 14 August 1760 in Rhode Island. My Timothy K. and wife Sarah Merrifield ( I found none md to a Sarah Mansfield) lived in RI only because the part of Mass they were living in was annexed to RI in 1747 after the boundary dispute was settled. I still have a Timothy without a wife, the one born in 1720, although I had at one time thought she may be another Sarah (---).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/26.73.74.75.83.84.85.86.89.92.93.94.104.105.108.109.110.111.166 Message Board Post: I have been reading the queries/posts about Capt. William Knowlton who supposedly is buried in Nova Scotia; I, too, would like to know (referring to info posted by Linda Blevins): What note on William Knowlton are you referring to when you give information about him that I, for one, have never seen before: He left England in the Spring of 1632; they left with no crew [which indicates they were on their own private sailing vessel (?) ]; William died on board ship and his wife Ann Elizabeth Smith was then piloting the ship? Where did all this come from - please do share. I did not find any further responses from you and I am sure we would all love to clear up this mystery. Where oh where did Capt. William go? So then: he was buried on Cape Sable island, not in Shelburne, Shelburne County. Has anyone seen the tombstone of this deceased William; does anyone have a photo? Of course, by now we do know that the hype we first read about as to the parents/ancestry of William has been proven to be incorrect, so we do not know what his ancestry is or who his parents are and his wife was not Ann Elizabeth Smith, just Ann Smith. His son William married an Elizabeth (NOT Balch); considering the botched up Knowlton info we all had to work with in the first place, I imagine the father and son were confused as being one person. No matter how many years pass, we seem to always be hunting for the truth about the Knowltons - and Capt. William continues to baffle us. I pick at it now and then, hoping to find some bit of truth somewhere, but after so many years I am beginning to doubt we will ever know the real story.

To check your email from any PC, get online and go to www.mail2web.com Log in with your email address and password, and you can review all the mail on your email provider's server. I use it to delete spam and respond to time-sensitive messages while I'm away from home. Just remember that if you want to keep a particular email, you need to leave it on the server and download it when you're back on your primary PC. If any of this isn't clear, please contact me for further info. Regards, WDC Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: > Rootsweb is making some changes right now to > the format of all the lists. I don't think this will bother > any of you. > > However, this is happening right at the moment > when my computer is very unstable and I am waiting > for a new one to arrive with all the attendant problems. > I have never learned how to pick up email from > another location so I may be unreachable for a little > while. > > If something goofy happens to or on the list, > and I don't seem to be around, just be patient. > I will return. > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KNOWLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Bill Carr, Town of Malta, Saratoga County, NY "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin "Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in few hands and the republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln as quoted by Molly Ivins Lossing's Field Books of the Revolution and War of 1812; http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/ List Administrator for RootsWeb's DUSTIN mailing list. Coordinator for Haddam, Middlesex County, Connecticut page; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/

Rootsweb is making some changes right now to the format of all the lists. I don't think this will bother any of you. However, this is happening right at the moment when my computer is very unstable and I am waiting for a new one to arrive with all the attendant problems. I have never learned how to pick up email from another location so I may be unreachable for a little while. If something goofy happens to or on the list, and I don't seem to be around, just be patient. I will return. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

At 06:08 PM 8/31/2006, Elizabeth W. Knowlton wrote: >Rootsweb is making some changes right now to >the format of all the lists. I don't think this will bother >any of you. > >However, this is happening right at the moment >when my computer is very unstable and I am waiting >for a new one to arrive with all the attendant problems. >I have never learned how to pick up email from >another location so I may be unreachable for a little >while. > >If something goofy happens to or on the list, >and I don't seem to be around, just be patient. >I will return. > >Elizabeth W. Knowlton Hi, Elizabeth and list: I am the list admin of 18 RootsWeb lists. If you can't seem to reach Elizabeth, you can try me privately. Obviously, I can't change any list settings, such as subscriber information, for this list; and I will not presume to speak with authority, because I don't have any here [grin]. But I may be able to help you through something. Darrell Darrell A. Martin darrellm@sprynet.com a native Vermonter currently in exile in Illinois http://www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

