Alan, I have some new dates that I'm sure will be of interest to you. I have been contacted by a lady named Diane Sharland who is descended from William KNIBBS, b. 1846 at Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England. Diane is the great-granddaughter of William, the granddaughter of his daughter Sarah Ann KNIBBS. The following is what Diane has given me. It was her mother Elsie Longworth who was interested in the family history, and when she died, Diane came across lots of certificates and hand written notes with family dates. She has told me these dates and I've added it all into my data. Significant finds are: - the birth date of William at the top - we only had his baptism date. - the fact that his wife may have been Ellen and not Helen - I need to check that out with Diane - Ellen's birth and death dates - dates of death of William and Ellen's daughters Sarah and Leah - details relevant to Sarah and Leah's husbands I've recorded further down the line which I know will not be of direct interest to the K/NIBB/S purists! Diane gave me the following information about Sarah Ann KNIBBS' husband Alfred LONGHURST: "Alfred Longworth was born on 2 December 1877 at 16 Culvert Street Manchester and died 13 April 1966.Although he died in hospital he was at the time living at 27 Oxford Street Woodstock, where he used to have a bicycle shop. He also had petrol pumps at that address and a garage at 21 Oxford Street. Previous to that he was a motor engineer and owned a Charabanc. Before that he worked on the Blenhein Palace Estate as a Water Engineer." Don Descendants of William Knibbs 1 William Knibbs b: January 10, 1846 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England Baptism: March 1, 1846 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: Bef. June 21, 1905 Burial: June 21, 1905 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England - +Ellen Drinkwater b: August 20, 1852 in Wootton, Oxfordshire, England m: August 16, 1879 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: February 15, 1934 2 Sarah Ann Knibbs b: September 11, 1879 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England Baptism: December 7, 1879 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: June 16, 1962 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England --- +Alfred Longworth b: December 2, 1877 in Manchester, Lancashire, England m: December 25, 1901 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: April 13, 1966 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England --- 3 Elsie Maud Longworth b: May 9, 1905 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England Baptism: June 11, 1904 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: January 23, 1984 ------ +John Henry Holley b: October 1, 1906 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England m: April 29, 1937 d: December 14, 1975 ------ 4 Diane Shirley Holley b: May 28, 1943 --------- +Anthony John Sharland b: in Somerset, England m: September 26, 1964 --- 3 Irene Dorothy Longworth b: September 5, 1916 ------ +Frederick George Austin Twamley b: September 28, 1918 in Liverpool, Merseyside, England m: December 3, 1955 2 Leah Florence Knibbs b: February 3, 1885 in Woodstock District, Oxfordshire, England Baptism: April 5, 1885 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: September 24, 1974 --- +William John Bolton b: June 6, 1880 m: August 19, 1909 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England d: October 8, 1964 --- 3 Violet Ethel Bolton b: February 10, 1911 d: January 28, 1986 ------ +John Edward Turner b: in Hawick, Northumberland, England