Peter I have made one or two alterations to the database given the information you kindly posted. It has helped me sort out one family that I hadn't merged and another which I''d wrongly attributed. I'm even wondering if John KNIBB (1781-1821?) who married Sarah ATKINS (see Sarah 62?) isn't the same person as John KNIBBS bp 1786, son of Richard KNIBB and Mary ARCH. His sister Elizabeth was baptised on the same day but I don't think they were twins because of the gap in the family births between 1779 and 1786. Is anyone else, looking at this area and era? bfn Alan Alan Jackson Host at The K/NIBB/S One Name Study & Mailing List Website address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~knibbetc