Hi, Gang: Have got my Family Tree DNA package with password and can't make hide nor hair of what it's all about. Just know I'm in the R1B "Haplogroup," the "most common Haplogroup in European populations It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago." Guess I'm eligible for the Sons Of the Ice Age. It lists "counts" of Canada (2), England (9) including one of Anglo Celt, Ireland (18), Germany (6), United Kingdom (8), Scotland (8), Netherlands (3), Norway (3), Iceland (2). The rest have one each: Greece, Macedonia, Greenland (Inuit: European Mixture), Syria (Arab!!), Spain (Basque), Spain (Andalusia), Spain, Shetland. Russia (!!), and Polynesia (European Mixture). BILL KNOWLTON < _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/trial.aspx?sc_cid=msn_hotmail

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5Mn.2ACEB/335 Message Board Post: Desperate for any information concerning Vera Blanche Knowlton (b. Abt. 1903) in AR, Married Grandvil Leroy Hovis 1902 in AR. Parents of: Chester Eugene Hovis and Viola (Hovis) Bassoni. C. Eugene Hovis died in CA and Viola's last known address was Santa Anna, CA. Grandvil and Blanche divorced and she supposedly took the children and moved to Oklahoma, where she remarried to a man named Daniel Duke. Grandville remarried and had 7 more children. These two children from his first marriage are my aunt and uncle. Any info appreciated

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/5Mn.2ACEB/61.78.122 Message Board Post: I have traced my family back as far as my Great x4 Grandmother Catherine Knowlton (b 1730 d 1813) in Bramshaw, Hampshire, England. She was married to John Dibden (b 1720 d 1780) on 9/23/1750. They had 10 children: John b 1750, Joseph b 1753, Sarah b 1755, David b 1759, Hannah b 1762, William b 1764, Ann b 1766, Moses b 1769, Thomas b 1770 and James b 1772. Does anybody else have a connection to any of these people? Would love to go back further if possible! My email addy is kkemp2@twcny.rr.com. Thanks so much! Kim Kemp

