........I've held back a couple because the families would not welcome further publicity. I don't want to fall out with anyone, nor create 'bad blood' between me and them. I've certainly heard the expression in that sort of context here in the UK, Beverly, not that I've used it myself until now. The Port Pirie Recorder, South Australia reports... ... The team will be Shannan Kelly, Fiona Aldridge, Rachel Stevens, Maree Wauchope, Nadine Knibbs, Phillipa Woolford, Liz Brown and Teressa Balmer. I only have one Nadine within the K/NIBB/S database and she's in Minneapolis, America. So can anyone place this Nadine sportswoman? Ritchie mentioned that Ancestry.com has Historical Newspapers, 1786-2002 representing an assortment of U.S. newspapers. The surname KNIBBS alone produced 304 references in various newspapers. Anytime a paid up member wishes to trawl through a few, we'd love to receive anything genealogical. Indeed 'The Times' archive revealed a number of useful items which I've added to the database for future reference. Probably more to find if it's still up and running. Thanx go to Don for telling us about the free access. This happened while we were all in Barcelona - what a wonderful city it is. Highly recommended. Robin has updated to AOL v9. Has anyone else tried it? I ditched v8 as like others I found it so so slow but as my Personal Filing Cabinet on v7 is now full, it would be a good time to switch if the speed problems have been sorted out - I hate deleting correspondence and haven't found a way of preserving elsewhere on my computer, other than by upgading versions of AOL and keeping the old ones in reserve. Finally, going back in time once again, I've received the copy articles from Alan CLARKE's Northamptonshire archives which I think Bob KNIBBS drew to our attention. They are : KNIBBS JOSEPH NORTHAMPTON NORTHAMPTONSHIRE LENT ASSIZES KNIBBS RICHARD WARKWORTH NORTHAMPTON COUNTY SESSIONS The first turns out to be Rose-Marie's Joseph KNIBB. He and a partner were swindled on a Bill of Exchange, so no bad issues there. I haven't 'placed' Richard but he only named as acting criminally within a group of others. So as yet nobody can claim that they are not 'tarred with his brush' with the law! bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc