Alan, It would seem that the Thomas convicted in 1835 must be a different one. Had it been Thomas who arrived on the Mary in 1830 the details of a second offence in Tasmania would have been recorded on the original convict record as were the other minor offences. I certainly can't find a death for him in Tasmania though. Of course it is not unknown for convicts to change their names to cover their past so it doesn't mean he didn't die here. There was only one convict named Thomas Knibbs transported to Tasmania being the one who arrived on the Mary. In an earlier message you mentioned: "I do have a record of a Thomas KNIBBS bc1798, ploughman from Oxfordshire, who was transported for seven years having been sentenced on 29 July 1824 and who died at Parramatta NSW in 1856." Perhaps you were right with this one being the one who died in 1856. It would seem likely that the Thomas convicted in 1824 may have been the one who arrived in New South Wales in 1825 who I mentioned in an earlier message: "He received a certificate of freedom on 3 Aug 1831. He arrived in NSW on the Royal Charlotte in 1825. I found this on the Index to Certificates of Freedom on the State Records of New South Wales site at http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/convicts/convictrecords.htm You may like to also look at guides to their convict records at http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/aibs/002/page01.htm" Cheers, David -----Original Message----- From: Jackari2@aol.com [mailto:Jackari2@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2004 7:45 AM To: KNIBB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [K/NIBB/S] Thomas NIBBS Transported 14 years 1829 David I just have as my source, Stuart KNIBBS, but that might only indicate that he found a Thomas NIBBS death at Paramatta NSW and that I've conjectured it's him, perhaps because of his age which might also have been given. It would be good to verify, particularly as I had from somewhere this description which differs in some respects to the one you have given. Description: Ht 5' 9 1/2" Complexion: Sallow Hair: Brown Eyes: Blue I'm not at all sure from where this comes, though I had assumed from his convict record on a conviction for another term of seven years in 1835. Unless on promtion to Constable. Does this make any sense? The difference did set me thinking whether there might not be two Thomases who fell foul of the law. bfn Alan > I notice in information you have each posted that Thomas Nibbs died at > Parramatta, NSW in 1856. Having found the convict record for Thomas I > am keen to see what else I might be able to uncover. How did you > connect the 1856 death as being this Thomas and does the information > recorded for his death give any other information that might help > trace what happened between gaining his certificate of freedom and his > death? > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237