Cathy, In this email, I will list the bare bones of your Knowlton pedigree and will mail you more details. This information is from THE HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE KNOWLTONS OF ENGLAND AND AMERICA by Charles Henry Wright Stocking, Knickerbocker Press, 1897. It was so full of errors that a few years later an ERRATA AND ADDENDA was published by George Knowlton. However, our list members are still coming up with documents to correct both these books. I will start with Arie/Ayera and work backwards. The numbers in ( ) are the numbers assigned to the persons in Stocking's HISTORY. Arie or Ayera Knowlton b 1874 Coffey Co, KS (1652) Atwood Jackson Knowlton b ca 1828 Nobleboro, Lincoln Co, ME (615) Joseph Knowlton b ca 1792 in ME married Susan Redlaw or Ridlow (231C) Andrew Knowlton b 1750 in MA, perhaps Beverly. Married Ruth Ridlow or Redlaw. He was a soldier in Revolutionary War. (121) Samuel Knowlton b Ipswich, MA 1726 married Anna Fellows. He moved up to Maine around 1776 with most of his family. (74) Nathaniel Knowlton b 1683 in Ipswich, MA. Married 1) Mary Bennett 1703 2) Mrs. Reform Trescott Jewett, a widow, bef 1719. Reform was the mother of Samuel. (19) Nathaniel Knowlton b 1658/9 in Ipswich, MA. Married Deborah Jewett 1682. Nathaniel was the half brother of my ancestor Ephraim Knowlton, b 1676 (24A). (5) John Knowlton, b 1633 in Ipswich, MA. Married 1) Deborah [Grant?] (2) John Knowlton, b 1610 in England Married Marjery or Marjory Wilson (1) William Knowlton who was supposedly married to Ann Elizabeth Smith and died on the way to America. This last bit is mostly hearsay handed down through generations with no real proof. WHATEVER YOU READ ON THE WEB AND ELSEWHERE ABOUT ANYTHING FURTHER BACK IS NOT PROVEN AND QUITE OBVIOUSLY WRONG. These people were yeoman farmers, not any kind of gentry, and did not leave many records. They worked as shoemakers and the like in Massachusetts. Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Cathy, I have solved your problem with Harry and will send this email to you plus post it to the Knowlton listserve rather than go back on line to write on the message board. Why don't you join the Knowlton mailing list since you have a direct line from your mother back to the original immigrants to America in 1630s? OK, there is a lot of detail, and I will mail you documents if you give me a mailing address. Basically, Harry's name was not Harry but something I have not yet figured out, like Azeria or Ayeria as I cannot read it clearly on the censuses. If you follow my advice on the Knowlton bulletin board yesterday you will write for his death certificate and find out what they used; ditto his marriage. I think he changed his name to Harry to make things easier for himself. Where did you get the "Arie" from? He WAS born in Kansas, probably in 1874; but he died before the 1920 census, which is why we could not find him. He must have died some time between Nov 1915 when Harry Leon was conceived and May 1918 when Pearl's first child with Thomas Stephens was conceived. Since I imagine she married Thomas first and waited at least a few months before the remarrying, I would guess that Harry died about 1917. I would ask for a search of 1916 and 1917 with first name not certain, last name Knowlton. He would have been about 43 when he died in Osage co. Because of bad handwriting and poor indexing, it was very hard to spot the Stephens family in 1920; however, they were on the same page with that Vermillion family who appears near them in 1930. The stepkids' last name is spelled Knolton [there are many common misspellings for this name]. Apparently Opal has died. I found the family by searching on first name Vivian. Place of father's birth is mistakenly listed as Missouri, which was where Mr. Stephens was born. 1910 you have 1900 I spotted Azera J. ? Knowlton in the William Farmer household in Kansas, Coffey Co., Ottumwa, where it turned out the Knowltons had been for over 40 yrs. They don't really like moving around that much; so even when they migrate across the country, they stay put once they are there. You had said he had a stepfather, so this looked like the right person, born in Kansas with mother born in Iowa and father in Mass. or Maine (which people mix up all the time). He was born in July 1876, it says. However, he is grown up, and I think the year is just off-- the census is usually more accurate for children's ages. Now we know his mother's name was Nancy. 1880 This was the last census I found-- went back to 1850 easier than this because the surname was spelled Knowelton, and I could not search on his name--since I still don't know it--and at that time did not know his father's name. I think I found it through searching for Nancys born in Iowa who lived in Coffey co. He has a sister named Henrietta, and his father is A. J. It says Ayera is 5 in June, which means he wold be 6 in July, born 1874. 1870 Still the same place. Luckily AJ and Nancy got married before this census. It says his name is Atwood Knowlton, born Maine, and what looks like age 21, but it is actually 41 if you look closely. So now I had a first name, middle initial, age, and birthplace for sure. 1860 AJ is already in Coffey co, aged 30, and listed as a ship's carpenter, which seems strange. I have not looked at a map yet, but you need to do this for each county where people live--it explains many things. He is living with two Ohioans named Travis or Tavis. 