Hi Alan, Rob and Folks, this then is what I know about the above named, my Grandmother. I have a photo of her at about 17 wearing an army uniform! Slim and attractive, and I believe had reddish gold hair. Later very stout! She was a wonderful person for me, good without being goody goody, a lot of fun, loved to sing, would enjoy a dirty joke, extremely kind and generous, intelligent and interested, empathic, capable of losing her temper, very grounded, and a rock in her family. My Grandad was a nice chap too! Elizabeth Monks, nee Knibb. Full name, I believe, was Florence Mabel Sarah Elizabeth Mary Knibb! Born Methodist 21st April 1900. baptised 15 May Walsall Wood Church. Was one of a large family, Father George Knibb, a miner, who died when she was 3yrs old, the result of breaking his leg in the mine. Mother Elizabeth Golding. Brother Ted, sister Annie. another younger brother John, who she lost touch with before WW1, and we think emigrated somewhere. EG remarried and had 13 children overall, died 1913, when betty moved to Leigh. George Knibb's father, I think his father was named John, and was a carter. Married 1/4/1888 aged 21 so probably born c 1867/5. I don't suppose I would have to trace this limb far without linking with a known branch, but this may be of interest, and may connect now! I've wondered if she descends from the 18th C minister. Best wishes, Tony Mitchell. ------ End of Forwarded Message