1850 The ship's carpenter bit proved useful when I searched Maine for Atwood J. He was listed as 22, a ship's carpenter, living in the household of Susan and Joseph Knowlton in Nobleboro, Lincoln Co., ME, has a brother named something like Adoniram, sisters named Mary and Augusta, and lives near other Knowltons including a Joseph Jr, who is probably another brother. It was now time to turn to THE HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE KNOWLTONS by Stocking, since I could not spot Joseph and Susan for sure on the Internet. But this will be a second email tomorrow as it is late, I just got home, and have to go to work in the morning. I WILL continue the saga tomorrow. Elizabeth Elizabeth W. Knowlton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KNOWLTON, PIERCE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/334.1 Message Board Post: Cathy, I have spent considerable time on your problem; finally I googled Pearl and picked up many of your messages on other boards over the last year. Last February you said his name was Harry J, nick- named "Arie." Is it J or L? I repeated your census research and found Pearl and her second husband (from your post on the Osage co, OK board) Thos Stephens living in Big Hill. Halfway up that census page you see Clarence Reynolds m to Bessie B. listed with his sister in law, Vivian C. Knowlton. You had neglected to tell us about Pearl's remarriage in your Knowlton post. Two pages earlier are John F Simmons with Gladys, nee Knowlton. What happened to Harry Leon, the little boy? But where is the family in 1920? The Simmons family, Frank Sr with his children, including J. Frank, are in Strike Axe, Osage co. But where are the Knowltons? Because that name is often misspelled, I searched the census looking for Pearl, Opal, Harry, Henry, etc., without success so far. I did locate the family in Big Hill in 1910. Perhaps you should look at every page of Big Hill in 1920. Have you collected your vital records? Check cyndislist.com for information on how to order Oklahoma death, marriage, and birth certificates and when each record began. For sure you should be able to get an OK marriage record for Harry and Pearl since she was already living in Oklahoma when she married. If Harry's father really was from Maine, the family may have been part French-Canadian, explaining the French accent. Most Knowltons are descended from the same people who came to Ipswich, MA, in the 1630s, but there are exceptions. I located Pearl Peirce with her parents, George and Caroline, on the Kay Co., OK, census in Longwood, as you said in your February post to Osage co board. In my entire search I found only one Harry Knowlton who was born in July 1874, and he was born in California, living in San Francisco in 1880 and 1900. His father Joseph, was born in Maine, was a stage agent, and, had died by 1900. His mother, Lizzie Doolittle, then lived in her father's household; he was a hotel proprietor It would be highly unusual for an urban person in California to migrate back to the midwest to become a farmer ca 1905. When did Oklahoma open up to white settlers? I am happy to go on working on this with you, but you need to order your vital records as a next step.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton,Pierce,Simmons Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/334 Message Board Post: I am searching for any information on Harry Knowlton born July 28,1874 in Kansas and d:30th Jan 1921 .He is buried at the Hominy cemetery in Hominy,Osage Co.,Ok. He was French and spoke with a distinct accent.He married Pearl M.Pierce b:Feb.28,1889 in Kansas also,d;21st Sep 1974 .They were married abt 1905.His parents i know nothing about except that his Father was born in Maine and his Mother was born in Iowa.They were listed on the 1910 census living in Bighill Twp as of May 27,1910 they had been married 4 years.They had 2 daughter's at this time Bessie B.Knowlton 3 years old b:7-9-1906 d:2-27-? spouse:Clarence Earnest Reynolds.Second daughter, Gladys Elizabeth Knowlton 2 years old b:1-8-1908 d:10-08-1932 spouse:John Franklin Simmons b:9-30-1906 Hominy,Osage Co.,Ok.They were married 03 Nov 1928 in Pawhuska,Osage Co.,Ok.Gladys died giving birth to first and only child Allene Simmons Oct o8,1932.By 1911 they had another daughter Vivian C. Knowlton b:Jan 18,1911 d:19 Jan 1990! .Opal Irene Knowlton b:16 Jan 1913 Hominy,Osage Co.,Ok.,Lena Mae KnowltonZ(my Mother)b:28th Jun 1914,Hominy,Osage Co.,Ok.d:09 Dec 2002 in Pueblo,Colo.spouse:John Franklin Simmons b:Sep 30,1906 d:Aug 22,1958 married 29,Nov,1937 and last child Harry Leon Knowlton b:15 Aug 1916.Harry Senior died young at the age of 37.I have a picture of him.If anyone knows any information about Harry Knowlton's parents,siblings or any information yhat might be of interest PLEASE!!!!e-mail me at cblue777moon@yahoo.com....Thank You!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knowlton/Bogue Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/279.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I would love to have any information that you might possibly have. Jannette M. Knowlton and her husband Francis Philander Bogue are both buried at Fairview Cemetery, Fountain Township, Ottawa, Kansas. The stones read Bogue , Francis *** age 69 yr to 07/07/07 Bogue , Jannette *** 1842 to 1922

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Schindler, Streiff,Knipschild, Taylor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5Mn.2ACEB/333 Message Board Post: Am looking for Elizabeth's husband. Do not have first name. They lived in Green County, Monroe, Wisconsin, in 1850's. There were also two sons, Albert and Edward about whom I know absolutely nothing. They may have died at birth or moved to another state. Any ideas, suggestions, information, would be appreciated.